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I love everything theyve done so far, not tears shed whatsoever. I really feel like for the first time in years that we are in not good but GREAT hands!

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[quote=GTripp0012;669459]Unbelievably, this is actually the proper time to cite Gus Frerotte being a Redskins quarterback in the future. Consider yourself welcome.[/quote]

What would Minny take for Sage....

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;669470]What would Minny take for Sage....[/quote]

Well you can get Troy Smith for a 5th rounder from Baltimore.

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Gus went 8-3 for Minnesota before getting hurt. Hell he had a better winning percentage than JC did in '08.

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[quote=Ruhskins;669476]Well you can get Troy Smith for a 5th rounder from Baltimore.[/quote]

You know, he was going to be the starter in Baltimore until he got sick and lost all that weight.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;669477]Gus went 8-3 for Minnesota before getting hurt. Hell he had a better winning percentage than JC did in '08.[/quote]

Gus is a Redskin Pro-Bowler!

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;669470]What would Minny take for Sage....[/quote]


Why would you want Sage over Gus? Shoot Gus at least was a starter for us and made the Pro Bowl even in '96.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;669481]Gus is a Redskin Pro-Bowler![/quote]


I know, that is why I asked why would you want Sage over Gus? Start your stud have Gus back him up and let Gus retire a Skin, where he was a starter.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;669484]Why would you want Sage over Gus? Shoot Gus at least was a starter for us and made the Pro Bowl even in '96.[/quote]


Sage had some nasty fantasy games for Kyle. Although, the last time I checked we don't have Andre Johnson...

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[quote=GusFrerotte;669484]Why would you want Sage over Gus? Shoot Gus at least was a starter for us and made the Pro Bowl even in '96.[/quote]

WAIT!!! You mean to tell me that Gus Ferrotte is a pro bowl QB and Fletcher can't even make it, at least initially, as the leading tackler of the decade? I freaking hate the pro bowl.

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[quote=The Goat;669427]Is Jeff Garcia retired? I'd take him over the other possible QBs listed...[/quote]

Now your thinking with your dipstick Jimmy.

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Maybe we should grab Orlovsky. That safety aside, he has a nice release and accuracy.

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This is starting to sound like the drunk thread. :food-smil

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[quote=WaldSkins;669455]He can't be any worse then SBXVII behind our new "super line"[/quote]

True but I was only asking for Vet min.? You know he'll over value himself and ask for a ton of money. I'll be cheaper, just like bad cologne. ;)

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Gotcha. I know it isn't going to happen, but it would be sort of cool if they did bring Gus back for maybe a year or two as a backup and let him retire a Skin. He wasn't the best QB for sure, but he did pretty damn good for being a 7th rounder from Tulsa.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;669428]Very true. We take Bradford or Clausen in the first then that would be the third first round pick in the last decade that should have been spent on a lineman.[/quote]

Yeah, cause we all know teams don't go anywhere unless they have 4 first round OL on the line.

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[quote=Ruhskins;669498]This is starting to sound like the drunk thread. :food-smil[/quote]

Have to have some fun with it. THe thread is pretty much run its course. Plus you know my MO. I need to get my Gus Frerotte references in at some point. This discussion was the perfect setup for that!!!!

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[quote=GusFrerotte;669503]Gotcha. I know it isn't going to happen, but it would be sort of cool if they did bring Gus back for maybe a year or two as a backup and let him retire a Skin. He wasn't the best QB for sure, but he did pretty damn good for being a 7th rounder from Tulsa.[/quote]

Butthead was awesome!

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[quote=SBXVII;669385]You guys piss me off with the "we have to solve the whole offensive OL problems in this years draft or were screwed" mentality. [B]News flash.... it won't be solved in one years draft.[/B]

and...with some fans ideas of getting rid of JC, whome do you expect to be throwing the ball? Colt? Please don't say Pennington. You want to talk about getting rid of old guys and your wanting to bring in old Chad.

