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So this thread def helped boost my ppd lol.

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[QUOTE=hooskins;230217]So this thread def helped boost my ppd lol.[/QUOTE]

what is ppd?

raise yo kizz raise yo kizz raise yo gahdam kizz

buy some lann buy some lann well fuk spinnin rimzzz

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[quote=Big C;230218]what is ppd?

raise yo kizz raise yo kizz raise yo gahdam kizz

buy some lann buy some lann well fuk spinnin rimzzz[/quote]

Posts per Day, obviously.

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Dennis Green just lost his cool. Poor guy.

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WOW did you just see Coach Green just blow up lol....wowww

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[quote=RobH4413;230221]Dennis Green just lost his cool. Poor guy.[/quote]

I know, I feel so bad for him, seriously. He is working his ass off in a terrible organization, and they should have won. I mean it was funny. But it looked like he was gonna cry.

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what did he do!??!!! i turned tv off!

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[quote=Big C;230224]what did he do!??!!! i turned tv off![/quote]

Oh dude! He was cussing and slamming his fists, and he just walked off. Go to Cards website, and see if it is up.

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[quote=Big C;230224]what did he do!??!!! i turned tv off![/quote]
He was cussing and slamming his fist against the podium. They asked something like "what did you expect of chicago" he was like "wtf do u think I expected of chicago. Everyone expected that.... this is bullshit!...."

it made me feel bad for him....

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its not on their website! they have a terrible web site!!! noooooooooooo

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im sure it will be on youtube soon enough...:(

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1h71vEQtCM]YouTube - Dennis Green tirade[/url]

Poor Denny Green.

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[quote=saden1;230195]I hate every team in the league except the Skins. If we don't win, no one should win god damn it!

That was an awful loss for the Cards! I feel really bad for them.[/quote]
ditto

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holy crap! he was PISSED. wow. did they bleep him out on espn?

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wow... this tops Mora's "playoffs" meltdown...

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Great game. This thread got more posts than the Titans game thread.

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[quote=Big C;230232]holy crap! he was PISSED. wow. did they bleep him out on espn?[/quote]
Yeah he was beeped on ESPN, but I dont think he was on ESPN News bc that is live.

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[quote=GTripp0012;230237]Great game. This thread got more posts than the Titans game thread.[/quote]

It deserved to.

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Wow, what a game. I can't believe the Cards blew that one, and I can't believe the Bears couldn't manage an offensive TD. One of my fantasy teams really thanks them for that.

I'm really impressed with Leinart. He's the real deal, I wasn't expecting him to be this good so quickly.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;230297]Wow, what a game. I can't believe the Cards blew that one, and I can't believe the Bears couldn't manage an offensive TD. One of my fantasy teams really thanks them for that.

I'm really impressed with Leinart. He's the real deal, I wasn't expecting him to be this good so quickly.[/QUOTE]

Does it say something about Campbell that Leinart can start and play great vs the feared Bears D as a rookie while Campbell needs to be coached up for a week as a 2nd year player to even be considered as a starter.

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[quote=irish;230309]Does it say something about Campbell that Leinart can start and play great vs the feared Bears D as a rookie while Campbell needs to be coached up for a week as a 2nd year player to even be considered as a starter.[/quote]

There's no comparing Leinart to Campbell. Leinart played 4 years at USC which is basically as big of a stage as you can get outside of the NFL. He also didn't have a different offensive coordinator every year like Campbell, and unlike Campbell, Leinart was a star throughout his college career and didn't take until his senior year to blossom like Campbell.

Leinart is very polished for a rookie QB, Campbell was much more green as a rookie and even in his 2nd year he's probably not as polished as Leinart is as a rookie. I'm not saying that Campbell couldn't come in right now and play well, but I really doubt he would have been ready last year as a rookie.

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I was as excited as anyone about the cards, and at exactly midnight my cable (and thus my internet connection) went completely dead. There was 40 seconds on the game clock and the cards had timeouts and were driving....

