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[quote=CantonLegend;623149]im only 28....im not a dinosaur....in fact.....i welcome almost all the new things the NFL offers such as celebrating, bringing signs onto the field, signing balls and calling people after you score....dancing with teammates and using the ball as props

i have no problem with players being black or white.....i dont care what color you are.....if you can play then you can play....regardless of skin color

but history has shown that not only are you completely lost in your judgment of what is and is not racist, you have no idea which race dominates sports in nearly every country

football is 70% black
basketball is 80% black
baseball is 8.2% black due largely to the lack of baseball fields available to inner city schools.....which are made up of mostly blacks

24 of the 32 picks in the first round of the 2009 NFL draft were black....if you translate that to the entire league that equates to 75% of players in the league being black which is pretty close considering the actual number is 70%

[B]it cant get any more scientific than those numbers[/B].....what more do you want? you may not see colors but the rest of the world does and the rest of the world realizes blacks are just better....thats life[/quote]

Actually you can get much more scientific than those numbers. All you've done is cherry pick anecdotal data and view them through a racist's lens. You have virtually no science at all, just racist opinions.

The reason I called you a dinosaur was not because of your chronological age. It was because your views on race are old-timey and not in a good way.

Racism such as yours is as unethical as it is unintelligent.

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[quote=Lotus;623165]Actually you can get much more scientific than those numbers. All you've done is cherry pick anecdotal data and view them through a racist's lens. You have virtually no science at all, just racist opinions.

The reason I called you a dinosaur was not because of your chronological age. It was because your views on race are old-timey and not in a good way.

Racism such as yours is as unethical as it is unintelligent.[/quote]

you are the type of person that would be offended if i referred to drew brees as breesus christ

its frustrating to talk to people like you because you try to be so politically correct that it ruins a good conversation, joke, comment, post, thread, etc

im trying to prove my point but for some reason you dont like what ive presented you....so rather than call me racist over and over how about you give me a reason why i am racist rather than just calling me it......what more can i show you to prove that blacks are generally superior athletes

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[quote=CantonLegend;623177][B]you are the type of person that would be offended if i referred to drew brees as breesus christ[/B]

its frustrating to talk to people like you because you try to be so politically correct that it ruins a good conversation, joke, comment, post, thread, etc

im trying to prove my point but for some reason you dont like what ive presented you....so rather than call me racist over and over how about you give me a reason why i am racist rather than just calling me it......what more can i show you to prove that blacks are generally superior athletes[/quote]

Actually, that'd be skinsnut.

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[quote=CantonLegend;623177]you are the type of person that would be offended if i referred to drew brees as breesus christ

its frustrating to talk to people like you because you try to be so politically correct that it ruins a good conversation, joke, comment, post, thread, etc

im trying to prove my point but for some reason you dont like what ive presented you....so rather than call me racist over and over how about you give me a reason why i am racist rather than just calling me it......[B]what more can i show you to prove that blacks are generally superior athletes[/B][/quote]

You said:
"what more can i show you to prove that blacks are generally superior athletes"

The Oxford English Dictionary describes "racism" thus:
"The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race."

Get why I am calling you a racist now? It's not hard to understand.

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[quote=Ruhskins;623150]I think you can find a good RB in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th rounds. I mean the Cowgirls found Tashard Choice in the 4th round. It would have been nice to have picked one up, [B]too bad the team is too worried about what CP will think[/B].[/quote]

get him a good returement plan cause he is done, just sucks he was hurt some much this year and didn't produce we won't get anything for him

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[quote=Lotus;623183]You said:
"what more can i show you to prove that blacks are generally superior athletes"

The Oxford English Dictionary describes "racism" thus:
"The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race."

