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This defense isn't confusing anyone except itself, couple that with an inept defensive coordinator and you got a recipe for horrible team that finishes last place finish.

There's no hiding it, Jim is a f'ing moron.

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I don't like Kyle Shanahan's feel for calling a game.

He's almost the reverse of Zorn, who had a great feel for how defenses would react to him, but was ultimately choosing from an entire playbook of overly simplistic plays and concepts.

Kyle does so many different things in the passing out of basic pro sets, but appears to have a horrendous feel for how defenses are going to play him. McNabb bails us out of a really poorly designed play about once or twice a drive.

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[quote=GTripp0012;740594]More reality: Rams on drives 2-5 in this game: 19 yards of total offense. Longest play went for seven yards, with perfect offensive execution.[/quote]

Yeah, but I painfully remember them scoring 30 points. Thats also probably double their average over the last year. Gtripp its the Rams, not Houston. Another painful obvious observation is they had more success in the second half, which means a) the Rams offense wore our defense down (now thats embarressing to type) b) Haslett made no significant adjustments to stop what the Rams were doing.

I think its not too late to get this thing going in the right direction. I our problem lies more with the line/linebacker play.

Anybody notice how obselete the Rams made London Fletcher? When he struggles, our entire unit struggles

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[quote=saden1;740598]This defense isn't confusing anyone except itself, couple that with an inept defensive coordinator and you got a recipe for horrible team that finishes last place finish.

There's no hiding it, Jim is a f'ing moron.[/quote]My two cents: I don't think you could be more wrong. But I'll certainly let you try.

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[quote=Chico23231;740601]Anybody notice how obselete the Rams made London Fletcher? When he struggles, our entire unit struggles[/quote]Keep in mind that Fletcher isn't protected by a scheme that foolishly tried to funnel all action to him. Fletcher was great, and has been a great player for a long time, but his tackle numbers were always inflated by the fact that the Redskins would never allow you to get a body on him (by ensuring you got a body on everyone else).

In this defense, he takes on blocks and his tackle numbers are down. He also doesn't get a lot of help directly in front of him. It's tough being London Fletcher these days but he's made it up in coverage and is doing any and everything we ask of him and he's having a great start to the season, IMO.

Fletcher is struggling with minutae, but he's good enough to overcome it.

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[quote=GTripp0012;740603]Keep in mind that Fletcher isn't protected by a scheme that foolishly tried to funnel all action to him. Fletcher was great, and has been a great player for a long time, but his tackle numbers were always inflated by the fact that the Redskins would never allow you to get a body on him (by ensuring you got a body on everyone else).

In this defense, he takes on blocks and his tackle numbers are down. [B]He also doesn't get a lot of help directly in front of him[/B]. It's tough being London Fletcher these days but he's made it up in coverage and is doing any and everything we ask of him and he's having a great start to the season, IMO.

Fletcher is struggling with minutae, but he's good enough to overcome it.[/quote]


That in bold is bothersome. Yeah coverage he been there. Hopefully he can overcome it, we need him making plays. I was just shocked not seeing it compared to the first couple games, I think overall the backer play has been...slow/average but obviously still getting the system straight. Play up front seems to be getting worse since the season has started which is scary.

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I've been impressed by Carriker these last two weeks. He might be our best defensive lineman (Haynesworth-neutral).

I think the linebacker play has been excellent in every phase but screens. We can nitpick the fact that Andre Carter is always going to play a little stiff in space and that he's a better 4-3 DE than an OLB, but Carter is 31 and not a significant part of the future of this team. Wouldn't have been much a part of the future if this was still a 4-3.

The defensive line hasn't been very good, but we still have an ace in the hole (Haynesworth), Carriker looks like a good pickup, and if all we need to do is ask Golston to rise to the occasion and be average, I think he'll eventually pick up the system. He's flashing playmaking ability already, which is good. He just has a ways to go.

Kemo is a big weakness. I mean, eh, I think he'll be more healthy and A LOT more explosive next year. Right now, we can play Anthony Bryant and Haynesworth equal time and get better performance. Kemo and Jarmon both had significant injuries next year and I'm not worried about the DL long term.

