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Ruhskins 09-27-2009 08:20 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=GTripp0012;597678]I guess there are about three different lenses at which you can look at Campbell's development. In one light, he hasn't progressed as well as he probably could have under ideal conditions. On a second hand, the improvement has been steady and consistent. On a third, nothing Campbell has done could overcome overall offensive ineptitude.

And yeah, Campbell contributed to the problems today. He also had the kind of day throwing a football against the Lions defense that you would expect from a good QB.

But I wonder, if we can't win with Jason Campbell, exactly how do we win without him? Draft a quarterback and hope to get lucky? It's not like Sanchez would be anything but 1-2 here.[/quote]

We trade Moss for Michael Bush and he singlehandedly wins the rest of the games. LOL.

Pocket$ $traight 09-27-2009 08:21 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;597683]We trade Moss for Michael Bush and he singlehandedly wins the rest of the games. LOL.[/quote]


Only if he gets to call the plays.

SFREDSKIN 09-27-2009 08:22 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;597677]So, how is Michael Bush going to run with no offensive line?[/quote]

When did all of a sudden our OL became the running game problem? Portis keeps running into OL and is looking slow (bone spurs in both ankles) we are not getting any younger at RB and we will need a replacement soon. My point is strike while the iron is hot, Moss had a good game today but has struggled, Bush is young and the type of runner that the skins have always had back in the Gibbs days. BIG and POWERFUL.

MPNRedskins 09-27-2009 08:25 PM

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For me, "Now What" means I make the painful decision to stop cheering for this joke of a team. I'm tired of putting my faith into a team who doesn't seem to give a crap. Maybe one day in the future (way future) I'll come back and cheer for the Skins, but not anytime soon. I'm off to join the Purple and Black. Let's Go Ravens!!!!!!! Screw the Redskins!!!! :rant:

T.O.Killa 09-27-2009 08:25 PM

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I am thinking maybe we should not have been so opposed to Fossil. I would have loved to see what GW, would have done.

SFREDSKIN 09-27-2009 08:25 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=Ruhskins;597683]We trade Moss for Michael Bush and he singlehandedly wins the rest of the games. LOL.[/quote]

Yeah, kind of like the 53 million dollar man D. Hall.

BigHairedAristocrat 09-27-2009 08:27 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;597004]Can't fire Zorn unless you are ready to toss in the towel on the entire season.[/quote]

not if you hire holmgren. he could take over and within a week be running this team better than zorn

Ruhskins 09-27-2009 08:31 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;597692]Yeah, kind of like the 53 million dollar man D. Hall.[/quote]

Dude, just let it go with D. Hall, he's far from being the problem for this team. Well I'm sure in your eyes he is the sole reason we lost this game.

SBXVII 09-27-2009 08:31 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=GTripp0012;597678]I guess there are about three different lenses at which you can look at Campbell's development. In one light, he hasn't progressed as well as he probably could have under ideal conditions. On a second hand, the improvement has been steady and consistent. On a third, nothing Campbell has done could overcome overall offensive ineptitude.

And yeah, Campbell contributed to the problems today. He also had the kind of day throwing a football against the Lions defense that you would expect from a good QB.

But I wonder, if we can't win with Jason Campbell, exactly how do we win without him? Draft a quarterback and hope to get lucky? It's not like Sanchez would be anything but 1-2 here.[/quote]

That was a good explaination with out going into detail. I don't know what the team should do QB wise. Honestly I doubt any team would have picked him up during the draft he came out of. We just happened to be looking at Carlos and the team pointed out JC. Gibbs or ASaunders saw something in JC. but having said that he's not a Manning, Brees, Sanchez, or any of the other top named top ranked QB's. I don't care about the numbers and statistics. There all happy and pretty to look at but it fails to show the character, ability, and smarts of the QB.

