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CultBrennan59 07-26-2011 02:05 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=mredskins;813196]Nick Barnett from the packers released.[/quote]

good option if Riley doesn't work out. But I'll take my chances with the young guy.

Schneed10 07-26-2011 02:05 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
I know things are moving fast and furious. But unless your name is SmootSmack - who is getting his info straight from his connections, I don't see any excuse for not providing a link to the source of your information.

Or if you heard it on the airways, say what show and station you heard it on. Don't throw unsubstantiated crap out there, at least link to the twitter feed so the reader can decide for themselves how credible the information is.

The Mods should not have to chase people on this, we should all know the rules by now.

Harumph.

Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 02:06 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Logan Mankins stays home.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3177/logan-mankins]Logan Mankins - New England Patriots - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

mredskins 07-26-2011 02:07 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=mredskins;813196]Nick Barnett from the packers released.[/quote]
Keeping with the rules my bad.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/26/packers-say-so-long-to-nick-barnett/]Packers say so long to Nick Barnett | ProFootballTalk[/url]

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 02:07 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;813167]we just signed sidney rice to a 4 year deal[/quote]



Well, seeing as deals cannot be signed until Friday, I think that invalidates your claim. (or troll)



That said, is making proposals to FA at this particular time even worthwhile? Even if they agree to terms, there is still 2-3 days in between where somebody else could come along and swoop them up.

12thMan 07-26-2011 02:07 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Just heard Orakpo...I think he's ready to step up to be the defensive leader. This guy sounds seriously amped.

CultBrennan59 07-26-2011 02:08 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Schneed10;813202]I know things are moving fast and furious. But unless your name is SmootSmack - who is getting his info straight from his connections, I don't see any excuse for not providing a link to the source of your information.

Or if you heard it on the airways, say what show and station you heard it on. Don't throw unsubstantiated crap out there, at least link to the twitter feed so the reader can decide for themselves how credible the information is.

The Mods should not have to chase people on this, we should all know the rules by now.

Harumph.[/quote]

How do you know that someone posting the rumors also works for a major sport outlet like SmootSmack does, and gets even more accurate better information than him?

Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 02:10 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Looks like Vincent Jackson stays home too.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3202/vincent-jackson]Vincent Jackson - San Diego Chargers - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

mredskins 07-26-2011 02:10 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;813209]How do you know that someone posting the rumors also works for a major sport outlet like SmootSmack does, and gets even more accurate better information than him?[/quote]


Becasue we have been on this site for many years and I have yet to see anyone predict as well as him.

Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 02:12 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
I dont see us picking up two hot shot WR's unless we had a hot shot QB to throw to them.

MTK 07-26-2011 02:14 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Schneed10;813202]I know things are moving fast and furious. But unless your name is SmootSmack - who is getting his info straight from his connections, I don't see any excuse for not providing a link to the source of your information.

Or if you heard it on the airways, say what show and station you heard it on. Don't throw unsubstantiated crap out there, at least link to the twitter feed so the reader can decide for themselves how credible the information is.

The Mods should not have to chase people on this, we should all know the rules by now.

Harumph.[/quote]

Agreed.

Let's stick to the reliable sources. There's enough credible rumors floating around without having to wade through the BS of Joe Schmoe on Twitter making shit up.

12thMan 07-26-2011 02:14 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;813209]How do you know that someone posting the rumors also works for a major sport outlet like SmootSmack does, and gets even more accurate better information than him?[/quote]

edited.

JoeRedskin 07-26-2011 02:16 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;813209]How do you know that someone posting the rumors also works for a major sport outlet like SmootSmack does, and gets even more accurate better information than him?[/quote]

B/c no one else has made the claim. If someone else here has legitimate insider information, great - let us know who your source is & how you know this is reliable info. Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke and cluttering the thread. Of course, if you have such insider info, people would probably give such claims more credence if they had been made and demonstrated [I][B]prior[/B][/I] to the a day in which rumour, innuendo and false leads are bound to be rampant (you know, like Smootsmack did).

Double Harumph!!

12thMan 07-26-2011 02:18 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Well, if I know a few players on the Skins I don't want to air that on Warpath and say so and so said...

Look, it's an exciting first day back to football. If the Mods mandate that you have to source your rumor, so be it.

12thMan 07-26-2011 02:20 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Mattyk;813216]Agreed.

Let's stick to the reliable sources. There's enough credible rumors floating around without having to wade through the BS of Joe Schmoe on Twitter making shit up.[/quote]


So something on Twitter isn't a reliable source or does it depend on who's tweeting? Just trying to clarify.