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[quote=GTripp0012;740612]I've been impressed by Carriker these last two weeks. He might be our best defensive lineman (Haynesworth-neutral).[/quote]

Houston was a coming out party for him. Big time active. This past week, yeah, probably our best linemen. Albert, if he wanted to, could be massive I think.

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[quote=saden1;740598]This defense isn't confusing anyone except itself, couple that with an inept defensive coordinator and you got a recipe for horrible team that finishes last place finish.

There's no hiding it, Jim is a f'ing moron.[/quote]
This is how I feel. This is what I feared when we hired this proven loser. Even worse is the realization that I came to after watching the Rams man-handle us:
The defense is clueless with little to no talent. Exceptions being Orackpo, Landry, Haynesworth, and an aged Fletcher that is out of position. The rest of the defense is average to below talent, and yes I do mean every corner.. Nobody knows what they're doing from play to play out there and it shows. Hence the inability to stop a drive and get off the field, or stop a team when they are going for 3rd and long!

The offense is aged and just about equally individually talented. We have no playmakers at skill positions except QB,TE. WR, RB are completely embarrasing. Portis should be released after the flop he took in the middle of the field with no contact and not punching in the TD from the 3. WR... What WR? We don't have any. F'ing embarrassing..

The Skins need to clean house of ALL these old losers ( Doughty, Carter, Portis, Rabach, EVERY WR, etc.) and let some new blood make these mistakes. These old bastards that have made a career of being on losing Redskins teams need not be here. Let the youth learn from their mistakes and growing pains of the transitions on O and D. I'm sick of the same assholes giving the same shitty performances and in turn the same excuses for failure to succeed.

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[quote=GTripp0012;740612]I've been impressed by Carriker these last two weeks. He might be our best defensive lineman (Haynesworth-neutral).

I think the linebacker play has been excellent in every phase but screens. We can nitpick the fact that Andre Carter is always going to play a little stiff in space and that he's a better 4-3 DE than an OLB, but Carter is 31 and not a significant part of the future of this team. Wouldn't have been much a part of the future if this was still a 4-3.

The defensive line hasn't been very good, but we still have an ace in the hole (Haynesworth), Carriker looks like a good pickup, and if all we need to do is ask Golston to rise to the occasion and be average, I think he'll eventually pick up the system. He's flashing playmaking ability already, which is good. He just has a ways to go.

Kemo is a big weakness. I mean, eh, I think he'll be more healthy and A LOT more explosive next year. Right now, we can play Anthony Bryant and Haynesworth equal time and get better performance. Kemo and Jarmon both had significant injuries next year and I'm not worried about the DL long term.[/quote]

Carriker, Goldston and Kemo would not start for any successful team running a 3-4. Carriker has been the better of the two but we're talking about a group that isn't going to dominate anyone.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;740620]This is how I feel. This is what I feared when we hired this proven loser. Even worse is the realization that I came to after watching the Rams man-handle us:
The defense is clueless with little to no talent. Exceptions being Orackpo, Landry, Haynesworth, and an aged Fletcher that is out of position. The rest of the defense is average to below talent, and yes I do mean every corner.. Nobody knows what they're doing from play to play out there and it shows. Hence the inability to stop a drive and get off the field, or stop a team when they are going for 3rd and long!

The offense is aged and just about equally individually talented. We have no playmakers at skill positions except QB,TE. WR, RB are completely embarrasing. Portis should be released after the flop he took in the middle of the field with no contact and not punching in the TD from the 3. WR... What WR? We don't have any. F'ing embarrassing..

[B]The Skins need to clean house[/B] of ALL these old losers ( Doughty, Carter, Portis, Rabach, EVERY WR, etc.) and let some new blood make these mistakes. These old bastards that have made a career of being on losing Redskins teams need not be here. Let the youth learn from their mistakes and growing pains of the transitions on O and D. I'm sick of the same assholes giving the same shitty performances and in turn the same excuses for failure to succeed.[/quote]

I was kind of hoping they would go the Tampa Bay route after last season. Keep the picks and go young. But it's not going to happen. Nothing worse than having an older team that isn't good enough to make the playoffs.

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[quote=GTripp0012;740602]My two cents: I don't think you could be more wrong. But I'll certainly let you try.[/quote]

Really? Because, I think I saw what I saw and what I saw was our defense get its shit pushed in by the f'ing Rams without S. Jackson for much of the game. But hay, you have the numbers on your side. No, wait, you don't.

