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punch it in 12-11-2012 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=los panda;974473]yes, there was a custom shirt found at the scene, it fit neither brent nor brown.[/QUOTE]

Do shirts have thread counts like sheets?

The Goat 12-11-2012 06:19 PM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;974415]Its not the same article, but the same story, the same account.

And let me ask you this. when you responded quickly and effectively, were you -

1) drunk
2) been in a car that flipped and rolled over at high speed
3) in an obvious and documented state of shock, as evidenced by your inability to comprehend the situation around you?

Brent should be condemned for his choice to drink and drive. No one is excusing that. But criticizing him for not responding quickly when clearly in a state of shock shows you either a) did not read the actual account b) did not comprehend what you read or c) chose not to comprehend the account c) generally lack common sense.

Given your other posts on this site, i'm going to rule out c. I would suggest you read the article again, read the comments on the site, and see if you can understand why so many of us are chosing not to condemn Brent for his slowness to respond after the accident. If you still chose to think he had the ability to respond more quickly, then please provide us with an explanation of what we all must be missing.[/quote]

My hs friends that crashed were drunk and injured, but still took care of their bud quick. BTW how the hell did you not question the trunk reference? He was in the trunk! I don't know why we did the stupid stuff we did, I rode in the same trunk doing exactly what they did that night.

I was drunk when we almost capsized the boat.

But does any of that matter? I'll pass on this one...you win.

T.O.Killa 12-11-2012 06:20 PM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
Sorry, I figured if we were talking about the family forgiving him, there was no way this story was out there. When they read that story I cant imagine them forgiving him.

punch it in 12-11-2012 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;974482]Sorry, I figured if we were talking about the family forgiving him, there was no way this story was out there. When they read that story I cant imagine them forgiving him.[/QUOTE]

Because that story as I believe Panda pointed out was one ladies take on what she saw. Her version was more news worthy and gave her 15 minutes of fame.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-12-2012 10:11 AM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
[quote=The Goat;974479]My hs friends that crashed were drunk and injured, but still took care of their bud quick. BTW how the hell did you not question the trunk reference? He was in the trunk! I don't know why we did the stupid stuff we did, I rode in the same trunk doing exactly what they did that night.

I was drunk when we almost capsized the boat.

But does any of that matter? I'll pass on this one...you win.[/quote]

i read trunk as truck, so my bad... but wtf!? why on earth was he in the trunk!? you guys were nutts! Anyway, i'm glad the outcome of your accident was better than this one.

MTK 12-12-2012 11:02 AM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;974395][B]I just hope Brent wasn't drinking Wild Irish Rose or Ripple or any type of cheap wine.[/B] If he was drinking and driving, then why was the Cowboys player that was killed in the car with him? He took an unnecessary risk with his own life. You don't allow yourself to get into a vehicle with a driver that is getting tore up. That's a total no-no.[/quote]

Why does it matter what he was drinking?

hooskins 12-12-2012 11:04 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk;974743]Why does it matter what he was drinking?[/QUOTE]

Bad attempt at a joke, I think.

FRPLG 12-12-2012 11:17 AM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
I'm gonna throw this out there.

Why is it so bad to have a tiny sliver of compassion for someone who ACCIDENTALLY killed a friend? What he did was make a tragic, horrible, and terrible decision and he'll pay the rest of his life for it but why does he deserve outright disgust? I'm not saying he should be excused in any way but I would hope decent people could find a small glimmer of compassion here. How does hating the guy make anything better? Brown is still dead either way. If it just makes you feel better or superior then I feel sorry for you too.

SmootSmack 12-12-2012 11:29 AM

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I agree with you FRPLG. But, as I said earlier, seem to be a lot of "perfect" people in this thread

Also, I can't help but think that the opinion might be a bit different if these weren't Dallas Cowboys players.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-12-2012 11:37 AM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
[quote=Schneed10;972369]Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be Cowboys. Because God hates them and makes them dead.