I woke up expecting to hear about the upset... I wonder if Neil Rakers will have a job tomorrow....

Then I wonder if rAckers would be an upgrade from novak??;)

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;230319]There's no comparing Leinart to Campbell. Leinart played 4 years at USC which is basically as big of a stage as you can get outside of the NFL. He also didn't have a different offensive coordinator every year like Campbell, and unlike Campbell, Leinart was a star throughout his college career and didn't take until his senior year to blossom like Campbell.

Leinart is very polished for a rookie QB, Campbell was much more green as a rookie and even in his 2nd year he's probably not as polished as Leinart is as a rookie. I'm not saying that Campbell couldn't come in right now and play well, but I really doubt he would have been ready last year as a rookie.[/QUOTE]

Didnt Campbell play at Auburn? I'm pretty sure Auburn is inthe SEC? That's at least as big a stage in college ball as the PAC 10.

I dont think it has anything to do with polish, (How polished can TB's Grabowski be? What big college stage did he play on?) and almost everything to do with a coach that just cannot get up to speed with how things are done in the 2006 NFL.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;230319]There's no comparing Leinart to Campbell. Leinart played 4 years at USC which is basically as big of a stage as you can get outside of the NFL. He also didn't have a different offensive coordinator every year like Campbell, and unlike Campbell, Leinart was a star throughout his college career and didn't take until his senior year to blossom like Campbell.

Leinart is very polished for a rookie QB, Campbell was much more green as a rookie and even in his 2nd year he's probably not as polished as Leinart is as a rookie. I'm not saying that Campbell couldn't come in right now and play well, but I really doubt he would have been ready last year as a rookie.[/QUOTE]

OK, how about Gradkowski for Tampa Bay? Is that a better comparison for you? He started his first game and won!

Imagine that?

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[QUOTE=irish;230360][B]Didnt Campbell play at Auburn? I'm pretty sure Auburn is inthe SEC? That's at least as big a stage in college ball as the PAC 10.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, in fact it's bigger and with much more competition than the PAC-10 had when Leinart was playing. The PAC-10 was nothing during Leinart's time at USC.

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[QUOTE=irish;230309]Does it say something about Campbell that Leinart can start and play great vs the feared Bears D as a rookie while Campbell needs to be coached up for a week as a 2nd year player to even be considered as a starter.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, it might say something.

But the lockstep Brunell supporters/Gibbs-can-do-no-wrong crowd can't have it both ways. If they trust Gibbs and his ability to judge quarterbacks implicitly, the way they say "he knows best" with Mark Brunell, then they can't at the same time say that Campbell is ready to play when Joe Gibbs clearly doesn't.

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[QUOTE=irish;230360]Didnt Campbell play at Auburn? I'm pretty sure Auburn is inthe SEC? That's at least as big a stage in college ball as the PAC 10.

I dont think it has anything to do with polish, (How polished can TB's Grabowski be? What big college stage did he play on?) and almost everything to do with a coach that just cannot get up to speed with how things are done in the 2006 NFL.[/QUOTE]

Philip Rivers played one (maybe two, can't remember) game his first two seasons. Having sat out the first two years hasn't hurt him in year three. There are countless other examples of QBs who sat the first couple of years and went on to be successful (Delhomme and Rypien for example. Two who played in Super Bowls)

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[quote=Mattyk72;230319]There's no comparing Leinart to Campbell. Leinart played 4 years at USC which is basically as big of a stage as you can get outside of the NFL. He also didn't have a different offensive coordinator every year like Campbell, and unlike Campbell, Leinart was a star throughout his college career and didn't take until his senior year to blossom like Campbell.

Leinart is very polished for a rookie QB, Campbell was much more green as a rookie and even in his 2nd year he's probably not as polished as Leinart is as a rookie. I'm not saying that Campbell couldn't come in right now and play well, but I really doubt he would have been ready last year as a rookie.[/quote]

Carroll's system, from what I understand, is basically a pro system anyway. It's not like he spent 3 years running the option at UT.

