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Great detail and grueling pictures in this article.


[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176377/The-Dark-Knight-Rises-theater-shooting--James-Holmes-looked-like-said-JOKER.html?ICO=most_read_module]The Dark Knight Rises theater shooting: James Holmes looked like and said he was the JOKER | Mail Online[/url]



Like I said in my previous post. His intention was to cause a distraction at his apartment with a radio on a timer that blasted loud music. The neighbors were to complain, call police, open door and set off bombs causing the distraction. This distraction would have allowed him to continue shooting more people, as well as killed whoever opened that door.

[url=http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/did-aurora-co-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-try-luring-someone-into-apartment]Did Aurora, CO shooting suspect James Holmes try luring someone into apartment?[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;925735]Im completely with you in that im glad he was taken alive. He'll suffer more pain then to have been shot dead on site and he hopefully will allow for some closure to the families.

But i cant help but think he surrendered and that he wanted to be taken alive. The dude had on a bullet proof vest, helmet, neck armor and a cup (something for guys). Apparently he didnt put up a fight or anything. The dude isnt in the hospital, hes in jail. He also apparently told police about the bombs in his apartment.

Youre a budding psychologist right? Whats your gut about this guy being taken alive? Do you think he felt remorse and surrendered and made an effort to prevent more damage? Or do you think hes wanted to be taken alive so his deranged message can be heard?[/quote]

Considering all the preparation he took and the fact he had so much body armor, he definitely wanted to be taken alive. I would think that an act done with so much preparation, senselessly but in a specific area was meant to send a message of some sort. Probably some crazy convoluted one as this guy seemed to think he was The Joker but he was making a point of some sort. Apparently he was just spraying bullets, it wasn't like Columbine (where the shooters had a vendetta and although they WERE spraying bullets, they also went after specific kids), here everyone had a chance of being a target.

I mean... Overall, to me, it sounds just from what I've pieced together, it sounds like the dude had some weird fantasy of being a movie villain and The Joker is known for taking innocents as part of his plots.

Again, I dunno much and its all speculation.

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[quote=SmootSmack;925523]I didn't know Jessica personally, but I know she was someone trying to break into the sports media industry, having done some NHL related stuff.

Anyhow, how crazy that she was also at the Eaton Center shooting. RIP

[url=http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/late-night-thoughts-on-the-eaton-center-shooting/]Late Night Thoughts on the Eaton Center Shooting « A Run On of Thoughts[/url][/quote]


Wanted to share this article about her from USA Today. They also have a incredible interview with her brother. This guy is a rock to say the least. Not even sure how he performed that live staying so calm.


[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/story/2012-07-20/jessica-redfield-ghawi-sports-journalist/56369600/1]NHL writer, Aurora victim Jessica Redfield escaped Toronto shooting – USATODAY.com[/url]



Thoughts go out to these families. I extend those thoughts out to the shooter's family as you know they are just as devastated knowing their child did this.


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[quote=DynamiteRave;925741]Considering all the preparation he took and the fact he had so much body armor, he definitely wanted to be taken alive. I would think that an act done with so much preparation, senselessly but in a specific area was meant to send a message of some sort. Probably some crazy convoluted one as this guy seemed to think he was The Joker but he was making a point of some sort. Apparently he was just spraying bullets, it wasn't like Columbine (where the shooters had a vendetta and although they WERE spraying bullets, they also went after specific kids), here everyone had a chance of being a target.

I mean... Overall, to me, it sounds just from what I've pieced together, it sounds like the dude had some weird fantasy of being a movie villain and The Joker is known for taking innocents as part of his plots.

Again, I dunno much and its all speculation.[/quote]

From NCSkins link it appears he wanted to set a trap that required participation, when a more realistically way would be to just use a timer. It does feel like he was living out some sort of fantasy. But you cant help but feel like the dude is crazy like a serial killer and not a mass murderer. Just doesnt make sense.

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[quote=mlmpetert;925737]Just curious, were you planning on going tonight for awhile or did this somehow draw more interest or spur the decision for you or your group? Ive heard its been "sold out across America".[/quote]

I bought tickets in Imax 3 weeks ago. So I was going to see it today regardless of a the terrible events that occurred today. Like people said you can't let this stop you from going, this could have happened to anyone at anytime.