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[quote=saden1;740629]Really? Because, I think I saw what I saw and what I saw was our defense get its shit pushed in by the f'ing Rams without S. Jackson for much of the game. But hay, [B]you have the numbers on your side[/B]. No, wait, you don't.[/quote]Well, of course I do. You can't be possibly be taken seriously thinking otherwise.

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[quote=GTripp0012;740631]Well, of course I do. You can't be possibly be taken seriously thinking otherwise.[/quote]

What numbers do you have on your side? Last weeks 17 point second half give away and 526 charity yard ? Or this weeks 133 rushing yards, 7-16 third down conversion and 30 point giveaway?


You got nothing...if I wanted to buy shit you wouldn't have any to sell to me! All I hear from you is "we've lost our queen but, look, we took out all his pawns" week in and week out.

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I think we've got the worst coached defensive team in the league! Who tells our cornerbacks to play so far off the receivers? Why is our nickel defense so bad now? Why didn't we add another cornerback for this year?

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[quote=JLee9718;740636]I think we've got the worst coached defensive team in the league! Who tells our cornerbacks to play so far off the receivers? Why is our nickel defense so bad now? Why didn't we add another cornerback for this year?[/quote]

Fire Hasslett now!!! London Fletcher takes a beating cause the guards come right out on him!! Instead of in a 4-3 where he had a pair of 2 techs slanting and pinching in front of him for protection. What a freaking joke this d is!!!!!!

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[quote=GTripp0012;740612]I've been impressed by Carriker these last two weeks. He might be our best defensive lineman (Haynesworth-neutral).

[B] I think the linebacker play has been excellent in every phase but screens. [/B] We can nitpick the fact that Andre Carter is always going to play a little stiff in space and that he's a better 4-3 DE than an OLB, but Carter is 31 and not a significant part of the future of this team. Wouldn't have been much a part of the future if this was still a 4-3.

....[/quote]

GTripp,
I have been quiet until now, but this is way wrong. Our LB's play has [B][U]not [/U][/B]been excellent except for screens. I watched the Rams game again last night and only to watch the defense. Our LB's are not playing excellent except for screens.
On Steve Jackson 1st TD for example the left OLB and DE were hooked, they blew containment and the left ILB was blown up the RG. On several other plays and not just in this game the OLB's are not setting the edge well. The DL and LB's arenot playing well together. There is a huge gap left between the DE and OLB on runs around end. Our DE are getting hooked to easy.
Use your stats and feel good about them.
I am not a huge stats guy. I watch the play on the field and our defense is not playing well tegther as a unit.

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I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season

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[quote=saden1;740633]What numbers do you have on your side? Last weeks 17 point second half give away and 526 charity yard ? Or this weeks 133 rushing yards, 7-16 third down conversion and 30 point giveaway?


You got nothing...if I wanted to buy shit you wouldn't have any to sell to me! I all hear from you is "we've lost our queen but, look, we took out all his pawns" week in and week out.[/quote]Was that your C game?

First of all, it's not [B]that[/B] uncommon to give up 20 points in a half. It happens 4 or 5 times per week in the NFL. The Texans actually had just done it to the Colts the week before.

That 133 rushing yards comes out to 3.6 yards per carry. Someone can try to convince me that's good (It'd be great if we had not let Jackson go for 42 and a TD on us -- 9 rushes for 16 yards on all of Jackson's other carries, btw), but I'm unconvinced.

7-16 third down conversion is about league average. We don't know how good the Rams offense will look. This might look like a really bad figure at the end of the year (bottom three or four offensive unit), but probably just "meh". We were 0-8 on passing third downs. That's bad vs. anyone.

A 30 pt giveaway necessarily requires that you count the drive that started on the 3 yard line after the Moss turnover. I don't know. Seems to me like it would be unreasonable to expect a team to come away with no points from there. Of course, the Rams had first and goal at the one at the end of the first half and didn't score, so the defense had to have figured out something in that situation.

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[quote=SmootSmack;740640]I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season[/quote]

Who was the first choice?

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[quote=SmootSmack;740640]I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season[/quote]

who was the first choice? was it a 3-4 guy?

