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I agree 100%

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[quote=njant;1283637]Very disappointed looks like we are not going to sign McCain or Leno or both we could of really used them both especially McCain at FS[/quote]

There has been no news either way that I've seen since their Monday visits..

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The Washington Football has its left tackle: The WFT is signing former #Bears LT Charles Leno to a 1-year deal worth $5M, per
@SlavinRon
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Lucas probably not very happy.

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/11/22430211/washington-offensive-tackle-cornelius-lucas-is-furious-with-the-media"]Washington Offensive Tackle Cornelius Lucas is Furious With the Media[/URL]

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Lucas is good TBH

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We're gonna fuck around and have a real nice offensive line. Love the depth.

Really hope it's a true competition so Lucas has his chance to retain his spot. He's earned that.

Either way, we have a legitimate swing tackle and a rookie in training.

How bout this Washington Fucking Football Team!?!? WFFT!!!!

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I am honestly a little confused about this Leno signing honestly. I figured the T situation was Moses on the RT, and then it's a battle between Cosmi and Lucas for LT, with the other guy being the swing.

Now you get Leno - does it really improve you much over Lucas? It seems to be the end for Christian and Sharpe, which is a good thing. But we paid $5M here and I don't think the starting lineup got any better. Depth certainly did.

Seems we are setting up to have capable players deep at every position.

G is Scherff, Schweitzer, Charles, Flowers, all are capable or promising
T is Moses, Leno, Lucas, Cosmi all capable or promising
and C of course is Roullier

All of those guys can reasonably make a case for being a starter in this league with I guess Charles being the most questionable.

But if you weren't drafted or signed by Rivera and you play offensive line, you're in trouble.

Anyway, rambling post. Good depth move but $5M is a lot to not improve your starting lineup, so meh.

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We have some movable depth at tackle now. We get into camp and someone gets injured on another team, could move someone for a mid round pick

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[quote=Schneed10;1283683]I am honestly a little confused about this Leno signing honestly. I figured the T situation was Moses on the RT, and then it's a battle between Cosmi and Lucas for LT, with the other guy being the swing.

Now you get Leno - does it really improve you much over Lucas? It seems to be the end for Christian and Sharpe, which is a good thing. But we paid $5M here and I don't think the starting lineup got any better. Depth certainly did.

Seems we are setting up to have capable players deep at every position.

G is Scherff, Schweitzer, Charles, Flowers, all are capable or promising
T is Moses, Leno, Lucas, Cosmi all capable or promising
and C of course is Roullier

All of those guys can reasonably make a case for being a starter in this league with I guess Charles being the most questionable.

But if you weren't drafted or signed by Rivera and you play offensive line, you're in trouble.

Anyway, rambling post. Good depth move but $5M is a lot to not improve your starting lineup, so meh.[/quote]

Kinda agree. I thought Lucas played fairly well last year.

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[quote=Schneed10;1283683]I am honestly a little confused about this Leno signing honestly. I figured the T situation was Moses on the RT, and then it's a battle between Cosmi and Lucas for LT, with the other guy being the swing.

Now you get Leno - does it really improve you much over Lucas? It seems to be the end for Christian and Sharpe, which is a good thing. But we paid $5M here and I don't think the starting lineup got any better. Depth certainly did.

Seems we are setting up to have capable players deep at every position.

G is Scherff, Schweitzer, Charles, Flowers, all are capable or promising
T is Moses, Leno, Lucas, Cosmi all capable or promising
and C of course is Roullier

All of those guys can reasonably make a case for being a starter in this league with I guess Charles being the most questionable.

But if you weren't drafted or signed by Rivera and you play offensive line, you're in trouble.

Anyway, rambling post. Good depth move but $5M is a lot to not improve your starting lineup, so meh.[/quote] c.Leno is the best OT on the team right now durable and pretty darn good still ,now we need to sign McCain at FS, Leno is definitely upgrade over Lucas

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[quote=Chico23231;1283685]Kinda agree. I thought Lucas played fairly well last year.[/quote]

Yeah his pass blocking was quite strong, PFF had it in a good spot. I think he outranked Leno in PFF's grading.

Leno does have the one pro bowl to his name in 2018.

As long as Lucas gets a shot to win the job that I guess is all he can ask for and I believe Ron will give that a fair look.

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1 yr $5M is a prove it deal, based on his 2018 pro bowl form. If he can't unseat Lucas he's trade bait as Chico said. If he can Lucas is trade bait. Won't get a bundle for either but...

And with 24 starts across 4 teams in 7 seasons, Lucas has hardly earned the right to complain about the press.

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I believe the FO is taking advantage of the new cba which allows 46 active IF the extra players are OL, up to 8. Also with a 17 game season, and several OL guys "prone" to injury, Scherff - Moses are 2 notable ones, the extra bodies along the OL will prove to be one of the best moves of our off season.

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[quote=njant;1283686]c.Leno is the best OT on the team right now durable and pretty darn good still ,now we need to sign McCain at FS, Leno is definitely upgrade over Lucas[/quote]

Lucas in 536 snaps last year, 1 penalty and 2 sacks allowed. Overall grade from PFF of 78.2.

Leno 1066 snaps, 6 penalties, and 5 sacks allowed. I'll let you do the math and realize Lucas was better in both on a per-snap basis. Overall grade from PFF of 74.

I don't think you can say he's definitely an upgrade. You can say 'might be' an upgrade. But Lucas could just as easily beat him out.

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[quote=MTK;1283676]Lucas probably not very happy.

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/11/22430211/washington-offensive-tackle-cornelius-lucas-is-furious-with-the-media"]Washington Offensive Tackle Cornelius Lucas is Furious With the Media[/URL][/quote]

Too bad.