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i actually thought our preformance wasnt as bad as the ending score with regards to the first team. I thought our first team D played pretty damn well. Offense was shaky...but sh*t it been shaky for the last ten years. I thought Armstrong and Moss played eceptionally well.

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[quote=GMScud;722742]I wonder how many of you who are saying "preseason means nothing" were saying that last weekend when we scored 42 points. And would you be saying that tonight if we were on the winning end of a 23-3 game? During the preseason it's a convenient stance to take when you look like crap.

Me? I'm glad we took one on the chin. The preseason is all about learning what kind of team you've got from the top of the roster to the bottom. A gut check that means nothing come week 1 can't be all that bad. Now coaches will have some shitty film to bust balls over on Monday morning. Use it as a learning tool and move on.[/quote]

I was with the grain of salt crowd. I was thrilled that we did so well but at the same time I realized that

A) We were playing the Bills
and
B) It's Preseason

Re: Redskins vs. Ravens, Pre-Season Game 2, Gameday Thread
 

This is why there are preseasons.

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**** haynesworth

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[quote=tryfuhl;722753]**** haynesworth[/quote]



what he said! :lol:

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[quote=GMScud;722742]I wonder how many of you who are saying "preseason means nothing" were saying that last weekend when we scored 42 points. And would you be saying that tonight if we were on the winning end of a 23-3 game? During the preseason it's a convenient stance to take when you look like crap.

Me? I'm glad we took one on the chin. The preseason is all about learning what kind of team you've got from the top of the roster to the bottom. A gut check that means nothing come week 1 can't be all that bad. Now coaches will have some shitty film to bust balls over on Monday morning. Use it as a learning tool and move on.[/quote]

I will admit to saying that we looked very prepared for football last week. This week we got our asses handed to us. If you look at the game though it was really 1 special teams play that separated us from the Ravens in the first half.

Yeagh our pass pro was shakey but the Ravens Blitz packages were something that the Bills couldn't provide. We got some good work tonight.

The 3rd game as you know we will actually game plan for and will give us a better indication of where we are. I was comfortable last week but not over confident. I am not worried after tonight. Ask me after the 3rd quarter next week and I will let you know if I think the sky is falling or not.

As of right now I think that we are a solid football team that has a few things to work out. We'll be fine.

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And I don't want to hear that the starters had no pass rush. Orakpo would have had at least 3 sacks but the Ravens held and weren't called.

I haven't seen a game that poorly officiated in a while. They couldn't get anything right, and that call where they said the play was over because of forward progress was just as bad or worse than the call by Hochuli. sp

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compare this to last years ravens pre season game it was a totally different feeling to it

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;722756]And I don't want to hear that the starters had no pass rush. Orakpo would have had at least 3 sacks but the Ravens held and weren't called.

I haven't seen a game that poorly officiated in a while. They couldn't get anything right, and that call where they said the play was over because of forward progress was just as bad or worse than the call by Hochuli. sp[/quote]

Hey, Ed Hoculi is a great official. Everone remembers the one terrible call but he is outstanding as an official. What if we were to hold players to the same standard?

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[quote=tryfuhl;722729]fine..

we scored 3

if you can defend that you're the new Johnny Cochrane[/quote]

If the glove does not fit, you must acquit.

Seriously though, I'm not saying that we dominated, but people are acting like we got owned. We got owned score-wise, but really the only thing I learned is that, like you said, we have bad depth and that our first team O and D are going to be pretty good.

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[quote=Angry;722758]Hey, Ed Hoculi is a great official. Everone remembers the one terrible call but he is outstanding as an official. What if we were to hold players to the same standard?[/quote]


You missed my point almost as badly as Oher's holds but I won't argue how good of an official he is.

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And when's the last time that's we didn't need 2nd team help?

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Last time I check the second and third teamers only play together during preseason. To say that we lack depth is a stretch.

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[quote=Angry;722762]Last time I check the second and third teamers only play together during preseason. To say that we lack depth is a stretch.[/quote]


It was obvious that we lack depth on the O-line. The second teamers were a turnstile.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;722764]It was obvious that we lack depth on the O-line. The second teamers were a turnstile.[/quote]

Sorry, I just don't see it that way. I just don't think that they were prepared for the looks that they were getting. Baltimore played as if it were week one with the packages they were using.

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Slow down folks. Let's remember with both teams starters in the game it was 3-3.. And WTF is up with that fake punt? Seriously man its preseason.

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[quote=Angry;722765]Sorry, I just don't see it that way. I just don't think that they were prepared for the looks that they were getting. Baltimore played as if it were week one with the packages they were using.[/quote]

Ok. What about the play that Grossman fumbled. There was a middle linebacker blitz straight up the middle on that play and the play before. Grossman had no chance. How do you put a positive spin on that one Z-man?

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BTW that boy A.Rodgers is the truth

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Did anybody catch Albert complaining about Shanahan on the post-game show? He wasn't happy with the way that the coach described his illness to the media this past week and didn't think that he should be playing with second stringers, since he's a nine year vet. He also said that he'll be training on his own again next off season and won't be showing up for the "optional" off-season conditioning.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;722766]Slow down folks. Let's remember with both teams starters in the game it was 3-3.. And WTF is up with that fake punt? Seriously man its preseason.[/quote]

What better time to try?