I'll give you this Pashos is listed as a Guard on NFL.com but for some reason I thought he was a LT with San Fran. Either way your still wrong about his age... he's only played 5 yrs in the league so obviously we can't go out and pick up Peppers, Rolle, or Dansby since their old also.[/quote]

Bruce Allen was asked if the o-line could be fixed in one year. His answer....yes.

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[quote=SBXVII;669506]Yeah, cause we all know teams don't go anywhere unless they have 4 first round OL on the line.[/quote]

Apparently you've never heard of the 2009 Jets. :doh:

Not 4 first round OLs, but they had two first round OL they drafted (Mangold, Ferguson) and Faneca (picked up in free agency).

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[quote=GusFrerotte;669503]Gotcha. I know it isn't going to happen, but it would be sort of cool if they did bring Gus back for maybe a year or two as a backup and let him retire a Skin. He wasn't the best QB for sure, but he did pretty damn good for being a 7th rounder from Tulsa.[/quote]

Hell make it a party bring back Green and Shuler also.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;669497]Maybe we should grab Orlovsky. That safety aside, he has a nice release and accuracy.[/quote]

Not sure about that. Orlovsky showed some promise here in Detroit early on, but faltered later.

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[quote=SBXVII;669516]Hell make it a party bring back Green and Shuler also.[/quote]

Green had some nice seasons for KC. Shuler can stay home.

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[quote=Ruhskins;669514]Apparently you've never heard of the 2009 Jets. :doh:

Not 4 first round OLs, but they had two first round OL they drafted (Mangold, Ferguson) and Faneca (picked up in free agency).[/quote]

Did I miss something? I thought they picked up Sanchez in 09? I don't doubt the 2 first rounders but that means they had like 3 first round picks. I don't remember them having that.

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Alright, back to reality. Any guesses on the next round of cuts? (after the mini camp)

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[quote=SBXVII;669522]Did I miss something? I thought they picked up Sanchez in 09? I don't doubt the 2 first rounders but that means they had like 3 first round picks. I don't remember them having that.[/quote]

Yes, but they build their lines in their previous two years and only picked up the rookie QB after they had a solid line, and that seemed to work well. So quiet down.

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You know what you guys just don't know the importance of the skill positons.

Next your going to tell me you don't want T.O.

:)

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[quote=SBXVII;669528]You know what you guys just don't know the importance of the skill positons.

Next your going to tell me you don't want T.O.

:)[/quote]

Ok Vinny.

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[quote=SBXVII;669516]Hell make it a party bring back Green and Shuler also.[/quote]


Green probably could still get the job done. I bet he could school Rogers. Why would you want Shuler? That bastard sucked ass and brought the franchise down. People booed his ass and cheered for Gus. A first round QB sucked and the 7th rounder makes the Pro Bowl, who would have dreamed that up?

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[quote=GusFrerotte;669530]Green probably could still get the job done. I bet he could school Rogers. [B]Why would you want Shuler?[/B] That bastard sucked ass and brought the franchise down. People booed his ass and cheered for Gus. A first round QB sucked and the 7th rounder makes the Pro Bowl, who would have dreamed that up?[/quote]

Because he's Vinny Cerrato.

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Darryl Green that is. Trent Green wasn't bad, but I am still partial to Gus.

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[quote=SBXVII;669522]Did I miss something? I thought they picked up Sanchez in 09? I don't doubt the 2 first rounders but that means they had like 3 first round picks. I don't remember them having that.[/quote]
The Jets had 2 first rounders in 2006. They spent the 4th pick on Ferguson and the 29th pick on Mangold.

Cutler was drafted 11th that year, but he played for Vanderbilt, which obviously isn't known for its football program, even though he did have a nice individual accolades of being SEC Offensive Player of the Year and being a part of the all-SEC team.

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[quote=SBXVII;669528]You know what you guys just don't know the importance of the skill positons.

Next your going to tell me you don't want T.O.

:)[/quote]

I may take some heat but I would not be upset if we did exactly what Buffalo did with T.O. last year.

Rent him for one year. He still has some gas left in the tank and he would show Thomas how a pro wide receiver trains.