So in the end yes maybe drafting a top named QB that is trainable and put in the best possible situation would be nice. Like what Baltimore, Atlanta, Jets, and Detroit has done. Instead we pick up Ramsey and let him be the punching bag for a few yrs. Then we pick up JC and change offenses every other yr and thats just two, I didn't mention all the other prior. We always seem to hope for the diamond in the rough cause they are cheap.

Stacks42 09-27-2009 08:34 PM

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we can hope the Cowboys lose tomorrow night so we are both 1-2. Thats all i can look forward to. I am dreading tomorrow at work, I work with 5 Giants fans.

MTK 09-27-2009 08:34 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;597696]not if you hire holmgren. he could take over and within a week be running this team better than zorn[/quote]

Holmgren's not a miracle worker. Any HC needs a reasonable amount of time to install his system. Head coach transitions aren't that easy in this league.

SBXVII 09-27-2009 08:35 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;597699]Dude, just let it go with D. Hall, he's far from being the problem for this team. Well I'm sure in your eyes he is the sole reason we lost this game.[/quote]

It's definitly not Halls fault. We go from one of the most confusing defenses to lets get as simple as possible. Well now you see the results of lets get as simple as possible. or maybe it's the 4-3 that a lot of teams are getting away from.

44Deezel 09-27-2009 08:36 PM

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[quote=Stacks42;597705]we can hope the Cowboys lose tomorrow night so we are both 1-2. Thats all i can look forward to. I am dreading tomorrow at work, I work with 5 Giants fans.[/quote]

Not a good time to be a Skins fan.

SmootSmack 09-27-2009 08:37 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[B]Bring Marty Back as President[/B]

The myth is that Snyder was upset that Marty wouldn't let him get involved in player personnel decisions. The reality is that Snyder thought being coach and general manager was too much for Marty to handle and wanted him to just focus one area. Back then Marty didn't want that, but now he has said he's only interested in a front office position. Plus, the Hall of Famers that had issues with Schott before are gone now. Snyder and Marty get along pretty well now, and I wouldn't be surprised if they reunited. I'd move Cerrato out of football operations immediately and bring in Marty as "consultant" now (thought about Carl Peterson because he's available) and then official name him President (aka "Bill Parcells") as soon as the season is done.

I don't think VC is the satanic buffoon many think he is, or that Snyder is "micro-managing." In fact, things won't be much different in terms of Snyder's involvement whoever is the new person in charge. But perception is reality, and if the fans perceive that Snyder isn't involved because Cerrato isn't there, then they'll believe that's true

[B]Hire Reggie McKenzie or Bill Kuharich as General Manager[/B]

Reggie (Raleigh's twin) has done a good job in Green Bay and Bill Kuharich did a nice job with the previous few drafts in KC before he was let go when Pioli came on board. There are other good candidates but I'd look to these two guys first. I'd let Scott Campbell and Mo Brown go as well, again because of the connection to Cerrato and the whole perception is reality thing. I think both are strong talent evaluators but they will have to find their success elsewhere.

[B]Hire Russ Grimm as Head Coach[/B]

Zorn is a lame duck, to be sure. But I wouldn't just jump at someone like Shanahan right away. Just finish the season with Zorn, and then do what some team should have done long ago (but has been afraid to for various reasons), name Russ Grimm as head coach. Good public relations move, and he's a strong head coach candidate. When you look around the NFL you see so many players/front office people from the Redskins glory decade of the 80s-Mayhew: GM Lions, Doug Williams: Front Office Exec Tampa, Mark Murphy: President Packers; Billy Devaney: GM Rams and so on-that it's a shame our only connection is Joe Bugel (and I guess Don Warren)

[B]Name Bob Bratkowski Assistant Head Coach[/B]

The coaching problem isn't isolated to just Zorn, it's that his support staff (Smith, Stump, Meidt, Watchamacallit) is woefully inexperienced as well. Grimm has experience that even Zorn didn't have but he could benefit from having an experienced play caller to support him. Look at other first time coaches-Harbaugh (has Cam Cameron); Sparano (has Dan Henning); Mike Smith (Mularkey)-all have proven coordinators

[B]Name Kirk Olivadotti Defensive Coordinator[/B]

Why not?

roth74va 09-27-2009 08:37 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;597706]Holmgren's not a miracle worker. Any HC needs a reasonable amount of time to install his system. Head coach transitions aren't that easy in this league.[/quote]

Agreed, but Holmgren's(Gruden's IMO) short work would still equal ALOT more than Zorn has accomplished here in the last 2 years. Picking another coach with WCO background could help speed up the process as well.

