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[quote=tryfuhl;643335]Is Billick still a gut feeling to you? I definitely would not mind that.

What about Cowher? Seems like there's been NO talk of him.

The whole expect a second big news out of Redskins Park this week in a way makes me think that we didn't land something that we were supposed to... but I'm not so sure that it was Shanahan, I'm suspecting Doug Williams. Either way it makes more sense to wait for the season to end.[/quote]

Gut feeling on Billick.

Second big news? What are you referring to?

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For what its worth:

[url=http://community.kdvr.com/_Source-Blache-Gray-tell-Zorn-they-didnt-interview-for-Skins-job/BLOG/1630474/96399.html]Source: Blache, Gray tell Zorn they didn - FOX 31 U-Report Blog post - Upload photos & video | Free Blog[/url]

To summarize, accoroding to Fox's source:

1. Blache and Grey told Zorn they didn't interview for the skins job.
2. Scott Wachenheim told Zorn he heard Shanahan was a done deal.
3. Everyone hates Clinton Portis.

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That's some serious soap opera drama going on in the locker room right now.

As for CP I think he's almost like a Vinny II. Too close to the owner, he needs to go if only for the impression that true change is underway. Plus to state the obvious, his contract is ridiculous and he's past his prime.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;643354]For what its worth:

[url=http://community.kdvr.com/_Source-Blache-Gray-tell-Zorn-they-didnt-interview-for-Skins-job/BLOG/1630474/96399.html]Source: Blache, Gray tell Zorn they didn - FOX 31 U-Report Blog post - Upload photos & video | Free Blog[/url]

To summarize, accoroding to Fox's source:

1. Blache and Grey told Zorn they didn't interview for the skins job.
2. Scott Wachenheim told Zorn he heard Shanahan was a done deal.
3. Everyone hates Clinton Portis.[/quote]

Ahh. Good ol' Josina (she used to work with Tony McGee if I recall correctly). Josina also provided us with this nugget earlier this year

"An anonymous Redskins coach told Fox 31 in Denver that, "There is definitely a number of us who would love to have him (Vick) play here. I can tell you I would not mind at all."

Lots of speculation there. But anyway, I 100% agree with her on this:

“Too many people were in Jim’s ears. That’s another big problem. If Jason (Campbell) did something bad, you would still be hearing about it on the sidelines way too long; even when the defense was on the field. (Other coaches) would never allow Jim to move on. But when Sherman Lewis came in, that got streamlined a little better.”

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;643354]For what its worth:

[url=http://community.kdvr.com/_Source-Blache-Gray-tell-Zorn-they-didnt-interview-for-Skins-job/BLOG/1630474/96399.html]Source: Blache, Gray tell Zorn they didn - FOX 31 U-Report Blog post - Upload photos & video | Free Blog[/url]

To summarize, accoroding to Fox's source:

1. Blache and Grey told Zorn they didn't interview for the skins job.
2. Scott Wachenheim told Zorn he heard Shanahan was a done deal.
3. Everyone hates Clinton Portis.[/quote]

Man, this is like a soap opera. I believe Blache and Gray and believe that it's all a smokescreen just to have the media speculate about the next coach and get it wrong.

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Blache "betrayed" his mentor Gregg Williams. I wouldn't put it past him to do the same to Zorn. That said, I think both Blache and Grey probably had some sort of conversation with Snyder about taking over the team on an interim basis if Zorn had been fired or quit earlier on in the season.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;643369]Blache "betrayed" his mentor Gregg Williams. I wouldn't put it past him to do the same to Zorn. That said, I think both Blache and Grey probably had some sort of conversation with Snyder about taking over the team on an interim basis if Zorn had been fired or quit earlier on in the season.[/quote]

So is Blache Pontious Pilate? I am innocent of the blood of this just person; see ye to it.

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The media makes it a soap opera, because they don't know yet so they make up stuff in an attempt to get the truth out. When the HC replacement become official we are going to find out that the Skins fllfiled their obligations to the Rooney Rule from the league office and we still will not find out who the minority candidate was, just like when Allen was hired. Some stuff is meant to be confidential and will remain that way.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;643370]So is Blache Pontious Pilate? I am innocent of the blood of this just person; see ye to it.[/quote]

I was thinking more fredo corleone haha

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[quote=SmootSmack;643365]Ahh. Good ol' Josina (she used to work with Tony McGee if I recall correctly). Josina also provided us with this nugget earlier this year

"An anonymous Redskins coach told Fox 31 in Denver that, "There is definitely a number of us who would love to have him (Vick) play here. I can tell you I would not mind at all."