There, that ought to stir the pot![/quote]

reposted for inappropriate humor.

[quote=FRPLG;974752]I'm gonna throw this out there.

Why is it so bad to have a tiny sliver of compassion for someone who ACCIDENTALLY killed a friend? What he did was make a tragic, horrible, and terrible decision and he'll pay the rest of his life for it but why does he deserve outright disgust? I'm not saying he should be excused in any way but I would hope decent people could find a small glimmer of compassion here. How does hating the guy make anything better? Brown is still dead either way. If it just makes you feel better or superior then I feel sorry for you too.[/quote]

reposted for contrast and strength.


[quote=SmootSmack;974759]I agree with you FRPLG. But, as I said earlier, seem to be a lot of "perfect" people in this thread

Also, I can't help but think that the [B]opinion might be a bit different if these weren't Dallas Cowboys players.[/B][/quote]

I would hope that wouldn't be a consideration. I understand the circumstances were different, but Cowboys fans were nothing but sympathetic and classy after STs murder.

MTK 12-12-2012 11:47 AM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
[quote=FRPLG;974752]I'm gonna throw this out there.

Why is it so bad to have a tiny sliver of compassion for someone who ACCIDENTALLY killed a friend? What he did was make a tragic, horrible, and terrible decision and he'll pay the rest of his life for it but why does he deserve outright disgust? I'm not saying he should be excused in any way but I would hope decent people could find a small glimmer of compassion here. How does hating the guy make anything better? Brown is still dead either way. If it just makes you feel better or superior then I feel sorry for you too.[/quote]

It takes a big person to forgive or at least have some empathy in a situation like this, sadly most folks aren't up to the task.

hooskins 12-12-2012 11:59 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk;974768]It takes a big person to forgive or at least have some empathy in a situation like this, sadly most folks aren't up to the task.[/QUOTE]

I also think there is this prevailing mentality that things are black and white. Right and wrong. Things cant be in the middle. Why can't he be wrong for his actions but someone we can have empathy for?

In the world of quick news flashes, opinionated discourse and negativity, constructive discourse is lost. I think we see a reflection of that, at times, here.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-12-2012 12:04 PM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
[quote=hooskins;974776]I also think there is this prevailing mentality that things are black and white. Right and wrong. Things cant be in the middle. Why can't he be wrong for his actions but someone we can have empathy for?

In the world of quick news flashes, opinionated discourse and negativity, constructive discourse is lost. I think we see a reflection of that, at times, here.[/quote]

In my opinion, you should forgive anyone anything if they take actions to demonstrate remorse and repentance. So far, Brent has done nothing but show remorse. I hope that, after he fulfills his inevitable sentence, he uses his experience as a platform to speak out against drinking and driving and convince others its a serious issue. Too many people drive drunk but think nothing bad will ever happen to them.

Chico23231 12-12-2012 12:46 PM

Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter
 
[quote=FRPLG;974752]I'm gonna throw this out there.

Why is it so bad to have a tiny sliver of compassion for someone who ACCIDENTALLY killed a friend? What he did was make a tragic, horrible, and terrible decision and he'll pay the rest of his life for it but why does he deserve outright disgust? I'm not saying he should be excused in any way but I would hope decent people could find a small glimmer of compassion here. How does hating the guy make anything better? Brown is still dead either way. If it just makes you feel better or superior then I feel sorry for you too.[/quote]

I agree for compassion with anybody in that situation. But I hope he goes to jail for a long time. 2nd DUI? He clearly isnt perfect, or smart for that matter.

redskins5044 12-12-2012 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=Chico23231;974799]I agree for compassion with anybody in that situation. But I hope he goes to jail for a long time. 2nd DUI? He clearly isnt perfect, or smart for that matter.[/QUOTE]

He probably won't due much jail time, will more than likely plea to lesser charge. He can afford a good lawyer who can plea it down. His real punishment is going to living with killing his friend, because of something so stupid by not calling a cab.


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