SBXVII 09-27-2009 08:38 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;597706]Holmgren's not a miracle worker. Any HC needs a reasonable amount of time to install his system. Head coach transitions aren't that easy in this league.[/quote]

Which is why I would only use him to advise DS and Zorn. Now if Holmgren gets things changed around then maybe offer him the job or at the least fire Vinny and hire Holmgren in that position. He can bring in people who would work well in the WCO and still advise Zorn. If it doesn't straighten out shit can everyone and start rebuilding.

44Deezel 09-27-2009 08:39 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;597706]Holmgren's not a miracle worker. Any HC needs a reasonable amount of time to install his system. Head coach transitions aren't that easy in this league.[/quote]

Seriously. Look how discombobulated the Jets, Falcons and Ravens are. We don't want that mess around here. Oh wait, I almost forgot about the Dolphins last year. What a disaster that was. And let's not forget about the abysmall Sean Peyton/Drew Brees experiment. What a train wreck that was.

roth74va 09-27-2009 08:39 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;597713][B]Name Kirk Olivadotti Defensive Coordinator[/B]

Why not?[/quote]

Because like you just said....he lacks the necessary experience. Why would we want another guy learning as he goes? F that!

44Deezel 09-27-2009 08:42 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=SmootSmack;597713][B]Bring Marty Back as President[/B]

The myth is that Snyder was upset that Marty wouldn't let him get involved in player personnel decisions. The reality is that Snyder thought being coach and general manager was too much for Marty to handle and wanted him to just focus one area. Back then Marty didn't want that, but now he has said he's only interested in a front office position. Plus, the Hall of Famers that had issues with Schott before are gone now. Snyder and Marty get along pretty well now, and I wouldn't be surprised if they reunited. I'd move Cerrato out of football operations immediately and bring in Marty as "consultant" now (thought about Carl Peterson because he's available) and then official name him President (aka "Bill Parcells") as soon as the season is done.

I don't think VC is the satanic buffoon many think he is, or that Snyder is "micro-managing." In fact, things won't be much different in terms of Snyder's involvement whoever is the new person in charge. But perception is reality, and if the fans perceive that Snyder isn't involved because Cerrato isn't there, then they'll believe that's true

[B]Hire Reggie McKenzie or Bill Kuharich as General Manager[/B]

Reggie (Raleigh's twin) has done a good job in Green Bay and Bill Kuharich did a nice job with the previous few drafts in KC before he was let go when Pioli came on board. There are other good candidates but I'd look to these two guys first. I'd let Scott Campbell and Mo Brown go as well, again because of the connection to Cerrato and the whole perception is reality thing. I think both are strong talent evaluators but they will have to find their success elsewhere.

[B]Hire Russ Grimm as Head Coach[/B]

Zorn is a lame duck, to be sure. But I wouldn't just jump at someone like Shanahan right away. Just finish the season with Zorn, and then do what some team should have done long ago (but has been afraid to for various reasons), name Russ Grimm as head coach. Good public relations move, and he's a strong head coach candidate. When you look around the NFL you see so many players/front office people from the Redskins glory decade of the 80s-Mayhew: GM Lions, Doug Williams: Front Office Exec Tampa, Mark Murphy: President Packers; Billy Devaney: GM Rams and so on-that it's a shame our only connection is Joe Bugel (and I guess Don Warren)

