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IMO #5 was one of those that saw coming to DC the place to get his pension.He thought wrong

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[quote=Bigreds77;775211]IMO #5 was one of those that saw coming to DC the place to get his pension.He thought wrong[/quote]

I think you're totally wrong. McNabb was traded here. He didn't come via free agency. Big difference.

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We'll see what happens but I hope they don't gas up Redskins One and start chasing/ signing free agents. This team is not a couple players away. It's a couple of drafts and a few free agents away, which to me is about a 3 year process. I'm willing to wait as long as they start doing things the right way, which may mean losing more games next year.

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Given how deep the FA pool is bound to be, it would dumb to not make some moves. You just have to make smart moves that are a good fit.

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[quote=SBXVII;775047]I think it all depends on which Shanahan your talking about and what your expectations were?

When Mike Shanahan was hired everyone "assumed" he would install his running game and this team would be back in the play offs. Instead I personally think Mike realized he does not have the personel to run his "running scheme" and relied more on his son and the passing attack he brings to the table. Remember our OL is not good and he most likely realized it figuring they wouldn't create too many holes for the RB's. He had to have known by preseasons end.

So if your evaluating MS based on how well the team performed then no MS didn't "seem" to have done a good job, but he was not dealt a good hand either. I actually commend MS for the way he handled the players. We needed a tough HC to come in and not take any crap from the owner, or the prima dona players with their lazy attitudes and expectation of playing time. As long as all the players are treated equally then no one can complain. Haynesworth didn't want to participate from the beginning, it showed, and when he did show he thought he could either bully his way into playing the position he wanted to play only or become a problem. He got his wish... he was the problem. I'm not saying he's not a good player just saying sometimes players need to do whats asked of them. Thats what a "team player" is all about.

McNabb's benching I also don't have a problem with. If you take a moment and think back although McNabb was "better" then Campbell, he seemed to have his issues also. The very issue's for which I was against picking up McNabb and voiced those issues when the team did pick him up. Heck in Sept I had a co worker to is an Eagles fan telling the same issues and was glad the Eagles had gotten rid of McNabb.

It's pretty bad when you a fan and want the team to dump your HOF/ starting QB for an unknown but that also should have been a red flag to our organization. McNabb was slow into and out of the huddle, took too much time looking over the defense giving the defense time to adjust to the formation, either over threw players or threw dirt balls, and lastly is not a 2 min drill type of QB. He's definitly awesome with 4-5 min. left on the clock for a come back but leave him with 2 min. or less and he's just too slow and methodical.[/quote]

I have no problem with the benching so much the way it was handled. If I was a player I would have a hard time respecting somebody who would let me find out I was demoted in the newspaper instead of talking to me first.

I never really followed Shanahan's career, but this was a tumultuous first season and at times I felt that the ship was rudderless. I agree with you that he realized that we didn't have the personnel to run his scheme, but I have to question his vetting process in trading for McNabb and giving up two picks in this years draft. I hope that in the offseason he will be able to reevaluate the talent we have and somehow remove the defeatist mentality I feel the team has.

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[quote=SmootSmack;775139]I had mentioned a few weeks back that Rogers and the Redskins were close to a new deal....well they're no closer now. In fact they may have slipped a bit further apart[/quote]

What made it go from close to a new deal... to slipped further apart?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;775232]I have no problem with the benching so much the way it was handled. If I was a player I would have a hard time respecting somebody who would let me find out I was demoted in the newspaper instead of talking to me first.

I never really followed Shanahan's career, but this was a tumultuous first season and at times I felt that the ship was rudderless. I agree with you that he realized that we didn't have the personnel to run his scheme, but I have to question his vetting process in trading for McNabb and giving up two picks in this years draft. I hope that in the offseason he will be able to reevaluate the talent we have and somehow remove the defeatist mentality I feel the team has.[/quote]
Well here's the deal, IF it is true Shanahan really didn't tell McNabb until late in the week, then indeed was unprofessional. BUT, McNabb could be just stirring up stuff by making this stuff up for whatever reason (make people feel sorry for him?).

I'm not saying that McNabb actually did so, but it is a possibility. Either way, there's no way for us fans to really know what's going on here. Both of them have strained my trust, although other of course will have their own reactions.

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[quote=SkinzWin;775234]What made it go from close to a new deal... to slipped further apart?[/quote]

No idea

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I just hope that if we get new FA's - that they that are less than 28 years old.

We KNOW we are not going to win a superbowl in the next 2 years. We're rebuilding. Let's get young players that are going to stick around for 5-7 years. There's no point in getting a 29-30 year old free agent, because by the time we get better as a team they're going to be too old.

For example, D.Hall was a perfect example - because he could be here for years.

[QUOTE=Nomad;774852]Only 3 guys I want.... Vick, M. Floyd, Randy Moss! S.moss go to slot we add some solid linemen to the draft..... and I would literly move from where Im at to the D.C. metro area![/QUOTE]

Your joking with this right. Although they all fit the perfect Vinny Cerrato/Dan Snyder formula of the past. Big Names, Old, Vick is coming off a monster year so he'll ask for a ridiculously high contract knowing he won't touch those numbers next year and he'll probably get injured. Moss would come here and be AH all over again and give it 25 % effort and take the money and run.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Shane Lechler become available.. P from OAK most recently, one of the best punters available, spoke out about Cable firing, they hired a new P

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[quote=tryfuhl;775572]I wouldn't be surprised to see Shane Lechler become available.. P from OAK most recently, one of the best punters available, spoke out about Cable firing, they hired a new P[/quote]

That would be bad az. Lechler is very good. Probably get into a bit of a bidding war though. We aren't the only ones who needs a punter.

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[quote=tryfuhl;775572]I wouldn't be surprised to see Shane Lechler become available.. P from OAK most recently, one of the best punters available, spoke out about Cable firing, they hired a new P[/quote]

I'd be quite happy if we picked up Lechler, a current resident in Undead Al's doghouse.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-freeagents111810]Top 30 free agents in class of 2011 - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;776263][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-freeagents111810]Top 30 free agents in class of 2011 - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

Here's the guys we seem to have the best chance of at least meeting with.


7. LB Barrett Ruud(notes) – Ruud was miffed in training camp when Tampa Bay extended LT Donald Penn(notes) before they extended him. Sorry, Barrett, but that’s the reality of left tackles and inside linebackers. Ruud is very good and still young, but he would be best served re-signing with a team that knows his limitations.


8. G Davin Joseph(notes) – He’s a very good guard, but a notch below Logan Mankins. He’s the type of player who gets paid because of scarcity, not necessarily talent. On the open market, he’ll do very well, perhaps as much as $8 million a year.



1. LB LaMarr Woodley(notes) – Critics say he’s not great against the run or in coverage. But when you’re projected to average more than 10 sacks in three straight seasons, you get paid. That’s the bottom line.

From Footballs Future:

Jammal Brown (WAS) – With rookie Trent Williams playing the left side, Jammal Brown has started on the right side for the first time in his pro career. He struggled early in the season as he recovered from injury, but has since turned around his play. He’s a far cry from where he was in his prime, but the Redskins have had success running the ball behind him. The organization hasn’t shied away from spending money on players, but they could get a bargain in Brown, if he continues his upward ascension from injury.