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Man Are you crazy? Lienart played in the weak ass pac 10! Campbell played in the BEST conference in college football bar none. THE SEC! Plus he excelled in college with 4, count'em,4 offensive coordinators! The talent around Matt Lienart made him and will continue to make him great! Why not give the kid a shot. ML is just another overhyped "prototypical" QB comin out of college! Campbell needs to play right now, or there won't be a future! How can Campbell be judged in the pre-season when he wasn't even out there with the starters!:banghead: HAIL from MCUSA!

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[QUOTE=Crat92;230382]Man Are you crazy? Lienart played in the weak ass pac 10! Campbell played in the BEST conference in college football bar none. THE SEC! Plus he excelled in college with 4, count'em,4 offensive coordinators! The talent around Matt Lienart made him and will continue to make him great! Why not give the kid a shot. ML is just another overhyped "prototypical" QB comin out of college! Campbell needs to play right now, or there won't be a future! How can Campbell be judged in the pre-season when he wasn't even out there with the starters!:banghead: HAIL from MCUSA![/QUOTE]

stop with the incessant logic. even thinking of questioning JG's judgement is blasphemy.

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[QUOTE=Crat92;230382]Campbell needs to play right now, or there won't be a future![/QUOTE]

By what logic?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;230393]By what logic?[/QUOTE]

read the rest of the post. and do you remember what happened to our last "QB of the future"? no.3 QB of the Jets...

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[quote=illdefined;230389]stop with the incessant logic. even thinking of questioning JG's judgement is blasphemy.[/quote]

HAHA

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;230378]Philip Rivers played one (maybe two, can't remember) game his first two seasons. Having sat out the first two years hasn't hurt him in year three. There are countless other examples of QBs who sat the first couple of years and went on to be successful (Delhomme and Rypien for example. Two who played in Super Bowls)[/QUOTE]


Rivers was sitting behind another young 1st rnd pick (Breese) not a has been. Delhomme was a backup to Favre (HOFer) and went to Carolina so he could play. Rypien was in 1991, thats ancient history in the NFL, things are not done that way anymore.

Sure none of these guys were hurt sitting out a few seasons but they were sitting out because they were behind real starters. Campbell is not backing up a superior QB he backing up a has been.

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[QUOTE=illdefined;230394]read the rest of the post. and do you remember what happened to our last "QB of the future"? no.3 QB of the Jets...[/QUOTE]

Well a.) remember that he inherited Ramsey and b.) not playing now doesn't doom Campbell to a life of failure. I just don't see the logic in the argument that all the great QBs play right away. If not, then they're ruined.

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[quote=TAFKAS;230405]Well a.) remember that he inherited Ramsey and b.) not playing now doesn't doom Campbell to a life of failure. I just don't see the logic in the argument that all the great QBs play right away. If not, then they're ruined.[/quote]

Only thing is, JC might get frustrated, and leave. Shit I would if I were him.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;230405]Well a.) remember that he inherited Ramsey and b.) not playing now doesn't doom Campbell to a life of failure. I just don't see the logic in the argument that all the great QBs play right away. If not, then they're ruined.[/QUOTE]

that's true Ramsey was inherited, but Gibbs still called Ramsey "the QB of the future" here after the 2004 season and trained him to be so. just stating the precedent.

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Campbell didn't really blossom until his senior year.

Leinart put up some big time numbers in his 3 years and won a Heisman.

I don't think it's really fair to compare the two, or say that just because Leinart is playing well that should somehow mean that Campbell should be playing. Two different players, two different situations, and circumstances.

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[quote=Mattyk72;230414]Campbell didn't really blossom until his senior year.[/quote]

Neither did Carson Palmer...

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[quote=Southpaw;230418]Neither did Carson Palmer...[/quote]

And he didn't start right away in the NFL either.