Get why I am calling you a racist now? It's not hard to understand.[/quote]

you went from talking about our draft picks to talking about whether blacks are more athletic to talking about which posters are racist

pick your argument

i was aruing that black players are almost always better athletes.....you are arguing that im racist.....not because im wrong, but because you cant prove that im wrong.....dont change the argument.....it doesnt matter if im racist by definition or not.....racism is different in everybodies eyes and you cant always go by one definition or the other......the fact is that black athletes are better and you will never prove that wrong, no matter how hard you try to change the subject

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[quote=Lotus;623127]It definitely does require a scientific study because your "logic and common sense" only make sense to a racist. Your "common sense" is irrelevant to me because I do not see WHITE players and BLACK players, I just see players.

Above I posted a definition of racism. Your arguments continue to fit that definition. Please man up and admit it.[/quote]

No, you are, pardon my french, an idiot. I don't consider anything I said as racist. Its pretty damn accurate if you ask me. All I said was there are no good white running backs in todays NFL. And of course you go off looking to make an arguement since you so depressed that our team is sucking, and call me racist by the terms of one dictionary article, which isn't all that accurate with todays term of someone being racist. And your being chewed out by other people on this thread, who are proving you wrong. But by all means keep this going, or shut up and talk about Who you would pick in the 2010 draft, which is what I keep on trying to do, but your little comments are keeping me back just to prove you wrong.

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is any of this relevant to the draft,board, or the Skins? i dont care if the dude is freakin purple as long as he can help the team.

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[quote=CantonLegend;623201]you went from talking about our draft picks to talking about whether blacks are more athletic to talking about which posters are racist

pick your argument

i was aruing that black players are almost always better athletes.....you are arguing that im racist.....not because im wrong, but because you cant prove that im wrong.....dont change the argument.....it doesnt matter if im racist by definition or not.....racism is different in everybodies eyes and you cant always go by one definition or the other......the fact is that black athletes are better and you will never prove that wrong, no matter how hard you try to change the subject[/quote]

You are the worst kind of racist - one who is not man enough to own up and admit that you are a racist.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;623210]No, you are, pardon my french, an idiot. I don't consider anything I said as racist. Its pretty damn accurate if you ask me. All I said was there are no good white running backs in todays NFL. And of course you go off looking to make an arguement since you so depressed that our team is sucking, and call me racist by the terms of one dictionary article, which isn't all that accurate with todays term of someone being racist. And your being chewed out by other people on this thread, who are proving you wrong. But by all means keep this going, or shut up and talk about Who you would pick in the 2010 draft, which is what I keep on trying to do, but your little comments are keeping me back just to prove you wrong.[/quote]

You are the worst kind of racist - one who is not man enough to own up and admit that you are a racist.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;623211]is any of this relevant to the draft,board, or the Skins? [B]i dont care if the dude is freakin purple as long as he can help the team.[/B][/quote]

I totally agree. Some lame dinosaur racists, however, argued that the best way to draft is based on skin color. Hence the argument.

Back to task, I think we should draft RB Toby Gerhart in later rounds. The guy runs hard and has deceptive speed.

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^what the hell is a dinosaur racist? And I said we shouldn't get a white runningback, I'm totally fine with a white OL or whoever, just not a white runningback. Your changing my words into something I'm not. Someones a little sensitive...

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;623211]is any of this relevant to the draft,board, or the Skins? i dont care if the dude is freakin purple as long as he can help the team.[/quote]

I don't want no purple mofo playing on our team. His purple ass can play for the Ravens or Vikings as far as I'm concerned;)

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I found another guy in the 2010 draft his name is stevenson sylvestor and is an OLB for Utah, he could play in place of orakpo...

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I think most of the problems we're having on offense and defense are due to bad coaching and poor preparation. Right now, I would have to say OL. I don't see any QB in this draft that I consider to be franchise QB. So I would much rather draft an OL, RB, or LB.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;623393]I found another guy in the 2010 draft his name is stevenson sylvestor and is an OLB for Utah, he could play in place of orakpo...[/quote]