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[quote=SmootSmack;740640]I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season[/quote]


If things don't get better, how can they not when you're dead last, he will most certainly be fired at the end of the season. Shanahan having [I][COLOR="Yellow"]GTripp0012 Vision™[/COLOR][/I] not withstanding of course.

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[quote=Defensewins;740639]GTripp,
I have been quiet until now, but this is way wrong. Our LB's play has [B][U]not [/U][/B]been excellent except for screens. I watched the Rams game again last night and only to watch the defense. Our LB's are not playing excellent except for screens.
On Steve Jackson 1st TD for example the left OLB and DE were hooked, they blew containment and the left ILB was blown up the RG. On several other plays and not just in this game the OLB's are not setting the edge well. The DL and LB's arenot playing well together. There is a huge gap left between the DE and OLB on runs around end. Our DE are getting hooked to easy.
Use your stats and feel good about them.
I am not a huge stats guy. I watch the play on the field and our defense is not playing well tegther as a unit.[/quote]The Jackson TD was the worst run defense play of the year. So, naturally, we didn't play it all that well (imagine that). Fletcher/Moore missed tackles, the pursuit from Holliday/Haynesworth was lacking. In addition to what you mentioned. That's all it takes sometimes.

Good job going to their most successful play to find something that the LBs overplayed...that took great skill. It's almost as if you knew the result of the play!

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[quote=SmootSmack;740640]I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season[/quote]Is Mike Zimmer's contract up at the end of this season?

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[quote=SmootSmack;740640]I'm not for firing Haslett at this point and I don't think we'll end up as bad defensively as we have been the past couple of weeks...but Haslett, you'll recall, wasn't Shanahan's first choice. Will be interesting to see if he's able to lure his first choice over next season[/quote]

I agree completely. He will not be fired this year. If things do not improve soon I do not see Haslett here next year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;740643]Was that your C game?

First of all, it's not [B]that[/B] uncommon to give up 20 points in a half. It happens 4 or 5 times per week in the NFL. The Texans actually had just done it to the Colts the week before.

That 133 rushing yards comes out to 3.6 yards per carry. Someone can try to convince me that's good (It'd be great if we had not let Jackson go for 42 and a TD on us -- 9 rushes for 16 yards on all of Jackson's other carries, btw), but I'm unconvinced.

7-16 third down conversion is about league average. We don't know how good the Rams offense will look. This might look like a really bad figure at the end of the year (bottom three or four offensive unit), but probably just "meh". We were 0-8 on passing third downs. That's bad vs. anyone.

A 30 pt giveaway necessarily requires that you count the drive that started on the 3 yard line after the Moss turnover. I don't know. Seems to me like it would be unreasonable to expect a team to come away with no points from there. Of course, the Rams had first and goal at the one at the end of the first half and didn't score, so the defense had to have figured out something in that situation.[/quote]

So the problem is bad luck and the offense?

Seriously, the Texans did it to the Colts is such a piss poor excuse. I expect us to be those 10 other teams that don't allow that to happen. You know, those above avg.

Really, 43% third down conversion is league avg? And here I was thinking you were good with stats.

Fine, they could have given up a field goal but they ended up giving away a TD. Their objective is to make stops. I'll give the Rams 23 pts. We still lose. Happy?

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[quote=GTripp0012;740649]The Jackson TD was the worst run defense play of the year. So, naturally, we didn't play it all that well (imagine that). Fletcher/Moore missed tackles, the pursuit from Holliday/Haynesworth was lacking. In addition to what you mentioned. That's all it takes sometimes.

Good job going to their most successful play to find something that the LBs overplayed...that took great skill. It's almost as if you knew the result of the play![/quote]

Dude you take everything so personally. We all make mistakes. And by you saying our LB play is [B][U]excellent[/U][/B] except for screens is incorrect.
No need to take it so personal.

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[quote=GTripp0012;740643]Was that your C game?

First of all, it's not [B]that[/B] uncommon to give up 20 points in a half. It happens 4 or 5 times per week in the NFL. The Texans actually had just done it to the Colts the week before.

That 133 rushing yards comes out to 3.6 yards per carry. Someone can try to convince me that's good (It'd be great if we had not let Jackson go for 42 and a TD on us -- 9 rushes for 16 yards on all of Jackson's other carries, btw), but I'm unconvinced.