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[quote=mooby;925738]I'm going to see it in a couple hours tonight, and I hope it ends up being the same for me as it was for you. You never know with these crazy bastards.[/quote]

You'll love it, I really don't understand how people can't like this movie (referring to the 18 critics on rottentomato.com; who now have death threats against them).

This movie goes by fast, hell I wish it was 3 or 4 hours long like it was originally supposed to be. Bane is incredible. The action is great. The effects are great. If you can see it in IMAX, DO IT! It's worth the $15, trust me.

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so, norway isn't as gun happy as we are, but they still had a massacre.

if you ban guns, do you really think murderous nutjobs are going to care about breaking gun laws, when, you know, they're planning on killing people?

I don't understand why a deer rifle or what have you needs a 100 round clip or anything like that, but a gun ban isn't retroactive, there'll still be a billionty existing weapons floating around.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;925751]You'll love it, I really don't understand how people can't like this movie (referring to the 18 critics on rottentomato.com; who now have death threats against them).

This movie goes by fast, hell I wish it was 3 or 4 hours long like it was originally supposed to be. Bane is incredible. The action is great. The effects are great. If you can see it in IMAX, DO IT! It's worth the $15, trust me.[/quote]

Death threats over an opinion of a movie? :doh:

I guess it's not too hard to see why this incident happened when there are so many maniacs out there.

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[quote=Mattyk;925780]Death threats over an opinion of a movie? :doh:

I guess it's not too hard to see why this incident happened when there are so many maniacs out there.[/quote]

Bill Maher had a comment very close to this on twitter yesterday and it's just as good a point now as it was then. I seriously can't understand the vitriol directed at someone for having an opinion on a movie about anything, much less some middle aged dude in a bat costume prancing from rooftop to rooftop.

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[url=http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-sex-website-penis-cops/?adid=hero5]James Holmes -- Cops Investigating Sex Site Profile | TMZ.com[/url]

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They should hook this guy up to the electric chair and make it a pay per view event. I'd throw down a few dollars to watch him fry.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;925787]Bill Maher had a comment very close to this on twitter yesterday and it's just as good a point now as it was then. I seriously can't understand the vitriol directed at someone for having an opinion on a movie about anything, much less some middle aged dude in a bat costume prancing from rooftop to rooftop.[/quote]

You sir will give my movie a Fresh rating or I shall unleash my jihad on you!!!

[QUOTE=That Guy;925757]so, norway isn't as gun happy as we are, but they still had a massacre.

if you ban guns, do you really think murderous nutjobs are going to care about breaking gun laws, when, you know, they're planning on killing people?

I don't understand why a deer rifle or what have you needs a 100 round clip or anything like that, but a gun ban isn't retroactive, there'll still be a billionty existing weapons floating around.[/QUOTE]

Norway hasn't had as many shootings as we have. Look up the annual numbers.

Just because a ban isn't retroactive, isn't an excuse to ignore the problem. Like you said there needs to be a better job of restricting certain types of weapons and ammo.

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;925709]I'm going to manufacture a new line of baseball bat.
I'll call it the Assault Bat.
Maybe someone will buy one and kill his neighbor with it.
OMG!
Bats are evil.
The media will sensationalize the name and create a bunch of hype and ignorant libs will eat it up.
Ban all baseball bats![/QUOTE]

What kills people quicker and more efficiently? Guns.

Your above argument is so ridiculous.

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[quote=hooskins;925796]What kills people quicker and more efficiently? Guns.

Your above argument is so ridiculous.[/quote]


Bombs.


So is yours. :silly:


Can we get back to talking about the tragedy? Somebody start a "gun control" thread in the Debating with the Enemy section.

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[quote=hooskins;925796]What kills people quicker and more efficiently? Guns.

Your above argument is so ridiculous.[/quote]

Oh please.....you anti gun weiners crack me up.
Tim McVeigh killed 168 people in one instance without using a single firearm.
You want to ban fertilizer and cargo vans?