I don't see why we haven't brought back Marcus Washington for a modest salary. It's not like we would have needed him to play every game, remember this is the team that got a year out of a much older Randall Godfrey. Lol Vinny, you even find a way to mess up your good draft picks.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;624110]I don't see why we haven't brought back Marcus Washington for a modest salary. It's not like we would have needed him to play every game, remember this is the team that got a year out of a much older Randall Godfrey. [B] Lol Vinny, you even find a way to mess up your good draft picks.[/[/B]QUOTE]

so true, so true

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[quote=Dirtbag359;624110]I don't see why we haven't brought back Marcus Washington for a modest salary. It's not like we would have needed him to play every game, remember this is the team that got a year out of a much older Randall Godfrey. Lol Vinny, you even find a way to mess up your good draft picks.[/quote]
Marcus Mason was cut three times last year from the Redskins, Jets and Ravens. He looks good against third stringers, but there is a reason he cant stay on a roster.

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he said Marcus WASHINGTON.... the linebacker

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start cleaning house now so the new GM and HC can start rebuilding in the draft. trade anyone with value for draft picks and start with the OL and work from there.

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anyone watching the rutgers usf game tonight? i haven't seen him play but have heard a little bit about him, but devin mccourty looks like he could be a solid fs/cb, so far he has been all over the field on d, on punt coverage caused a fumble, and blocked another punt, and it's only half time

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Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be...

Russell Okung (LT) 6'5 305 pounds...

if he is gone then

Charles Brown (LT) or Trent Williams (LT)

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[quote=Hamoskinz;624324]Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be...

Russell Okung (LT) 6'5 305 pounds...

if he is gone then

Charles Brown (LT) or Trent Williams (LT)[/quote]

I agree with you, I haven't seen Charles Brown play but supposedly he's legit. Trent Williams supposedly is supposed to be a RT in the NFL, from some draft reports I've heard. The person above your post is reffering to the Rutgers USF game tonight, and I got another pro prospect, Anthony Davis, LT Rutgers, he did great against Selvie from what I saw tonight.

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I rethought this and now think you take best offense player availible after trying to trade down the first pick for more picks. In that game plan though we need at least 2 picks on the line. And when speaking about the line, I think we need 2 new tackles but one can be a rookie, dont want 2 rookies tackles starting, so the other would be a vet in free agency.

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If theres not a legit QB on our first pick ,OL should be the next option.But if Vinny is our talent evaluator ,it doesnt matter,should just pick whomever Mel Kiper says too.

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Trade down and get more picks. Draft O-line and a running back. Pick up some QB that is due for a while.

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[quote=Lotus;623130]It would be cool to get RB Toby Gerhart in the 4th. That guy can ball.[/quote]

Figured I'd bump this considering Gerhart's dominant performance against USC. I probably wouldn't draft the kid with the intention of making him a full time RB, but he's a heck of a player.

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[quote=GPRedskin;624483]Trade down and get more picks. Draft O-line and a running back. [B]Pick up some QB that is due for a while.[/quote]

[/B]
What exactly does this mean?

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[quote=GMScud;626436]Figured I'd bump this considering Gerhart's dominant performance against USC. I probably wouldn't draft the kid with the intention of making him a full time RB, but he's a heck of a player.[/quote]

Well, I hope the Redskins will take a page out of the successful rushing teams in the league and be sure they have at least a two-RB system next season.

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[quote=Ruhskins;626452]Well, I hope the Redskins will take a page out of the successful rushing teams in the league and be sure they have at least a two-RB system next season.[/quote]

and maybe a solid o line

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[quote=mlmdub130;626464]and maybe a solid o line[/quote]

Most definitely (our first pick should be Russell Okung)...however I was mentioning that picking up a RB in the 4th round would be with the intention of bring that young player into a two or three running back system.

