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skinsfaninok 11-18-2020 05:05 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=SunnySide;1265547]How do you pull some of the stats that you do? I consider myself pretty versed with finding advanced stats but you OK, you find some gems.

Ive been looking for total number of air passing yards plays over 20 yards for the skins, for the league and by our QBs if possible (haskins vs Allen vs Smith). Im really curious on where we rank in passing air attempts over 20 yards. Im guessing bottom 3.[/quote]

Working for PFF bro it has some perks lol

And I'll get that stat too

skinsfaninok 11-18-2020 05:48 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
So on passes of 20 plus yards downfield

Haskins was 1 of 10 for 39 yards
Allen was 3 of 6 for 100 yards
Smith is 6 of 12 for 221 yards

Deep % Haskins = 6.8% Allen 6.7% Alex Smith = 11.6%

Haskins is 4th lowest , Allen 5th. Only Brees, Mullens and Newton are lower.

Smith is ranked 19th

skinsfaninok 11-18-2020 05:52 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=Chico23231;1265540]I wonder what the percentage of pre snap is the jet sweep motion. I see that a ton[/quote]

Have to run the data on this I'll post it in a few

Chief X_Phackter 11-18-2020 05:59 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1265552]So on passes of 20 plus yards downfield

Haskins was 1 of 10 for 39 yards
Allen was 3 of 6 for 100 yards
Smith is 6 of 12 for 221 yards

Deep % Haskins = 6.8% Allen 6.7% Alex Smith = 11.6%

Haskins is 4th lowest , Allen 5th. Only Brees, Mullens and Newton are lower.

Smith is ranked 19th[/quote]

Funny, I never hear anyone calling Drew Brees - Checkdown Charlie

AnonEmouse 11-18-2020 06:13 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1265554]Funny, I never hear anyone calling Drew Brees - Checkdown Charlie[/quote]

Worth pointing out he's been most of the season without his supposed top 2 WR's, Thomas and Sanders. Kamara is carrying the load because he's had no names to launch it to. And now he's off at least 2 weeks with broken ribs. :rolleyes:

mooby 11-18-2020 06:29 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1265554]Funny, I never hear anyone calling Drew Brees - Checkdown Charlie[/quote]

I think Brees was also dealing with a shoulder injury this year too which is why he didn't know immediately about the broken ribs. Not sure if it's on his throwing arm but def would explain it more. Looks like Brees' retirement year isn't going the way he anticipated.

Chief X_Phackter 11-18-2020 06:52 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=mooby;1265556]I think Brees was also dealing with a shoulder injury this year too which is why he didn't know immediately about the broken ribs. Not sure if it's on his throwing arm but def would explain it more. Looks like Brees' retirement year isn't going the way he anticipated.[/quote]

[quote]Worth pointing out he's been most of the season with his supposed top 2 WR's, Thomas and Sanders. Kamara is carrying the load because he's had no names to launch it to. And now he's off at least 2 weeks with broken ribs.[/quote]

True, very true.

FrenchSkin 11-18-2020 07:01 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1265474]He already has more sacks this year than last year, and he's on pace to have more tackles, more tackles for loss, and more QB hits. He's not great in coverage, but that has never been his strength as far as I know. That said, he is almost 10% better this year in pass coverage than last year. He is what he is, and I'm not sure it's worse this year than last year. Either way, the position needs to be upgraded.[/quote]

Fair enough. Maybe stats don't back up my feeling, and maybe I'm dead end wrong on this.
I just had a feeling last year seeing a bad ass mofo flashing up a lot in the backfield, and making some decent plays in coverage, and this year he looks lost and out of place, and he seems to be in the back field only when sent blitzing.

Chief X_Phackter 11-18-2020 07:02 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
Maybe because the D is better overall and he doesn't stand out as much.

FrenchSkin 11-18-2020 09:26 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1265563]Maybe because the D is better overall and he doesn't stand out as much.[/quote]

Maybe. I'd also be interested in listening to Cooley's film breakdown on Bostic last season and comparing it with this season's. The later are embarrassingly bad but sadly I don't think there's any of the former because Cooley wasn't with Sheehan last year. He was doing some sort of breakdown on the team's website IIRC but that didn't last long and he couldn't be nearly as straight forward.

EDIT: he only did an actual [URL="https://www.washingtonfootball.com/audio/the-chris-cooley-show-epsiode-80"]breakdown[/URL] after week 1 last year, with that weird voice kid, don't know if he's actually giving individual grades but I'll listen to it to see what he says about Bostic.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2020 08:47 AM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=Chico23231;1265540]I wonder what the percentage of pre snap is the jet sweep motion. I see that a ton[/quote]

Only 65 attempts league wide on Jet sweep pass.

SF leads the way
WFT has 0 Jet sweep pass attempts.

For Jet sweep run plays

115 Total league wide

WFT =5
Rams lead the league in attempts.

SunnySide 11-19-2020 09:49 AM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1265552]So on passes of 20 plus yards downfield

Haskins was 1 of 10 for 39 yards
Allen was 3 of 6 for 100 yards
Smith is 6 of 12 for 221 yards

Deep % Haskins = 6.8% Allen 6.7% Alex Smith = 11.6%

Haskins is 4th lowest , Allen 5th. Only Brees, Mullens and Newton are lower.

Smith is ranked 19th[/quote]

Working for PFF must be cool. I forgot, thats awesome.

Thank you for the stats. Very cool

MTK 11-19-2020 09:58 AM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1265555]Worth pointing out he's been most of the season with his supposed top 2 WR's, Thomas and Sanders. Kamara is carrying the load because he's had no names to launch it to. And now he's off at least 2 weeks with broken ribs. :rolleyes:[/quote]

Yeah, he still hasn't been himself this year, whether it's injury or simply father time catching up. Maybe it's a little of both.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2020 10:06 AM

Re: Lions PG
 
[quote=SunnySide;1265580]Working for PFF must be cool. I forgot, thats awesome.

Thank you for the stats. Very cool[/quote]

I just do it during the season and work mostly college games but yeah it's pretty cool. And no problem my man.

Meks 11-19-2020 01:21 PM

Re: Lions PG
 
Also, when you have Kamara ... you GET THE MAN THE BALL! Lol, checkdown or not.


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