[B}Name Bob Bratkowski Assistant Head Coach[/B]

The coaching problem isn't isolated to just Zorn, it's that his support staff (Smith, Stump, Meidt, Watchamacallit) is woefully inexperienced as well. Grimm has experience that even Zorn didn't have but he could benefit from having an experienced play caller to support him. Look at other first time coaches-Harbaugh (has Cam Cameron); Sparano (has Dan Henning); Mike Smith (Mularkey)-all have proven coordinators

[B]Name Kirk Olivadotti Defensive Coordinator[/B]

Why not?[/quote]

I like the idea of Grimm as HC and have for a while. Or Cowher. I don't like Shanny. The NFC East requires someone who knows how to play smash mouth football, and I don't think Shanahan fits that bill. Besides, he only won with one of the greatest QB/RB tandems in NFL history. Don't see that kind of talent walking through the door hear anytime soon.

Ruhskins 09-27-2009 08:42 PM

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[quote=44Deezel;597717]Seriously. Look how discombobulated the Jets, Falcons and Ravens are. We don't want that mess around here. Oh wait, I almost forgot about the Dolphins last year. What a disaster that was. And let's not forget about the abysmall Sean Peyton/Drew Brees experiment. What a train wreck that was.[/quote]

I think those teams had new coaches put in during the offseason, not in the early part of the regular season.

pg86 09-27-2009 08:43 PM

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[quote=44Deezel;597717]Seriously. Look how discombobulated the Jets, Falcons and Ravens are. We don't want that mess around here. Oh wait, I almost forgot about the Dolphins last year. What a disaster that was. And let's not forget about the abysmall Sean Peyton/Drew Brees experiment. What a train wreck that was.[/quote]


OMG i just got what you meant by that I love ya man No homo lol Always keepin it funny in here

44Deezel 09-27-2009 08:44 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;597642]LOL. The way people complain about JC, you'd think he put up Russell's numbers 12-21, 61 yds, 0 tds, 2ints[/quote]

It's not the stats they have in common. It's the fact that they will both be back-ups next year. They'll both be forgotten in a couple of years.

CRedskinsRule 09-27-2009 08:45 PM

Re: Now What??
 
I really wonder if there is any way Holmgren would come on as a special advisor.

BigHairedAristocrat 09-27-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=Mattyk72;597706]Holmgren's not a miracle worker. Any HC needs a reasonable amount of time to install his system. Head coach transitions aren't that easy in this league.[/quote]

but holmgren does run the same system so he is uniquely equipped to step in immediately. this team has too much talent to be handicapped by a guy like zorn who's learning on the job

724Skinsfan 09-27-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Now What??
 
I don't know, either that or you've gotta give JC more opportunities to call his own plays from the huddle.

I think firing anybody is too much of a knee jerk reaction. I'm slowly coming around to giving Collins a shot, not so much to see if HE is our answer but more so to determine if JC is definitely not. Collins could go in maybe at halftime of the TB game if JC is not putting points on the board (I say 14, at least) by then. If he somehow looks to be a little more efficient then give him command the following Sunday and see what happens.

One more thing, Zorn/Snyder/Cerrato/whoever needs to talk to Blache and say you're doing something wrong--fix it by the end of the BYE week! If Blache refuses to change whatever it is that is keeping the other teams offense on the field 8 minutes at a time he needs to go.

Ruhskins 09-27-2009 08:46 PM

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[quote=44Deezel;597728]It's not the stats they have in common. It's the fact that they will both be back-ups next year. They'll both be forgotten in a couple of years.[/quote]

I wish Jason Campbell had JaMarcus Russell's numbers, so people like you had a reason to complain.

