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best case scenario Clint Sintim falls to our next pick.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;550413]lol, i mean if I were a giants fan, i'd be ecstatic. I'm not a huge college football fan, but I caught a couple of NC games last year and he just stuck out every time. I'll put my skins hat back on now and say "Giants suck!"[/quote]

Lol.. yeah, you lost me for a second.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;550415]best case scenario Clint Sintim falls to our next pick.[/quote]

That would be nice, but we're a long way from #80. (Stating the obvious here, sorry).

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[quote=diehardskin2982;550415]best case scenario Clint Sintim falls to our next pick.[/quote]
That would be nice, but I don't think he will make it to the 3rd round.

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[quote=The Goat;550396]Gentleman's bet Rey has as good a career as any defensive player taken in this draft...you just don't find many badass inside LBs out there.[/quote]

OK, cause I have a hunch he will not be anything special. He'll have an average career at best. He had A LOT of nice talent around him to make things easy on him, now that he might have to be "the man", I don't think he'll be a shining star. But you never know. Of course, if we trade up for him, then I'll change my tune. ;)

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Ok...if Rey goes to Steelers i'm not gonna be a happy camper. The favorite to the hated :(

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I just woke up. WTF!?!?! why did we let the jets take Sanchez. Dont get me wrong i really like Orakpo, but i LOVED Sanchez. Our front office has absolutely no clue how to run a franchise. Had a chance to get get a franchise QB for the next 15 years and you let someone get him. On top of that they have completely alienated Jason Campbell over the last month or two. Ill tell you what this is gong to lead to at year end, especiallyif Campbell lights it up this year. He's either gonna tell them to: a. kiss his ass and leave or, b. hold them hostage when it comes time to renegotitate. And people wonder why the skins have only made the playoffs 3 times since 1992. Thanks alot Snyder and Cerrato or shoud I say Dumb and Dumber.

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I like Sanchez, but I'm glad we didn't mortgage the future, and some of our up and coming players to get him, We did the right thing, let's build through the draft.

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[quote=RIP21GOSkins;550434]I just woke up. WTF!?!?! why did we let the jets take Sanchez. Dont get me wrong i really like Orakpo, but i LOVED Sanchez. Our front office has absolutely no clue how to run a franchise. Had a chance to get get a franchise QB for the next 15 years and you let someone get him. On top of that they have completely alienated Jason Campbell over the last month or two. Ill tell you what this is gong to lead to at year end, especiallyif Campbell lights it up this year. He's either gonna tell them to: a. kiss his ass and leave or, b. hold them hostage when it comes time to renegotitate. And people wonder why the skins have only made the playoffs 3 times since 1992. Thanks alot Snyder and Cerrato or shoud I say Dumb and Dumber.[/quote]

Go back to sleep

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[quote=RMSkins;550424]That would be nice, but I don't think he will make it to the 3rd round.[/quote]

Well it seems like a higher power is keeping our front office from makin stupid mistakes and players that we actually need keep falling to us. It could happen

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[quote=Mattyk72;550440]Go back to sleep[/quote]

Nice. I'm thinking D$ overslept too and salvaged our draft.

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For those watching NFLN, every steeler fan did the same "I don't know who he is" face. LOL.

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[quote=Mattyk72;550440]Go back to sleep[/quote]

couldn't have said it better myself. But I am please on how the way has turned out. Im keeping my fingers crossed for one the OT's to fall to the third or caldwell. Any of them would make me ecstatic.

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Now what if the FO basically had Orakpo targeted the entire time and wanted to ensure somebody traded up for Sanchez (knowing Seattle wasn't taking him)? What if they told Jason Campbell to play along to the media? What if... nah, I'll just be grateful the chips fell where they did...