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[quote=Lotus;623349]You are the worst kind of racist - one who is not man enough to own up and admit that you are a racist.[/quote]

sorry but i found a hilarious picture in search of responses to some other posts so i felt obligated to share it with you

[img]http://north.geeklair.net/~ben/frowns.jpg[/img]

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[quote=CantonLegend;630651]sorry but i found a hilarious picture in search of responses to some other posts so i felt obligated to share it with you

[img]http://north.geeklair.net/~ben/frowns.jpg[/img][/quote]

seriously man wtf

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[quote=mlmdub130;630653]seriously man wtf[/quote]

c'mon.....lighten up.....its funny

quit trying to be that guy

dont be the hero just enjoy life bro......the reason everyone is so uptight is because they are always trying to play the good guy and not upset anybody....in reality....everybody got along fine before there was such a thing as being politically correct

its a joke and everybody gets it

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No bro....everyone doesnt think its funny, and its only a joke to you...
This is a redskins football forum, not a forum for idiots....Dont be an idiot....

Its all Redskins football, All the time



[quote=CantonLegend;630654]c'mon.....lighten up.....its funny

quit trying to be that guy

dont be the hero just enjoy life bro......the reason everyone is so uptight is because they are always trying to play the good guy and not upset anybody....in reality....everybody got along fine before there was such a thing as being politically correct

its a joke and everybody gets it[/quote]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;622872]Sure theres exceptions to every sterotype, and I agree that with the OL especially its probably the only position where it doesn't matter what race you are cause they all perform the same. QB I tend to go white, but don't get me wrong there are a lot of black QB's that are or where good. McNabb comes to mind first. But RB is, in our day, a typical black position. Like I said in my original statement name me one good white running back in the NFL. Riggo played in the days when players ran 4.9's and there weren't really any 4.4 speed guys. He played in the days when a 300 lb lineman were a rarity.

And I've seen Gehrhart play and he's a great college guy but not an nfl guy. He's just like jacob hester IMO, and Hesters been pretty lame for the chargers so I say save this pick for an OLman[/quote]

wow, that is probably one of the most racist things I have read on this forum. Do us a favor and open your mind a little.

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[quote]Figured I'd bump this considering Gerhart's dominant performance against USC. I probably wouldn't draft the kid with the intention of making him a full time RB, but he's a heck of a player.[/quote]

Yeah, the Toby Gerhart has a good track record, a a sort of power back with good speed.

But also have you guys seen [B]Dexter McCluster[/B]. He is like Sproles/MJD. Blistering speed and quickness. He has good hands and an excellent KR. Might be worth a shot in a 2 RB system.

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[quote=Hamoskinz;630749]Yeah, the Toby Gerhart has a good track record, a a sort of power back with good speed.

But also have you guys seen [B]Dexter McCluster[/B]. He is like Sproles/MJD. Blistering speed and quickness. He has good hands and an excellent KR. Might be worth a shot in a 2 RB system.[/quote]

Actually it sounds like a good combo. I'm not familiar with McCluster but Gerhart looks pretty good to me. Who does McCluster play for? Does he play for Stanford too?

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[quote=53Fan;630760]Actually it sounds like a good combo. I'm not familiar with McCluster but Gerhart looks pretty good to me. Who does McCluster play for? Does he play for Stanford too?[/quote]

Ole Miss. The guy is quick, but i think he might be a freshman.

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;630742]No bro....everyone doesnt think its funny, and its only a joke to you...
This is a redskins football forum, not a forum for idiots....Dont be an idiot....

Its all Redskins football, All the time[/quote]

i didnt say everyone thinks its funny......i said everybody gets it

you guys are very uptight trying to make sure nobody gets their feelings hurt

you need to relax and understand that you can laugh and its ok to poke fun at people regardless of their race, gender, age, size, and religion

there is a picture going around the saints sites

[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MhRRZn0fCOQ/SrZJJiUDBZI/AAAAAAAAB7U/uVC0GQeYCbY/s400/breesus+christ.jpg[/img]

people get mad and cuss others out because they think its blasphemy......i think thats hilarious because everyone knows god has a sense of humor.....heres your proof

[img]http://carouselcakechic.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/rosie-odonnel2.jpg[/img]

sure there are limits to racism....but if you dont paint someone in a negative way then its all in good fun.....if you are looking down on a group of people like they are lesser then thats racist....but if you make a joke then its fair game.......but you're welcome to keep that stick up your butt


as far as this thread tho.....how do you feel about your WRs?