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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1192888]I really doubt either is there at 13. Question is would you even consider jumping to 10 and brother Gruden if one still remains?[/quote]

Here are 11 players that are probably gone before pick #13, so one or the other should be available. (or both)

1) Darnold QB
2) Barkley RB
3) Nelson G
4) Rosen QB
5) Chubb DE
6) Allen QB
7) Ward CB
8) Mayfield QB
9) Davenport DE
10) Edmunds LB
11) Smith LB

no special order

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1192891]Here are 11 players that are probably gone before pick #13, so one or the other should be available. (or both)

1) Darnold QB
2) Barkley RB
3) Nelson G
4) Rosen QB
5) Chubb DE
6) Allen QB
7) Ward CB
8) Mayfield QB
9) Davenport DE
10) Edmunds LB
11) Smith LB

no special order[/QUOTE]I doubt Davenport or ward go before minkah and james. That would be shocking to me.

But of course i could see somebody trading up to get lamar jackson.

Obviously there are always shockers, but minkah and james are both top 10 guys.

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A lot of expert mocks have James going in the mid to late teens ... point is only 12 guys can go before we pick, someone unexpected is bound to be there

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[quote=MTK;1192885]Cooley was gushing about Edmunds today, said he would be his top choice of all the possibilities at 13[/quote]

Just listened to it. The closer we get to the draft, the more I hear and understand the "100% BPA over need" approach, the idea of getting a real baller/future All Pro truly is exciting.
I'm still worried about our DL, but if we get a [B]playmaker in the front 7[/B] in Tremaine Edmunds, and Allen, Ioannidis and Taylor stay healthy... it would still be an improved version of our defense at the beginning of last season.

All Cooley pre draft breakdowns, it's pretty obvious LB Tremaine Edmunds and S Derwin James are the 2 he likes the most, and Guice the one he likes the least, Payne and Vea he likes but not at 13:

[URL="http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/04_19_18_Cooley_Film_Breakdown___Derrius_Guice-1524146840.mp3"]Derrius Guice[/URL]

[URL="http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/04_20_18_Cooley_Film_Breakdown___DaRon_Payne___Vita_Vea-1524233573.mp3"]DaRon Payne and Vita Vea[/URL]

[URL="http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/04_20_18_Cooley_Film_Breakdown___DBs_Fitzparick___James-1524492552.mp3"]Minkah Fitzpatrick and Derwin James[/URL]

[URL="http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/04_24_18_Cooley_Film_Breakdown___LBs_Smith___Edmunds-1524580382.mp3"]Roquan Smith and Tremaine Edmunds[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1192893]A lot of expert mocks have James going in the mid to late teens ... point is only 12 guys can go before we pick, someone unexpected is bound to be there[/quote]

My guess is that you're right about that, based on history. Yet I just can't get out of my head the idea that we should trade down and pick up another 2nd or 3rd or even a 3rd and a 4th or 5th. We have holes to fill. I guess I feel strongly both ways. Sigh. I have a bad case of draftitis.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1192895]My guess is that you're right about that, based on history. Yet I just can't get out of my head the idea that we should trade down and pick up another 2nd or 3rd or even a 3rd and a 4th or 5th. We have holes to fill. I guess I feel strongly both ways. Sigh. [B]I have a bad case of draftitis.[/B][/quote]
I feel like every scenario with over a 50% chance of happening has been played through over and over. Yet undoubtedly one team will shock everybody with either an incredibly bold move, or an incredibly stupid pick.

I can't see us picking at 13. If we do, I would wonder what Bruce was asking for the pick.

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Yeah somebody always makes a reach pick for a need, or unexpectedly trades up to grab a player before somebody else. It's a virtual certainty in my mind that at least one of those events will happen in the top 12.

One of the elite athletes is going to make it to us, I just hope we're smart enough to take him and not go for Guice or some bullshit.

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[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/24/despite-first-round-success-redskins-lack-wins/[/url]

Literally every 1st round pick we have picked except the last 2 who have gotten hurt in their first season have been pro bowlers since 2006. Highest percentage in the league

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Vita Vea's full name:

Tevita "Vita" Tuliakiono Tuipuloto Mosese Va'hae Faletau Vea

Have it ready to roll off your lips by Friday.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1192904]Vita Vea's full name:

Tevita "Vita" Tuliakiono Tuipuloto Mosese Va'hae Faletau Vea

Have it ready to roll off your lips by Friday.[/quote]

I feel kind of disrespected reading that.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1192907]I feel kind of disrespected reading that.[/quote]

Sorry? No disrespect intended.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1192904]Vita Vea's full name:

Tevita "Vita" Tuliakiono Tuipuloto Mosese Va'hae Faletau Vea

Have it ready to roll off your lips by Friday.[/quote]

[IMG]http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/D7Z_HA4ohr8l.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1192902][url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/24/despite-first-round-success-redskins-lack-wins/[/url]

Literally every 1st round pick we have picked except the last 2 who have gotten hurt in their first season have been pro bowlers since 2006. Highest percentage in the league[/quote]

Percentage is a poor way to evaluate it, that's why. It's more important to have a higher number of pro bowlers coming out of first round picks than it is to have a higher percentage.

Would you rather be the Vikings who picked in the first round 13 times and landed 9 pro bowlers, or the Redskins who picked in the first round only 8 times and landed 6 pro bowlers?

I'll take 9 over 6, even if the 6 was a higher hit rate. More swings of the bat is the key.

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Thank you for this!!!!!

[quote=FrenchSkin;1192894]Just listened to it. The closer we get to the draft, the more I hear and understand the "100% BPA over need" approach, the idea of getting a real baller/future All Pro truly is exciting.
I'm still worried about our DL, but if we get a [B]playmaker in the front 7[/B] in Tremaine Edmunds, and Allen, Ioannidis and Taylor stay healthy... it would still be an improved version of our defense at the beginning of last season.

All Cooley pre draft breakdowns, it's pretty obvious LB Tremaine Edmunds and S Derwin James are the 2 he likes the most, and Guice the one he likes the least, Payne and Vea he likes but not at 13:

[URL="http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/04_19_18_Cooley_Film_Breakdown___Derrius_Guice-1524146840.mp3"]Derrius Guice[/URL]

[URL="http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/04_20_18_Cooley_Film_Breakdown___DaRon_Payne___Vita_Vea-1524233573.mp3"]DaRon Payne and Vita Vea[/URL]

[URL="http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/04_20_18_Cooley_Film_Breakdown___DBs_Fitzparick___James-1524492552.mp3"]Minkah Fitzpatrick and Derwin James[/URL]

[URL="http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mpeg/04_24_18_Cooley_Film_Breakdown___LBs_Smith___Edmunds-1524580382.mp3"]Roquan Smith and Tremaine Edmunds[/URL][/quote]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1192902][url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/24/despite-first-round-success-redskins-lack-wins/[/url]

Literally every 1st round pick we have picked except the last 2 who have gotten hurt in their first season have been pro bowlers since 2006. Highest percentage in the league[/quote]

That percentage drops to 54% when you factor in the 3 first round picks we used to get RG3.