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[quote=Mattyk72;550440]Go back to sleep[/quote]

Matty must be in a pretty good mood cuz I figured another would bite the dust LOL.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;550441][B]Well it seems like a higher power is keeping our front office from makin stupid mistakes[/B] and players that we actually need keep falling to us. It could happen[/quote]

We keep crediting other powers, like the Bears, Jets, and now God, for saving the FO from stupidity. If this continues, at some point we are going to have to admit that the FO is not as stupid as we think.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;550441]Well it seems like a higher power is keeping our front office from makin stupid mistakes and players that we actually need keep falling to us. It could happen[/quote]

Or maybe they just knew what they were doing all along.

Crazy, I know.

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[quote=itvnetop;550450]Now what if the FO basically had Orakpo targeted the entire time and wanted to ensure somebody traded up for Sanchez (knowing Seattle wasn't taking him)? What if they told Jason Campbell to play along to the media? What if... nah, I'll just be grateful the chips fell where they did...[/quote]

I am quite sure that that is what happened. Did you see how fast we got the Orakpo card in? We obviously were smitten with HIM. We would not have been willing to sell the farm for Sanchez if we were so happy with the idea of getting Orakpo.

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I've been a skins fan for a long time and now that they are making good decisions it is kinda shocking!

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[quote=Lotus;550457]I am quite sure that that is what happened. Did you see how fast we got the Orakpo card in? We obviously were smitten with HIM. We would not have been willing to sell the farm for Sanchez if we were so happy with the idea of getting Orakpo.[/quote]

If that's the case, then they may have pulled off the biggest hoodwink to a fanbase in years... they used their free-wheeling/spending reputation they've built and pulled a 180! Talk about playing with the media... still not sure I believe this, but if I were the FO- this is what I'd say to us.

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Cerrato in his presser basically gushed about how the Jets taking Sanchez (an offensive player) opened up the door for a Defensive player to fall to us. I must say those who thought this all was a smokescreen might not have been "off their meds" as was suggested!

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The Lions could have had Stafford, Pettigrew, and Maualuga. They didn't need to pick a safety there. I'm surprised Jim Schwartz didn't take either Rey or Laurinitis.

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[quote=itvnetop;550464]If that's the case, then they may have pulled off the biggest hoodwink to a fanbase in years... they used their free-wheeling/spending reputation they've built and pulled a 180! Talk about playing with the media... still not sure I believe this, but if I were the FO- this is what I'd say to us.[/quote]

If this is the case, then I'm completely guilty of buying it. At this point I'm just going to be grateful and leave the counter espionage to the pros.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550402]The Giants helped themselves I think[/quote]

They did help by adding a needed catcher. But now that they don't have Shoot-Myself Burress any more, they've got no threat to keep defenses from cheating against the run. Plus they lost Ward. I think their vaunted ground game is not going to be as tough next year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550466]Cerrato in his presser basically gushed about how the Jets taking Sanchez (an offensive player) opened up the door for a Defensive player to fall to us. I must say those who thought this all was a smokescreen might not have been "off their meds" as was suggested![/quote]

I think it was dumb luck, why alienate your QB in the public for no reason?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550466]Cerrato in his presser basically gushed about how the Jets taking Sanchez (an offensive player) opened up the door for a Defensive player to fall to us. I must say those who thought this all was a smokescreen might not have been "off their meds" as was suggested![/quote]

Well, what's he supposed to say? "Gosh, we really wanted Sanchez but since we couldn't get him, I guess we'll settle for Orakpo?"

Nice pick for Steve Spagnuolo's new defense in St. Louis with Laurinaitis.

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[quote=itvnetop;550464]If that's the case, then they may have pulled off the biggest hoodwink to a fanbase in years... they used their free-wheeling/spending reputation they've built and pulled a 180! Talk about playing with the media... still not sure I believe this, but if I were the FO- this is what I'd say to us.[/quote]

I believe it. I say big kudos to the FO. They had everyone played.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;550472]I think it was dumb luck, why alienate your QB in the public for no reason?[/quote]

All that matters is what they told him behind closed doors.