SBXVII 09-27-2009 08:52 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=SmootSmack;597713][B]Bring Marty Back as President[/B]

The myth is that Snyder was upset that Marty wouldn't let him get involved in player personnel decisions. The reality is that Snyder thought being coach and general manager was too much for Marty to handle and wanted him to just focus one area. Back then Marty didn't want that, but now he has said he's only interested in a front office position. Plus, the Hall of Famers that had issues with Schott before are gone now. Snyder and Marty get along pretty well now, and I wouldn't be surprised if they reunited. I'd move Cerrato out of football operations immediately and bring in Marty as "consultant" now (thought about Carl Peterson because he's available) and then official name him President (aka "Bill Parcells") as soon as the season is done.

I don't think VC is the satanic buffoon many think he is, or that Snyder is "micro-managing." In fact, things won't be much different in terms of Snyder's involvement whoever is the new person in charge. But perception is reality, and if the fans perceive that Snyder isn't involved because Cerrato isn't there, then they'll believe that's true

[B]Hire Reggie McKenzie or Bill Kuharich as General Manager[/B]

Reggie (Raleigh's twin) has done a good job in Green Bay and Bill Kuharich did a nice job with the previous few drafts in KC before he was let go when Pioli came on board. There are other good candidates but I'd look to these two guys first. I'd let Scott Campbell and Mo Brown go as well, again because of the connection to Cerrato and the whole perception is reality thing. I think both are strong talent evaluators but they will have to find their success elsewhere.

[B]Hire Russ Grimm as Head Coach[/B]

Zorn is a lame duck, to be sure. But I wouldn't just jump at someone like Shanahan right away. Just finish the season with Zorn, and then do what some team should have done long ago (but has been afraid to for various reasons), name Russ Grimm as head coach. Good public relations move, and he's a strong head coach candidate. When you look around the NFL you see so many players/front office people from the Redskins glory decade of the 80s-Mayhew: GM Lions, Doug Williams: Front Office Exec Tampa, Mark Murphy: President Packers; Billy Devaney: GM Rams and so on-that it's a shame our only connection is Joe Bugel (and I guess Don Warren)

[B}Name Bob Bratkowski Assistant Head Coach[/b]

The coaching problem isn't isolated to just Zorn, it's that his support staff (Smith, Stump, Meidt, Watchamacallit) is woefully inexperienced as well. Grimm has experience that even Zorn didn't have but he could benefit from having an experienced play caller to support him. Look at other first time coaches-Harbaugh (has Cam Cameron); Sparano (has Dan Henning); Mike Smith (Mularkey)-all have proven coordinators

[B]Name Kirk Olivadotti Defensive Coordinator[/B]

Why not?[/quote]

Not bad ideas. I just wonder how Marty would do with Zorn and the WCO? I just wonder what DS is going to do. Zorn is a nice guy and apparently been able to talk his way into a HCing job. Now we see the results of this expierment. I hope DS is using this time wisely. Maybe make Marty GM and look into hiring his son as HC? I don't know but DS has several months to speak with people and find another HC for next yr instead of being pushed into a corner and scrambling at the last minute. Maybe make the new HC the highest paid HC again and add some extra bait. I don't know what but get someone who knows what the hell they are doing.

Trample the Elderly 09-27-2009 08:53 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;597071]Can't say I'm surprised.

I could have told you after the giants game that we weren't going to be competitive this year. The rams game just affirmed it. This lions game just showed it.

I'd be more upset if I already didn't see this coming.[/quote]

Agreed, this isn't a big surprise.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-27-2009 08:54 PM

Re: Now What??
 
JC calling plays= 2 td
Dany smith = 1 td
Jim Zorn = 1 td.

Jason has called the plays on half of the scoring drives this year.

44Deezel 09-27-2009 08:56 PM

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[quote=Green1;597593]I still think the D is the strength of our team. Look at the first 2 weeks if the O scores 20-25 points and keeps the d off the field so much we are 3-0[/quote]

I agree. Look at the Ravens and Steelers. Even they're giving up points, the Ravens especially (maybe not today). The rules overwhelmingly favor the Offense, so it's unreasonable to ask the Defense to pitch shut outs every week. They gave up 13 points today and another 7 on a very questionable pass interference call. At some point, our Offense has to score points and get a lead on someone.

