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[quote=Chico23231;1089625]Brady is a tall skinny rail.[/quote]

Your right,thats a good example.
But Im sure you know Brady doesnt take hits like Griffin.Griffin probably takes more hits in a game{some his fault,some off line] than Brady does in a season

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Ideally Griffin should be Joe Montana and Randall Cunningham rolled into one, but if he's merely as good as Russell Wilson, I'll be happy with that.

But first he's got to stay healthy

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[quote=over the mountain;1089673]if the redskins draft winston i will literally stop being a redskins fan. it wouldnt even be a hard choice. no way i could root for that guy.

RG3 will be the man.[/quote]

Yeah right. If they drafted him and he became a great QB you'd be on the bandwagon.

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[quote=skinsguy;1089739]I like your thinking, but I seriously doubt Buffalo or the NY Jets would trade a 1st rounder AND a legit 0-lineman for RGIII. I'm doubting RGIII would command a first round pick right now. Maybe toward the end of the season, if he gets back in there and plays really well. But then again, if he gets back in there and plays really well, why trade him?

Also, do we know that Winston is reading defenses and making that committed throw before his receivers are coming out of their breaks, or is he simply throwing to the designed destination no matter what? It's kind of hard to tell on the collegiate level sometimes. Anyway, even if Winston has all the tools and smarts of a Joe Montana/Tom Brady/Drew Brees/Warren Moon.....he's a HUGE risk for off the field trouble and the Redskins have enough issues as it is.[/quote]

I just think he's every bit as good or better than Luck was. He calls out protections, he's under center, he's running a complex NFL type of offense. To top it off he actually gets good grades. Yeah he's a knucklehead, probably needs to grow up, but like I said, if he's there I'd think about it. I don't think Gruden is in love with RG3 and doesn't have patience to develop him. Anyway...just a thought.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1089790]Newton was deemed a risk b/c he was flamboyant and questions existed as to his ability to be "pro-ready" day 1.

Winston is a risk b/c he is an accused rapist, thief and general head case. Big difference.[/quote]

Two witnesses said it was consensual. He stole some crab legs and yelled something stupid. He needs to grow up but it would not stop me from drafting him.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1089839]Two witnesses said it was consensual. He stole some crab legs and yelled something stupid. He needs to grow up but it would not stop me from drafting him.[/quote]
Deep breath Vinnie.....
The dude has character....issues. The 2k autograph will soon bite him in the ass. Who knows what tidbits are yet to be mined by some enterprising reporter type? It should be quite entertaining. But I did hear Chris Carter say something that was both smart and entertaining (unheard of by CC). He said all this stuff will determine is what round he goes. Won't risk a one....how bout rd 2 or 3?

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[quote=Hog1;1089855]Deep breath Vinnie.....
The dude has character....issues. The 2k autograph will soon bite him in the ass. Who knows what tidbits are yet to be mined by some enterprising reporter type? It should be quite entertaining. But I did hear Chris Carter say something that was both smart and entertaining (unheard of by CC). He said all this stuff will determine is what round he goes. Won't risk a one....how bout rd 2 or 3?[/quote]

Taking the 2k wouldn't bother me at all. Who cares? FSU is making waaaaaay more than 2k on his jersey sales. Really the only thing so far that's worrisome about Winston is the stealing crab legs. Really stupid.

He won't last until the 2nd round. No way.

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Your right the revenue from the 2k autographs could be as much as 40k. More importantly, he breaks the rules with abandon. Violates policies the same. Moreover, other atrocities will no doubt turn up. Maybe worst of all. The statement he yelled in the cafeteria is just.....classless.......Trash
No Thanx

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Rg doesnt need Wilsons blueprint. Kid played one and a half a series of game with the brace off. He just needs to get healthy.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1089827]Your right,thats a good example.
But Im sure you know Brady doesnt take hits like Griffin.Griffin probably takes more hits in a game{some his fault,some off line] than Brady does in a season[/quote]

Yeah, Id really didnt notice till I went to camp and got to see the Patriots vs Skins here in Richmond. One thing about Brady, he is known to whine when taking hits to his Oline and the refs. Ive heard that from player interviews.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1089790]Newton was deemed a risk b/c he was flamboyant and questions existed as to his ability to be "pro-ready" day 1.



Winston is a risk b/c he is an accused rapist, thief and general head case. Big difference.[/QUOTE]


I'll agree the accused rapist part is a very red flag, but it's still only an accusation, you know that better than anyone. And don't tell me your buying the stealing crab legs thing? I'd bet my house there have been over 100 players before him that have done the same thing at that store, this time someone wanted to call him out.

Newton on the other hand, took someone's laptop, painted it black and wrote Cam Newton on it. Then when the cops came to his dorm, he threw it out the window. A little worse than walking out with some free crab legs IMO.

All I'm saying is at the end of the day it's hard to judge these kids in college on what they will be based off of an incident or two in college. But it does make good headlines.

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[quote=mlmdub130;1089866]I'll agree the accused rapist part is a very red flag, but it's still only an accusation, you know that better than anyone. And don't tell me your buying the stealing crab legs thing? I'd bet my house there have been over 100 players before him that have done the same thing at that store, this time someone wanted to call him out.

Newton on the other hand, took someone's laptop, painted it black and wrote Cam Newton on it. Then when the cops came to his dorm, he threw it out the window. A little worse than walking out with some free crab legs IMO.

All I'm saying is at the end of the day it's hard to judge these kids in college on what they will be based off of an incident or two in college. But it does make good headlines.[/quote]What is there to "buy" about the crab legs? Winston shoplifted, in a stupid retarded manner to boot. There have been 100 other players like him, yeah like cam newton, they are just as stupid as winston.

Dude, a speeding ticket analogy is more appropriate. When u get one, chances are its not the first time u sped. Question for NFL GMs is, how many other stupid things has winston done? And can he still play like Newton or Vick?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1089790]Newton was deemed a risk b/c he was flamboyant and questions existed as to his ability to be "pro-ready" day 1.

Winston is a risk b/c he is an accused rapist, thief and general head case. Big difference.[/quote]

Considering that Cam stole a computer and threw it out the window in an attempt to hide it from the cops. Im not exactly sold on it being a big difference. That clearly makes Cam a thief and throwing it out the window to hide it from cops takes care of the head case part. Now if anyone has any accusations that Cam is a rapist, we can call it a trifecta and declare them one and the same.

Winston has at least faced his issues and didnt transfer multiple times until he got paid... I mean, found the right situation for him. Winston is a dumbshit for sure, but the only difference between Cam and Winston is that Cam has matured in the NFL and is turning into a good NFL QB where Winston hasnt had that chance yet.

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Truth be told, I don't want such a guy on the team, even if he turned out to be the best player ever

Even if he is innocent of rape (and that's a big if considering all the rape that goes on in US colleges), he's the type of guy who attracts nothing but bad.

Skins have problems on the field, but one of the things I like about our players is for the most part we haven't had any big scandals from them in a long time (correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't heard of skins players beating their wives, raping some girl, hazing and bullying other players, etc.)

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Bottom line is we have two QB's in their 3rd year. RG3 has yet to prove he can run an NFL offense, he struggled in preseason and he's injury prone. KC really does a lot of things well in this offense, but can he kick these turnovers and is he mentally tough enough to overcome it? Two question marks at QB on a bad team. All I'm saying is I would not cross the best QB coming out of the draft off my list.