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Skins4L 01-06-2012 07:32 PM

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Bradford would make an impact here. Even with the roster we ended the season with we arguably had more weapons than StLouis which is pathetic.

GTripp0012 01-06-2012 07:33 PM

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[quote=Skins4L;873675]Even with the roster we ended the season with we arguably had more weapons than StLouis which is pathetic.[/quote]That much is very true. But I think we also ended the season with the better quarterback.

SmootSmack 01-06-2012 07:44 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;873677]That much is very true. But I think we also ended the season with the better quarterback.[/quote]

Well yeah. I mean that's why we cut Kellen Clemens

Big C 01-06-2012 08:08 PM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;873645]I dont know much about Kirk Cousins, but I like his size. Cant find allot of highlights. Can someone post some.[/quote]

not sold on cousins being a viable nfl starting qb. i see him as a career backup.

Lotus 01-07-2012 12:01 AM

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[quote=Big C;873681]not sold on cousins being a viable nfl starting qb. i see him as a career backup.[/quote]

Me too.

CultBrennan59 01-07-2012 12:10 AM

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[quote=Lotus;873685]Me too.[/quote]

me 3

GMScud 01-07-2012 01:47 PM

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No big shocker, but apparently Irsay has his mind made up on Luck:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7435726/indianapolis-colts-draft-andrew-luck-stanford-cardinal-no-1-pick-sources-say]Indianapolis Colts to draft Andrew Luck of Stanford Cardinal with No. 1 pick, sources say - ESPN[/url]

REDSKINS4ever 01-07-2012 01:54 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts drafted Luck since he's projected to be the first drafted off the boards. Manning's future is uncertain. He simply hasn't shown that he's ready to return and he's 36 years of age. But it's a long time between now and training camp and Manning could very well be healthy enough to play by then. But you have to look at Manning's age, and you also have to be concerned about the future of your team. That's why drafting Luck makes sense.

CultBrennan59 01-07-2012 02:08 PM

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I guess they won't bother listening to our offers now for Luck

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 03:17 PM

Wonder if it's to see who bites or if it's 100 % true.. if so that sucks

MTK 01-07-2012 03:27 PM

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F the Colts man, it's going to be like the Pack going from Favre to Rodgers.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk;873747]F the Colts man, it's going to be like the Pack going from Favre to Rodgers.[/QUOTE]



Sorry but if they take luck I hope he's a bust. I know he probably won't be but I still do. Yeah I'm jealous

NC_Skins 01-07-2012 07:18 PM

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[url=http://www.seniorbowl.com/article.asp?articleID=335]Official Website of the Senior Bowl[/url]


[QUOTE]—The 2012 Senior Bowl will feature a pair of NFL head coaches making their Senior Bowl head coaching debuts. Mike Shanahan and the Washington Redskins staff will face Leslie Frazier and the Minnesota Vikings staff in the senior showcase event later this month, it was announced today. [B][U]Shanahan and his staff will lead the South squad in Mobile[/U][/B], while Frazier’s Vikings staff will coach the North. The 2012 Senior Bowl is scheduled for 3pm (CT) on Saturday, January 28th in Mobile’s Ladd-Peebles Stadium. The game and all practices will be televised by NFL Network.[/QUOTE]


Nice for our coaches to have a first hand look at these guys.

SCRedskinsFan 01-07-2012 07:51 PM

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So will the Colts pay PM's bonus in the spring? And will Luck want to come to town and play behind Manning, or will he pull and Elway or Archie M. and go to the team of his choosing?

diehardskin2982 01-07-2012 08:19 PM

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RGIII to become a skin.... That is all

SBXVII 01-07-2012 09:24 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;873648]Kyle Orton makes throws that makes you say out loud: "Hey, this guy is pretty good, I don't know why he can never get a long term contract."

And then by the end of the game, he does stuff that reminds you that you've been watching Kyle Orton this whole time.

Kyle Orton is a slightly below average NFL quarterback, which is about what Rex Grossman is. But if our system does for his numbers what it did for Grossman's, we could have slightly above average quarterback play with Orton. Of course, if it ends up turning him into McNabb 2.0....[/quote]

100% correct. This is why I don't want Orton.

I'd rather go after Flynn (young healthy QB that knows the WCO), I'd pick up a big #1 WR in RD1, pick up the next best QB in RD2, and also pick up either a late round QB or undrafted QB.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 09:31 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;873803]100% correct. This is why I don't want Orton.

I'd rather go after Flynn (young healthy QB that knows the WCO), I'd pick up a big #1 WR in RD1, pick up the next best QB in RD2, and also pick up either a late round QB or undrafted QB.[/quote]

Flynn and then Blackmon and we are in good shape

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 09:32 PM

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so here's a Q

Flynn or RG3?

VTSkins1961 01-07-2012 09:39 PM

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depends if we have to trade up. i would go flynn, then don't trade up and see who is available. if rg3 is there take him, if not we would have a lot of options

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 09:52 PM

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I think RG3 would electrify this offense so I do want him but trading up and giving alot, I'd rather Sign Flynn

30gut 01-07-2012 09:57 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;873806]so here's a Q

Flynn or RG3?[/quote]What are the terms/cost?