7-16 third down conversion is about league average. We don't know how good the Rams offense will look. This might look like a really bad figure at the end of the year (bottom three or four offensive unit), but probably just "meh". We were 0-8 on passing third downs. That's bad vs. anyone.

A 30 pt giveaway necessarily requires that you count the drive that started on the 3 yard line after the Moss turnover. I don't know. Seems to me like it would be unreasonable to expect a team to come away with no points from there. Of course, the Rams had first and goal at the one at the end of the first half and didn't score, so the defense had to have figured out something in that situation.[/quote]

Tripp I think what you're missing is that the Rams are a bad team. We're not talking about the Texans or Cowboys. To allow 24 first downs to a team w/out it's best player and a rookie qb with terrible wr's is just UNACCEPTABLE. No one cares about yards per carry. The bottom line is the defense can't get off the field.

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What's really concerning to me is how many points we are giving up in the second half. Against Dallas we gave up a touchdown in the second half and it would've been two touchdowns if Alex Barron wasn't such a crappy player, and we'd also be sitting at 0-3 instead of 1-2 if it wasn't for him. Against Houston we were outscored 20-7 in the second half and against the Rams we were outscored 16-3 in the second half. It's an unsettling trend that needs to be reversed if we are going to win games this season.

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[quote=saden1;740652]So the problem is bad luck and the offense?[/quote]I don't think they've had bad luck...and the offense is its own animal. If you're going to throw out points against, now you have to consider what role the offense had in field position.

But I don't want to talk points against, I just want to talk defense/defensive numbers.

Teams haven't been able to run the ball on us this year like a lot of people thought they'd be able to based on the preseason. We clearly lapsed on 2 TD runs last Sunday. Neither play was good effort. But that's the only rushing TDs against us this year.

I think our pass defense has been poor, mitigated by the fact that we have a strong, consistently effective pass rush. In other words, it's the same strengths and weaknesses as last year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;740645]who was the first choice? was it a 3-4 guy?[/quote]

It was Mike Zimmer-who just signed a new contract, but if he gets a promotion (i.e. assistant head coach) he could be ours. Or we could promote option 2A Bob Slowik. Either way, Shanahan's track record with DCs would say that Haslett is on a short leash. Though I don't know if it's entirely his fault. Haslett's not the one (to my knowledge) who said let's go after Maake, battle with AH, address our linebacker situation by moving Alexander to LB and Jarmon and then move him to DE, and sit arguably our second most explosive pass rushing LB in Chris Wilson.

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[quote=skinsfan69;740655]Tripp I think what you're missing is that the Rams are a bad team. We're not talking about the Texans or Cowboys. To allow 24 first downs to a team w/out it's best player and a rookie qb with terrible wr's is just UNACCEPTABLE. No one cares about yards per carry. The bottom line is the defense can't get off the field.[/quote]I largely agree. We [U]still[/U] cant get off the field w/o the benefit of a turnover. But I also know we had the same problem last year with a lot of the same personnel.

It's not because of scheme that we can't get off the field though. I can tell you that for certain. Our big plays against have dropped significantly as soon as we started playing a real defense. Our turnovers created are way up. Our sack production is consistent with last year.

Yards against per play is the only place things are worse than last year, and I showed in the Detroit/St. Louis direct comparison how even that number (at least vs. the rookie quarterback that YOU YOURSELF SAID WAS UNACCEPTABLE) was worse under the prior regime than the current one. It's got to get better to be a productive defense, but people asserting that the front seven scheme is a problem have proven to be full of it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;740661]It was Mike Zimmer-who just signed a new contract, but if he gets a promotion (i.e. assistant head coach) he could be ours. Or we could promote option 2A Bob Slowik. Either way, Shanahan's track record with DCs would say that Haslett is on a short leash. Though I don't know if it's entirely his fault. Haslett's not the one (to my knowledge) who said let's go after Maake, battle with AH, address our linebacker situation by moving Alexander to LB and Jarmon and then move him to DE, and sit arguably our second most explosive pass rushing LB in Chris Wilson.[/quote]

I got one for ya Smack!! Where are we sitting after these four games?
WAS @ PHI
GB @ WAS
IND @ WAS
WAS @ CHI

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[quote=GTripp0012;740660]I don't think they've had bad luck...and the offense is its own animal. If you're going to throw out points against, now you have to consider what role the offense had in field position.