MTK 07-26-2011 02:21 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=12thMan;813223]So something on Twitter isn't a reliable source or does it depend on who's tweeting? Just trying to clarify.[/quote]

Depends on the source.

Schefter, Mort, local DC media, etc. = good

Horny4Zorny = probably not so good

NM Redskin 07-26-2011 02:23 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;813102]Honestly I think Moss returns, just seems like the Redskins are not throwing themselves at him.[/quote]

I hope so, I'd rather have Moss over Edwards. Edwards could be a nice complement to Moss, but Edwards as our #1, now that's scary!

SmootSmack 07-26-2011 02:25 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Adam Schefter says the Cowboys are going to release Roy Williams

And here's a link

[url=http://twitter.com/#!/ESPNDallas/status/95918262164004866]Twitter[/url]

As for Sidney Rice and Braylon Edwards both coming here, do you remember where you heard that skinsfaninok? I'm guessing it was on Colin Cowherd's show maybe? Based on the time you posted

I just asked one of our ESPNDallas execs about it and they said they hadn't heard that, that he's still hearing Santonio Holmes. But like I've said I've heard all three from various places now...which probably means we're signing James Jones. But seriously...

Lotus 07-26-2011 02:25 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;813209]How do you know that someone posting the rumors also works for a major sport outlet like SmootSmack does, and gets even more accurate better information than him?[/quote]

SS posts links when possible. If something is just a rumor, he says it is just a rumor. In so doing he inspires trust.

Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 02:27 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
More Roy Williams.....

Cowboys are dropping like flies today.
LMAO!

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/35/roy-williams]Roy Williams - Dallas Cowboys - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 02:29 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
I can point you to three insiders that know the 411 when it comes to the Skins. Everything they've ever said has matched up exactly to what Smoot has. I've been reading (on Extremeskins) these guys posts for many years now and they drop knowledge when they can. One of them runs Extremeskins (which is owned by the Redskins) and has made many contacts during his time there. They aren't going to tell you who they are or what they do.

[url=http://twitter.com/#!/TKextremeskins]Twitter[/url]

[url=http://twitter.com/#!/LL56xtremeskins]Twitter[/url]

[url=http://twitter.com/#!/Jsteelzout2dome]Twitter[/url]

In fact, here is another nugget from one of them.


[quote] LL56xtremeskins LL
Haha auto correct.. last tweet. Yanda could get 7.5-8 per year from skins. Sorry for the Mis- tweet
[/quote]

If I were a Insider, no way in hell I would tell you who I was or what I did. Not sure if you remember, but a cat by the name of Andyman used to post on Extremeskins. It ended up being Karl Swanson, but people would hound him about who he was and what he did. Sometimes you just take the information and be happy. You'll know what's credible and what's not. I will say this. Don't expect the information to always come true because of how things go in the NFL. It's constantly changing. The deal made right now could be gone in 15 minutes. So information given at a particular time could very well be accurate, but 100% false the next day. It's how it rolls.

skinsfaninok 07-26-2011 02:30 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;813227]Adam Schefter says the Cowboys are going to release Roy Williams

And here's a link

[URL="http://twitter.com/#%21/ESPNDallas/status/95918262164004866"]Twitter[/URL]

As for Sidney Rice and Braylon Edwards both coming here, do you remember where you heard that skinsfaninok? I'm guessing it was on Colin Cowherd's show maybe? Based on the time you posted

I just asked one of our ESPNDallas execs about it and they said they hadn't heard that, that he's still hearing Santonio Holmes. But like I've said I've heard all three from various places now...which probably means we're signing James Jones. But seriously...[/quote]


Yes they also mentioned Holmes, it was around 1230.. Don't know who said it though but again it was just talk.. If u had to guess SS, what WR do u see in WSH? Holmes, Edwards or Rice? Or none

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 02:33 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Mattyk;813225]Depends on the source.

Schefter, Mort, local DC media, etc. = good

Horny4Zorny = probably not so good[/quote]

The Horny4Zorny tweet was a joke. He even posted it on Extremeskins. and afterwards put ...........LOL/JK


Not even sure why SB posted it as it were legitimate. There are some credible guys out there.

skinsfaninok 07-26-2011 02:34 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
how in the world could the jets pay NNamdi

CultBrennan59 07-26-2011 02:38 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Giants Cut Center Shaun O'Hara
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/26/source-giants-plan-to-cut-shaun-ohara/]Source: Giants plan to cut Shaun O’Hara | ProFootballTalk[/url]

mooby 07-26-2011 02:44 PM

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Is there any idea on who the Redskins plan on cutting?