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 09:58 PM

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[quote=30gut;873810]What are the terms/cost?[/quote]


Flynn for a 5 year 35 Million

RG3 - Trade picks to get him

NC_Skins 01-07-2012 10:26 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;873811]Flynn for a 5 year 35 Million
[/quote]



:laughing-

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 10:36 PM

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;873814]:laughing-[/QUOTE]

Is that too low or high? Because Clayton said he's probably going time get between 4 to 6 million a year

NC_Skins 01-07-2012 10:40 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;873816]Is that too low or high? Because Clayton said he's probably going time get between 4 to 6 million a year[/quote]

I'm just laughing at any idiot that's going to pay that guy that type of money. Glad it's not going to be us.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 10:52 PM

In today's NFL u never know my man teams are desperate

skinsfaninok 01-07-2012 10:53 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;873816]Is that too low or high? Because Clayton said he's probably going to get between 4 to 6 million a year[/QUOTE]



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44Deezel 01-07-2012 10:57 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;873817]I'm just laughing at any idiot that's going to pay that guy that type of money. Glad it's not going to be us.[/quote]

How much guaranteed is the question.

Hog1 01-07-2012 11:03 PM

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It does seem rather pricey for a 2 game....audition

MTK 01-07-2012 11:20 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;873817]I'm just laughing at any idiot that's going to pay that guy that type of money. Glad it's not going to be us.[/quote]

Makes more sense than giving that $$ to a rookie plus the pick. Just sayin'.

If we got him plus drafted a rookie in the mid rounds to develop, would you be against that?

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-07-2012 11:37 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;873831]Makes more sense than giving that $$ to a rookie plus the pick. Just sayin'.

If we got him plus drafted a rookie in the mid rounds to develop, would you be against that?[/quote]

No, but would you be against signing Matt Flynn then drafting Justin Blackmon in the first and taking Tannehill or Foles in the 2nd anyways?

MTK 01-07-2012 11:40 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;873839]No, but would you be against signing Matt Flynn then drafting Justin Blackmon in the first and taking Tannehill or Foles in the 2nd anyways?[/quote]

I would have no problem at all with that scenario.

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-07-2012 11:57 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;873840]I would have no problem at all with that scenario.[/quote]

I am thinking that is option 1B in Shanny's mind.

GTripp0012 01-07-2012 11:58 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;873839]No, but would you be against signing Matt Flynn then drafting Justin Blackmon in the first and taking Tannehill or Foles in the 2nd anyways?[/quote]Better off doing that exact thing without signing Flynn.

If we're after a non-Grossman veteran, I think there are plenty of more appealing options. If we think Flynn is going to be a top 7 or 8 QB in the NFL (and obviously then the best in the FA class), we should go after him, but I have no idea what we would be basing that on.

NM Redskin 01-08-2012 12:09 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;873839]No, but would you be against signing Matt Flynn then drafting Justin Blackmon in the first and taking Tannehill or Foles in the 2nd anyways?[/quote]

What would we be giving up for Flynn? A 3rd?

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-08-2012 12:12 AM

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I don't really want Flynn either. In my pre-combine draft rankings I have Tannehill and Foles 3rd and 4th respectively with Tannehill getting a late 1st round grade and Foles getting a mid 2nd round grade. Now last year we missed out on Andy Dalton an Colin Caepernick, (Not mad about that at all) this year is very similar to last year exception being there is no Christian Ponder reach-esque QB (YET) Although Tannehill maybe that guy, In my view you can't take Tannehill at 6. Too much reach and pressure. Now no one including me believes RGIII will last until pick six, so lets say we take Blackmon or Claiborne. Now it's pick 20, Tannehill is still on the board, do you trade up to get him or fall back and take Foles as a "consilation" prize? So basically it's Tannehill vs. Foles, do you give up a potential 1st rd pick in 2013 for Tannehill now?

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-08-2012 12:13 AM

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[quote=NM Redskin;873851]What would we be giving up for Flynn? A 3rd?[/quote]

Nothing. He is a unrestricted FA.

Big C 01-08-2012 12:14 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;873852]I don't really want Flynn either. In my pre-combine draft rankings I have Tannehill and Foles 3rd and 4th respectively with Tannehill getting a late 1st round grade and Foles getting a mid 2nd round grade. Now last year we missed out on Andy Dalton an Colin Caepernick, (Not mad about that at all) this year is very similar to last year exception being there is no Christian Ponder reach-esque QB (YET) Although Tannehill maybe that guy, In my view you can't take Tannehill at 6. Too much reach and pressure. Now no one including me believes RGIII will last until pick six, so lets say we take Blackmon or Claiborne. Now it's pick 20, Tannehill is still on the board, do you trade up to get him or fall back and take Foles as a "consilation" prize? [B]So basically it's Tannehill vs. Foles, do you give up a potential 1st rd pick in 2013 for Tannehill now?[/B][/quote]

absolutely not. i'd be happy with taking blackmon at 6 if RG3 isnt there, and trading into the late 1st to get foles or tannehill, but absolutely not for a future 1st. id give up the 2nd and maybe a 4th or something. trading into the back end of the 1st shouldnt require a future 1st.

Dirtbag59 01-08-2012 12:15 AM

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Has anyone mentioned the possibility of acquiring TJ Yates?

Big C 01-08-2012 12:16 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;873855]Has anyone mentioned the possibility of acquiring TJ Yates?[/quote]

hes been very average on a team with a hell of a lot more weapons that we have, in the same system. i didnt think he was any good in college, and i dont think he will be more than a backup in the pros.


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