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;722756]And I don't want to hear that the starters had no pass rush. Orakpo would have had at least 3 sacks but the Ravens held and weren't called.

I haven't seen a game that poorly officiated in a while. They couldn't get anything right, and that call where they said the play was over because of forward progress was just as bad or worse than the call by Hochuli. sp[/quote]

Well, it's preseason for the refs, too. I'm sure by week 1 they'll [B]really[/B] be dicking us haha

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[quote=skinsfaninok;722766]Slow down folks. Let's remember with both teams starters in the game it was 3-3.. And WTF is up with that fake punt? Seriously man its preseason.[/quote]


Blades should have made that play.

I am not worried. Washington's starters kicked them around even though the score did not show it.

However, T. Sizzle humilated Williams tonight. They can pull out that tape any time he slacks.

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Dallas has 154 total yards well into the 4th. But the score is 14-14. Thats preseason folks

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[quote=Ijaeger;722772]Well, it's preseason for the refs, too. I'm sure by week 1 they'll [B]really[/B] be dicking us haha[/quote]

Ha ha ha. They have this tape to base their call off of!

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;722773]Blades should have made that play.

I am not worried. Washington's starters kicked them around even though the score did not show it.

However, T. Sizzle humilated Williams tonight. They can pull out that tape any time he slacks.[/quote]

You have to remember Suggs is a premier DE/LB.. Trent is a rookie LT he should have got owned. I'm not worried at all except from an injury stand point. Any news on Moore? I really like that guy

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And kudos to D.Hall. Two forced T.Os in this preseason

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[quote=skinsfaninok;722774]Dallas has 154 total yards well into the 4th. But the score is 14-14. Thats preseason folks[/quote]

Good point. Both of our QBs had crazy numbers for a half, even though ideally we would be able to run a little.

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Sorry about the double post but:

Did anybody catch Albert complaining about Shanahan on the post-game show? He wasn't happy with the way that the coach described his illness to the media this past week and didn't think that he should be playing with second stringers, since he's a nine year vet. He also said that he'll be training on his own again next off season and won't be showing up for the "optional" off-season conditioning.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;722776]You have to remember Suggs is a premier DE/LB.. Trent is a rookie LT he should have got owned. I'm not worried at all except from an injury stand point. Any news on Moore? I really like that guy[/quote]


I know that. The problem is that he gets to see Ware week 1 and the other two teams in the East have premier ends.

He shouldn't get owned like that on the run plays.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;722768]Ok. What about the play that Grossman fumbled. There was a middle linebacker blitz straight up the middle on that play and the play before. Grossman had no chance. How do you put a positive spin on that one Z-man?[/quote]

I have already talked about the blitz packages. Do you want to find another horse to beat or are you going to keep pounding on that one all day?

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I agree and I think he will improve. The guy can play we will be happy with him trust me. I'm guessing LJ will be cut. Did 39 play tonight? or Torrain?

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Here's the Haynesworth link:

[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/8/21/1635742/redskins-ravens-game-nfl-preseason-]Haynesworth Unleashes On Coaching Staff - SB Nation DC[/url]

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[quote=Angry;722781]I have already talked about the blitz packages. Do you want to find another horse to beat or are you going to keep pounding on that one all day?[/quote]

But it was the same blitz two plays in a row. When do second teamers get a pass because they can't pick up a blitz? If they have to fill in for a starter, are they not going to get blitzed?

I don't understand this train of thought. Blitzes are commonplace in the pre-season. Gregg Williams never thought twice.

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[quote=Warren85Ellard;722784]Here's the Haynesworth link:

[URL="http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/8/21/1635742/redskins-ravens-game-nfl-preseason-"]Haynesworth Unleashes On Coaching Staff - SB Nation DC[/URL][/quote]

Trying to force Shanny's hand. Still hasn't learned.

Re: Redskins vs. Ravens, Pre-Season Game 2, Gameday Thread
 

I'm so over AH. The guy is such a ****Tard

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[quote=Warren85Ellard;722784]Here's the Haynesworth link:

[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/8/21/1635742/redskins-ravens-game-nfl-preseason-]Haynesworth Unleashes On Coaching Staff - SB Nation DC[/url][/quote]

Thanks Vinny, your curse continues to haunt us. This guy sux...horrible

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;722785]But it was the same blitz two plays in a row. When do second teamers get a pass because they can't pick up a blitz? If they have to fill in for a starter, are they not going to get blitzed?

I don't understand this train of thought. Blitzes are commonplace in the pre-season. Gregg Williams never thought twice.[/quote]

True but a second teamer will step in the place of a starter and play with the first unit. They will square him away prior to the snap. They got beat mentally not physically on those 2 plays.

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[quote=Chico23231;722788]Thanks Vinny, your curse continues to haunt us. This guy sux...horrible[/quote]


Too bad he is a 1000 times better than Kemo.

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I wish we could ship his ass out but that's not going to happen. Unfortunetly the guy is way better than anyone else at his position on the team

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P$ took my thought lol