D'BOYZ 07-26-2011 02:52 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
OK just to keep update and so some of ytou can get a good laugh

Dallas reported that

Leonard Davis, Marion Barber, Roy Williams and kicker Kris Brown are going to be released

mlmpetert 07-26-2011 02:55 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=mooby;813237]Is there any idea on who the Redskins plan on cutting?[/quote]


You think people would be cool with a seperate thread just about Redskin FA's and one about other leauge stuff???? Too much to try and keep up with if you can only check this site every couple of hours

Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 02:56 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Sidney Rice to Seahawks?

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4188/sidney-rice]Sidney Rice - Minnesota Vikings - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

Tavaris Jackson to sign with Seahawks today?

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3708/tarvaris-jackson]Tarvaris Jackson - Minnesota Vikings - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

Cardinals to release Derek Anderson.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3233/derek-anderson]Derek Anderson - Arizona Cardinals - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

Chico23231 07-26-2011 02:58 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=D'BOYZ;813239]OK just to keep update and so some of ytou can get a good laugh

Dallas reported that

Leonard Davis, Marion Barber, Roy Williams and kicker Kris Brown are going to be released[/quote]

those are actually good moves...scary.

SmootSmack 07-26-2011 03:04 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;813231]Yes they also mentioned Holmes, it was around 1230.. Don't know who said it though but again it was just talk.. If u had to guess SS, what WR do u see in WSH? Holmes, Edwards or Rice? Or none[/quote]

If I had to guess, I'd say Edwards.

I also think Breaston might be a sleeper choice for us, but probably only if we lose Santana

GMScud 07-26-2011 03:07 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=D'BOYZ;813239]OK just to keep update and so some of ytou can get a good laugh

Dallas reported that

Leonard Davis, Marion Barber, Roy Williams and kicker Kris Brown are going to be released[/quote]

That Roy Williams trade/contract was one of the biggest failures in Cowboys history. A Haynesworthian disaster if you will.

SKINSnCANES 07-26-2011 03:09 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;813249]If I had to guess, I'd say Edwards.

I also think Breaston might be a sleeper choice for us, but probably only if we lose Santana[/quote]


I hope not. Otherwise I'm just missing something. A few good games over the years...can find his way to sports center...but not the type of consistency I would want in a starting WR. Much rather Rice as a #1. Moss FINALLY in the slot after wanting him there for a decade but not having enough talent around him. And let Hankerson and Armstrong battle for number 2 spot. As much as Id like to root for my Cane right away it always takes receivers a few years...speaking of which...maybe Kelly will show up! and not get hurt...

Lotus 07-26-2011 03:13 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=GMScud;813251]That Roy Williams trade/contract was one of the biggest failures in Cowboys history. A Haynesworthian disaster if you will.[/quote]

Worse than Haynesworth because of the lost draft picks.

I hope Jerry has another Roy Williams trade up his sleeve.

Chico23231 07-26-2011 03:14 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Really not a huge fan of all our WR interest. Would really like to hear about us in the mix for a couple O-linemen and a couple D-Linemen.

Cant believe Mike Brown wouldnt take Haynesworth for Carson straight up...that would be good news.

SmootSmack 07-26-2011 03:14 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Edwards, Holmes, and Rice all have big question marks in my opinion. I think Edwards perhaps has the fewest, but I wouldn't really want any of them over what we have.

D'BOYZ 07-26-2011 03:20 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=GMScud;813251]That Roy Williams trade/contract was one of the biggest failures in Cowboys history. A Haynesworthian disaster if you will.[/quote]

Agreed but I think it was worse becuase it cost dallas a lot of money but also high draft picks.
Heynesworth cost 3 times the money limit the chance for you gusy to persuade FA but didn't cost u draft picks.

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 03:26 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;813259]Edwards, Holmes, and Rice all have big question marks in my opinion. I think Edwards perhaps has the fewest, but I wouldn't really want any of them over what we have.[/quote]


I feel the same way. I don't mind them going after Yanda or C. Jenkins, but I think we need to groom what we have here.

mredskins 07-26-2011 03:30 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
can any team say we have this guy signed today? Don't they have to wait until 6 on Friday? I know they can negotiate but no one can really say where they are going until Friday, correct?

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 03:32 PM

Re: 2011 Redskins Free Agent Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=mredskins;813272]can any team say we have this guy signed today? Don't they have to wait until 6 on Friday? I know they can negotiate but no one can really say where they are going until Friday, correct?[/quote]


All they can do is agree to terms, but nothing is finalized till Friday. Which is the point I brought up about some team coming by and scooping them up during that time period and come Friday they sign with somebody else.


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