Our D would play much better if the opposing team was behind for once and had to be one-dimensional in order to pass their way back into the game. It's like when Collins came in a few years ago and started moving the Offense up and down the field. The O line blocked better, the Receivers played better, the RBs ran better and the Defense played better. And yes, I'm advocating a change at the QB position. Campbell's stats are fine, but he is paid to put points on the board and win games. Time for a change.

Trample the Elderly 09-27-2009 08:57 PM

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[quote=GMScud;597108]I'd like to see Trevor Matich kick Blache's ass right about now.[/quote]

Yup! I think Blache talked a lot of shit without backing it up.

44Deezel 09-27-2009 08:59 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;597741]JC calling plays= 2 td
Dany smith = 1 td
Jim Zorn = 1 td.

Jason has called the plays on half of the scoring drives this year.[/quote]

I have a great idea. Let's make JC the coach and bring in a quality QB who knows how to get his team in the end zone when it's not garbage time. Preferably someone who can throw a fade pass and keep the ball in-bounds and someone who can sense a pass rush before it's up his ass. Ideally, someone who can actually take a few steps in the pocket and still throw with at least a little accuracy.

Ruhskins 09-27-2009 09:02 PM

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[quote=44Deezel;597744]I agree. Look at the Ravens and Steelers. Even they're giving up points, the Ravens especially (maybe not today). The rules overwhelmingly favor the Offense, so it's unreasonable to ask the Defense to pitch shut outs every week. They gave up 13 points today and another 7 on a very questionable pass interference call. At some point, our Offense has to score points and get a lead on someone.[/quote]

Last year the Ravens and Titans were pretty much winning games for their teams, and they had very little offense (now the Ravens are pretty much a complete team). Last week, the Giants D kept their offense in the game, and their defense has scored points. With as much money as the team has spent on the defense, you expect them to be the stronger unit and winning games.

[quote=44Deezel;597744]Our D would play much better if the opposing team was behind for once and had to be one-dimensional in order to pass their way back into the game. It's like when Collins came in a few years ago and started moving the Offense up and down the field. The O line blocked better, the Receivers played better, the RBs ran better and the Defense played better. [B]And yes, I'm advocating a change at the QB position. Campbell's stats are fine, but he is paid to put points on the board and win games. Time for a change[/B].[/quote]

When your QB throws for over 300 yds and 2 TDs, and loses the game, there's something wrong with the team. You are obviously not a fan of Campbell and just say that. When he throws for 60 yds and two or three picks, then you can call for a QB change.

pg86 09-27-2009 09:03 PM

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Someone told me to work on my confidence boosters earlier...Here's an attempt...


The superbowl champs lost to the Bengals today

Trample the Elderly 09-27-2009 09:04 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=SmootSmack;597713][B]Bring Marty Back as President[/B]

The myth is that Snyder was upset that Marty wouldn't let him get involved in player personnel decisions. The reality is that Snyder thought being coach and general manager was too much for Marty to handle and wanted him to just focus one area. Back then Marty didn't want that, but now he has said he's only interested in a front office position. Plus, the Hall of Famers that had issues with Schott before are gone now. Snyder and Marty get along pretty well now, and I wouldn't be surprised if they reunited. I'd move Cerrato out of football operations immediately and bring in Marty as "consultant" now (thought about Carl Peterson because he's available) and then official name him President (aka "Bill Parcells") as soon as the season is done.

I don't think VC is the satanic buffoon many think he is, or that Snyder is "micro-managing." In fact, things won't be much different in terms of Snyder's involvement whoever is the new person in charge. But perception is reality, and if the fans perceive that Snyder isn't involved because Cerrato isn't there, then they'll believe that's true

[B]Hire Reggie McKenzie or Bill Kuharich as General Manager[/B]

Reggie (Raleigh's twin) has done a good job in Green Bay and Bill Kuharich did a nice job with the previous few drafts in KC before he was let go when Pioli came on board. There are other good candidates but I'd look to these two guys first. I'd let Scott Campbell and Mo Brown go as well, again because of the connection to Cerrato and the whole perception is reality thing. I think both are strong talent evaluators but they will have to find their success elsewhere.