Lots of speculation there. But anyway, I 100% agree with her on this:

“Too many people were in Jim’s ears. That’s another big problem. If Jason (Campbell) did something bad, you would still be hearing about it on the sidelines way too long; even when the defense was on the field. (Other coaches) would never allow Jim to move on. But when Sherman Lewis came in, that got streamlined a little better.”[/quote]

Yea, alot of that seems a little "gossipy." It's hard to get a good read on it when you don't know who it's coming from.

The CP thing is really nothing new. All Skins fans I think can agree that the offense is better now that Lewis is here too.

The Rooney Rule thing is overblown. Do you really think DS would not adhere to the Rooney Rule? Do people out there think he would be that stupid? Come on...it's a little overblown. It's the media looking for an evil story against DS.

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[quote=Mattyk;643361]That's some serious soap opera drama going on in the locker room right now.

As for CP I think he's almost like a Vinny II. Too close to the owner, he needs to go if only for the impression that true change is underway. Plus to state the obvious, his contract is ridiculous and he's past his prime.[/quote]

Well said. I'm ready for a new start. I think Skins fans are ready for a new start.

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[quote=Mattyk;643361]That's some serious soap opera drama going on in the locker room right now.

As for CP I think he's almost like a Vinny II. Too close to the owner, he needs to go if only for the impression that true change is underway. Plus to state the obvious, his contract is ridiculous and he's past his prime.[/quote]


If Shanny comes won't that be a reunion for the two, CP and Shanny. If I recall correctly there was little love lost between the two when CP was shipped off for Champ.

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CP wanted more money in Denver but I'm not sure how much animosity, if any, there was between Shanahan and Portis because of that. Does anyone have the scoop?

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Portis can't be cut soon enough for my taste.

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[quote=Mattyk;643381]CP wanted more money in Denver but I'm not sure how much animosity, if any, there was between Shanahan and Portis because of that. Does anyone have the scoop?[/quote]
I think Shanahan felt he could turn any RB into gold so they cut ties with CP.

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[quote=Mattyk;643381]CP wanted more money in Denver but I'm not sure how much animosity, if any, there was between Shanahan and Portis because of that. Does anyone have the scoop?[/quote]

If I recall correctly, there wasn't any huge animosity. Portis just wanted more money, and Kubiak was the real fan of Portis and the guy who pushed for the Broncos to draft him. Not so much Shanahan

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i cant believe you guys would be happy starting the season with Betts, Cartwright, and any other scrub. i was listening to a syndicated fantasy radio show this morning, and they said the only people that could name the redskins running backs were fans of the team. if Portis is cast off, we need a top caliber replacement.

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[quote=dmek25;643394]i cant believe you guys would be happy starting the season with Betts, Cartwright, and any other scrub. i was listening to a syndicated fantasy radio show this morning, and they said the only people that could name the redskins running backs were fans of the team. if Portis is cast off, we need a top caliber replacement.[/quote]

Our offense is performing just fine without portis. people need to understand that portis is no longer an elite player and he's simply not worth the headaches.

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[quote=dmek25;643394]i cant believe you guys would be happy starting the season with Betts, Cartwright, and any other scrub. i was listening to a syndicated fantasy radio show this morning, and they said the only people that could name the redskins running backs were fans of the team. if Portis is cast off, we need a top caliber replacement.[/quote]

I think the trend with RBs is that you can find a good one from the 2nd round on. Also, successful running teams are now using a system of two or three RBs. So I don't know why should the team stick with Portis.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;643395]Our offense is performing just fine without portis. people need to understand that portis is no longer an elite player and he's simply not worth the headaches.[/quote]


I agree, plus RB's now a days are such flashes in the pan. They wear out so damn quick from the beatings.

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Someone was talking about them announcing that the redskins fulfilled the Rooney rule but wouldnt name the candidate.

Like i said earlier, they said on the TV yesterday during the evening games that the Redskins interviewed Greg Blache for the HC position, thereby satisfying the Rooney Rule.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;643253]I wouldn't discount Gregg Williams as Snyder's Plan B if he's been rebuffed by Snyder, Cowher, Gruden, etc. If I remember correctly, two years ago Snyder wanted Williams, but Vinny and Williams wouldn't work together and Snyder opted to keep Vinny. Now that Vinny's gone, there's no obstacle to Williams returning.