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Wow... Rey is going behind Laurinitis. It has to be Rey's lack of discipline- tendency to over-pursue cutback lanes killed him against smaller, fast running backs. NFL defenses cannot risk drafting someone on hitting ability alone- he's got to play within a system with the speed of offensive skill at the next level (he could get away with it in college, especially with Cush and Matthews doing the "boring" work next to him).

As a Trojan, I hope he proves everyone wrong with whatever team takes him... but I'm glad we didn't (Lavar was enough).

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[quote=Mattyk72;550455]Or maybe they just knew what they were doing all along.

Crazy, I know.[/quote]

It will probably come out that we tried very hard to get Sanchez, but the Jets offer was too much to overcome. After we couldn't have Sanchez, they focused on the task at hand, and that was Orakpo.
Thank you Jets for taking the decision out of our FO hands!

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[quote=Mattyk72;550476]All that matters is what they told him behind closed doors.[/quote]

Exactly.

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[quote=Mattyk72;550476]All that matters is what they told him behind closed doors.[/quote]

I think if that's true, it should come out in the coming weeks. I'd love to hear JC say that D$ and VC came to him with this plan 3 weeks ago.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;550466]Cerrato in his presser basically gushed about how the Jets taking Sanchez (an offensive player) opened up the door for a Defensive player to fall to us. I must say those who thought this all was a smokescreen might not have been "off their meds" as was suggested![/quote]

I would like to recognize CRedskinsRule, 53Fan, and 724Skinsfan. They saw the smoke screen for what it was. Good job guys!

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[quote=Lotus;550457]I am quite sure that that is what happened. Did you see how fast we got the Orakpo card in? We obviously were smitten with HIM. We would not have been willing to sell the farm for Sanchez if we were so happy with the idea of getting Orakpo.[/quote]After intensively studying the Jason Candle Geico ads I really don't think Campbell could pull off that kind of acting.
[IMG]http://misterirrelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jason-candle.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Mattyk72;550476]All that matters is what they told him behind closed doors.[/quote]

Obviously it wasn't anything special considering Campbell came out publicly to tell everyone he wanted a trade if a QB was taken.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;550472]I think it was dumb luck, why alienate your QB in the public for no reason?[/quote]
I doubt they did, in fact, I still hold the belief that after Cutler they told him the basic plan of bluffing, and left it at that. Yeah he might need his ego massaged, but mostly that will be Zorn's job. Remember Zorn BENCHED Hasselback for a year before he played at a pro bowl level. I am sure he can use this to motivate and help JC.

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Man, even when it comes out alright, we still bitch among ourselves about who was right about something that was all speculation.

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[quote=jsarno;550485]Obviously it wasn't anything special considering Campbell came out publicly to tell everyone he wanted a trade if a QB was taken.[/quote]

No he didn't! That was always a rumor without evidence or legs. I'm guessing that VC leaked that rumor.

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[quote=GMScud;550474]Well, what's he supposed to say? "Gosh, we really wanted Sanchez but since we couldn't get him, I guess we'll settle for Orakpo?"

Nice pick for Steve Spagnuolo's new defense in St. Louis with Laurinaitis.[/quote]

But he went further, saying that they had called the 5 teams ahead of us to trade, now I may not agree with doing that, but it certainly is verifiable proof, along with the speed of the pick, to say yes this IS who we really wanted.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;550472]I think it was dumb luck, why alienate your QB in the public for no reason?[/quote]

Campbell holds the cards now. He'll be a FA next year and will surely stick it to ol' Danny boy if they decide to FINALLY resign him. Shitty (and old) Qb's like Delhomme are getting paid BIG bucks so Campbell should get much more, if not from us, from another team.
I'm sure our FO is going to try to spin this (it did work) for the best but I think they cut Campbell pretty deep. First Cutler then Sanchez. How much disrespect can a guy take?