[B]Hire Russ Grimm as Head Coach[/B]

Zorn is a lame duck, to be sure. But I wouldn't just jump at someone like Shanahan right away. Just finish the season with Zorn, and then do what some team should have done long ago (but has been afraid to for various reasons), name Russ Grimm as head coach. Good public relations move, and he's a strong head coach candidate. When you look around the NFL you see so many players/front office people from the Redskins glory decade of the 80s-Mayhew: GM Lions, Doug Williams: Front Office Exec Tampa, Mark Murphy: President Packers; Billy Devaney: GM Rams and so on-that it's a shame our only connection is Joe Bugel (and I guess Don Warren)

[B}Name Bob Bratkowski Assistant Head Coach[/B]

The coaching problem isn't isolated to just Zorn, it's that his support staff (Smith, Stump, Meidt, Watchamacallit) is woefully inexperienced as well. Grimm has experience that even Zorn didn't have but he could benefit from having an experienced play caller to support him. Look at other first time coaches-Harbaugh (has Cam Cameron); Sparano (has Dan Henning); Mike Smith (Mularkey)-all have proven coordinators

[B]Name Kirk Olivadotti Defensive Coordinator[/B]

Why not?[/quote]

That makes way too much sense to ever happen.

Beemnseven 09-27-2009 09:09 PM

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[quote=pg86]... what are the odds they come out next week and Take Tampa bay to the woodshed?[/quote]

[quote=SBXVII;597458]and this is where the blind faith/hope starts all over again....game after game. Good luck with your emotions.[/quote]

Exactly. We said they would do the same thing to the Rams after the Giants game ... then we said they'd take the Lions to the woodshed ... now we'll take the Bucs to the woodshed ...

It would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic. This team doesn't have the paddles to take any team to the woodshed.

44Deezel 09-27-2009 09:09 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;597732]I wish Jason Campbell had JaMarcus Russell's numbers, so people like you had a reason to complain.[/quote]

Points and wins are the only stats that matter. Ramsey had some nice stats while he was here. Hell, Brunell statted his way to a record against the Texans. But I actually think it's kind of cute that you keep defending JC. Sad and demented, but cute. And you'll have plenty to complain about next year when Campbell is backing up a rookie QB somewhere. Until then, keep taking comfort in those gaudy stats that seem to keep piling up only after the Skins are down by 2 TDs.

SmootSmack 09-27-2009 09:12 PM

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[quote=roth74va;597718]Because like you just said....he lacks the necessary experience. Why would we want another guy learning as he goes? F that![/quote]

I know, it was time to eat dinner so I had to just finish my post right away :)

I would give him more responsibility though

pg86 09-27-2009 09:12 PM

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[quote=44Deezel;597756]Points and wins are the only stats that matter. Ramsey had some nice stats while he was here. Hell, Brunell statted his way to a record against the Texans. But I actually think it's kind of cute that you keep defending JC. Sad and demented, but cute. And you'll have plenty to complain about next year when Campbell is backing up a rookie QB somewhere. Until then, keep taking comfort in those gaudy stats that seem to keep piling up only after the Skins are down by 2 TDs.[/quote]


More truth from you...*bows*

SBXVII 09-27-2009 09:12 PM

Re: Now What??
 
GTripp, I would like to apologize to you. I was trying to be funny when I said you would come on here and everyone would be happy again with hope. I was not trying to poke fun at you although it sounds like I am. You do good work in your reviews of what the team is doing. I just was thinking that with your positive reviews some people get hope that things will change and this week they didn't. I was just trying to make a joke that we might see this again, and yes it was a piss poor joke so I apologize.


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