In addition to the names already mentioned, I think Charlie Weiss and Mike Holmgren are possibilities. I really think the chances of Shanahan coming here are slimmer than most people think.[/quote]

Holmgren to the Browns is all but official. I don't think Weis was ever a serious candidate (but I guess you never know)

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[quote=SolidSnake84;643441]Someone was talking about them announcing that the redskins fulfilled the Rooney rule but wouldnt name the candidate.

Like i said earlier, they said on the TV yesterday during the evening games that the Redskins interviewed Greg Blache for the HC position, thereby satisfying the Rooney Rule.[/quote]

i saw on comcast(i think) that the skins had also interviewed jerry gray for the headcoach position

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I know this was brought up several times but I'm bringing it up as a question. Can DS tell Zorn he's moving him from the HCing position to QB coach? I ask because ......

1) Zorn is a good QB coach.
2) DS owes Zorn for one more year, I thought I heard 3 mill.

Lastly and most importantly...
3) "If" Zorn can be demoted cause he's still under contract would he stay on as QB coach collecting 3 mill next year and leave or would he resign leaving DS not to owe him anything?

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we need a major change in the way of thinking in our FO, i hope allen can talk some sense into synder. i know there is hype about getting shannan in here, and he is a proven coach. but i think maybe we should look at a different coach to bring in. bringing in shannan would be what we have been doing, which is bringing in the big name.

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[quote=redskins5044;643788]we need a major change in the way of thinking in our FO, i hope allen can talk some sense into synder. i know there is hype about getting shannan in here, and he is a proven coach. but i think maybe we should look at a different coach to bring in. bringing in shannan would be what we have been doing, which is bringing in the big name.[/quote]

We brought in Zorn and wheres that got us?

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[quote=WaldSkins;643797]We brought in Zorn and wheres that got us?[/quote]


Zorn was not a change in thinking, that was vinny and danny getting a puppet as a coach.

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[quote=WaldSkins;643797]We brought in Zorn and wheres that got us?[/quote]

and Spurrier.

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[quote=SBXVII;643837]and Spurrier.[/quote]

yet again the big name guy.

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[quote=redskins5044;643840]yet again the big name guy.[/quote]

Who do you recommend as our next coach?

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[quote=WaldSkins;643848]Who do you recommend as our next coach?[/quote]

do you want to see a change in they way the skins do things? ever since synder has owned the team he has gone after big name players and coaches here. i want them to get the right coach for the job, not a guy looking for a big payday. maybe a hot coordinator in the league, aka someone who wants to be here to build a team not a paycheck.

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good luck with that!

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schefter just said on espn

"take dallas out of the equationfor mike shanahan it will not happen washing ton however is very much in play"

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Always trust Schefter when it comes to Shanahan

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Well he should come back and help game plan for the chargers game. At least he knows what they like to do and Zorn is an idiot. Don't need him here next year in any capacity.

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[quote=SmootSmack;644272]Always trust Schefter when it comes to Shanahan[/quote]

I'd say always trust him period. He's easily the best insider out there. I'd even go so far as to call him the exact opposite of Florio. However weather anyone agrees with me or not the fact of the matter is that Shannahan and Schefter are close, even wrote a book together.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;644322]I'd say always trust him period. He's easily the best insider out there. I'd even go so far as to call him the exact opposite of Florio. However weather anyone agrees with me or not the fact of the matter is that Shannahan and Schefter are close, even wrote a book together.[/quote]

Agreed, Schefter is the anti-Florio.

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After tonights performance, Mike better take his phone off the hook. This team is at "Expansion Team" level right now. Lots of work ahead.

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[quote=SmootSmack;643337]Gut feeling on Billick.

Second big news? What are you referring to?[/quote]
There were a couple of rumblings about expecting another big thing out of RP this week, but looks like it passed. I didn't think we'd fire Zorn with a few games left anyways.

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[quote=tryfuhl;644370]There were a couple of rumblings about expecting another big thing out of RP this week, but looks like it passed. I didn't think we'd fire Zorn with a few games left anyways.[/quote]

Any chance a firing happening this week? Just wondering if Zorn doesn't get fired this means that Allen is indeed calling the shots and not Snyder (who would typically make a knee jerk decision and fire Zorn after such an embarrassing loss).