But I don't want to talk points against, I just want to talk defense/defensive numbers.

Teams haven't been able to run the ball on us this year like a lot of people thought they'd be able to based on the preseason. We clearly lapsed on 2 TD runs last Sunday. Neither play was good effort. But that's the only rushing TDs against us this year.

I think our pass defense has been poor, mitigated by the fact that we have a strong, consistently effective pass rush. In other words, it's the same strengths and weaknesses as last year.[/quote]

Through 3 games the Skins have given up 1271 (423.7 avg per game), 977 passing yards (325.3 avg), and 294 yards rushing (98 avg yards) and have given up 22.3 pts a game. I don't know how these numbers can look good to you or any other sane person. Even for a beautifier like you these numbers are indefensible.

We f'ing lost to the Rams! Without their #1 receiver and #1 running back for the majority of the game and a rookie qb!

p.s. my other post was mended.

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4-3... :)

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;740664]I got one for ya Smack!! Where are we sitting after these four games?
WAS @ PHI
GB @ WAS
IND @ WAS
WAS @ CHI[/quote]

5-2...makes no difference if I pick them to win or lose...so why not pick them to win :)

Going into the season I thought we'd beat Dallas, lose to Houston, beat the Rams, lose to Philly, lose to GB, beat Indy (in a stunner) and beat Chicago

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;740666]4-3... :)[/quote]

"Dreaming of what a Carter, Golston, Haynesworth, and Orakpo d-line would have looked like in the 4-3."

I think it would have been a nightmare for an offense. Why fix whats not really even leaking?

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[quote=saden1;740665]You want to know stats? Through 3 games the Skins have given up 1271 (423.7 avg per game), 977 passing yards (325.3 avg), and 294 yards rushing (98 avg yards) and have given up 22.3 pts a game. I don't know how these numbers can look good to you or any other sane person. Even for a beautifier like you these numbers are indefensible.

We f'ing lost to the Rams! Without their #1 receiver and #1 running back for the majority of the game and a rookie qb![/quote]That your B game?

I don't look at per game numbers for the same reason that you don't use a VCR. Per play numbers are available these days. And regardless, I wasn't aware it was a three game season.

Quarterbacks, as a group, have had a lot of success against this defense. I think the reason is that Romo/Schaub (to a lesser extent, Bradford) are good, but I'm not trying to argue against anyone who thinks our opponents in the first three games are worse than last year's draw of NYG, STL, and DET to start 1-2. I simply don't know. I suspect it's stronger this year. I don't know.

I know it's not the scheme that's causing this.

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[quote=SmootSmack;740661]It was Mike Zimmer-who just signed a new contract, but if he gets a promotion (i.e. assistant head coach) he could be ours. Or we could promote option 2A Bob Slowik. Either way, Shanahan's track record with DCs would say that Haslett is on a short leash. Though I don't know if it's entirely his fault. Haslett's not the one (to my knowledge) who said let's go after Maake, battle with AH, address our linebacker situation by moving Alexander to LB and Jarmon and then move him to DE, and sit arguably our second most explosive pass rushing LB in Chris Wilson.[/quote]

Zimmer runs a 4-3 with Cinn and I believe he ran one with Atlanta. I don't remember what he did when he was with Dallas. Anyhow that guy was great on Hard Knocks. He's a no non sense tough SOB. But Cinn also has better personel on defense than we do so I don't see him leaving, unless it's to be a HC.

Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread
 

[quote=SmootSmack;740667]5-2...makes no difference if I pick them to win or lose...so why not pick them to win :)

Going into the season I thought we'd beat Dallas, lose to Houston, beat the Rams, lose to Philly, lose to GB, beat Indy (in a stunner) and beat Chicago[/quote]

Im holding on to this post!!! Im all in the cool-aid or pee pee, which ever it is!! !!!! I just found motivation baby, bring on Vick!! We're fiixing to turn the dogs loose on him!! Lets do this!!! Come on Hasslett load the wagon sugar pants!!!