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[quote=Ruhskins;669525]Yes, but they build their lines in their previous two years and only picked up the rookie QB after they had a solid line, and that seemed to work well. So quiet down.[/quote]

So your banking on the fact that we can pick up OL, OL, OL. Make sure we suck enough in order to place high enough in the 2011 draft in order to pick up a Franchise QB like the Jets did. OK. I got it.

I on the other hand have a bit more faith in Shanahan and doubt we end up anywhere close to the 4-12 season and no where near the top 5 in next years draft. Which means we will have a mediocre QB whether we keep JC or not, Colt, and some aged Vet you guys are wanting. Yeah good idea.

Basically here's the problem, there are a lot more talented OL on the board vs. QB's. There are a lot more OL that could easily be starting almost half way through the draft list of OL. But only about 3 QB's would be worth starting either this year or next. Most would have to be heavily coached up with the intention of being utilized in about 3-4 years. JC will be gone next year. I think he's tired of the BS, plus the owner is tired of the mediocre performance. So we can draft a top notch QB this year, pick up a bunch of OL, and throw the QB on the field next year after he's had a year of learning or we can forgo the position to pick up OL this year when they have the deepest OL draft and pick up a mediocre QB next year since we will be farther down the board and throw him to the fire under an awsome OL. My opinion I'd rather have the QB learning for a year and ready to step in next year when JC leaves, thats if he doesn't get picked up by someone this year.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;669544]I may take some heat but I would not be upset if we did exactly what Buffalo did with T.O. last year.

Rent him for one year. He still has some gas left in the tank and he would show Thomas how a pro wide receiver trains.[/quote]

Rent-a-T.O. LOL.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;669544]I may take some heat but I would not be upset if we did exactly what Buffalo did with T.O. last year.

Rent him for one year. He still has some gas left in the tank and he would show Thomas how a pro wide receiver trains.[/quote]

Plus he has vendettas for Philly and Dallas, I could live with him for 1 year.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;669544]I may take some heat but I would not be upset if we did exactly what Buffalo did with T.O. last year.

Rent him for one year. He still has some gas left in the tank and he would show Thomas how a pro wide receiver trains.[/quote]

T.O may get worked up about the #81 being unofficially retired. After all, didn't Lee Evans or whoever it was gave up #81 to him when he went to Buffalo?

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[quote=SBXVII;669547]So your banking on the fact that we can pick up OL, OL, OL. Make sure we suck enough in order to place high enough in the 2011 draft in order to pick up a Franchise QB like the Jets did. OK. I got it.

I on the other hand have a bit more faith in Shanahan and doubt we end up anywhere close to the 4-12 season and no where near the top 5 in next years draft. Which means we will have a mediocre QB whether we keep JC or not, Colt, and some aged Vet you guys are wanting. Yeah good idea.

Basically here's the problem, there are a lot more talented OL on the board vs. QB's. There are a lot more OL that could easily be starting almost half way through the draft list of OL. But only about 3 QB's would be worth starting either this year or next. Most would have to be heavily coached up with the intention of being utilized in about 3-4 years. JC will be gone next year. I think he's tired of the BS, plus the owner is tired of the mediocre performance. So we can draft a top notch QB this year, pick up a bunch of OL, and throw the QB on the field next year after he's had a year of learning or we can forgo the position to pick up OL this year when they have the deepest OL draft and pick up a mediocre QB next year since we will be farther down the board and throw him to the fire under an awsome OL. My opinion I'd rather have the QB learning for a year and ready to step in next year when JC leaves, thats if he doesn't get picked up by someone this year.[/quote]

Calm down Vinny. I'm not even bothering reading your stuff anymore, so save it.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;669530]Green probably could still get the job done. I bet he could school Rogers. [B]Why would you want Shuler?[/B] That bastard sucked ass and brought the franchise down. People booed his ass and cheered for Gus. A first round QB sucked and the 7th rounder makes the Pro Bowl, who would have dreamed that up?[/quote]

:doh: I can't believe you took me serious.

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[quote=SBXVII;669555]:doh: I can't believe you took me serious.[/quote]

I haven't for this entire thread Vinny.