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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880303]Put Michael Brockers in that group too.[/quote]
Still undecided on him, love his character, love his potential.. But he's benefiting from having played on an OUTSTANDING defense, and he didn't have top 6 production.

He's not going to come into camp day 1 and win a spot like we've seen with our last few 1st rounders.

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Am I the only one that thinks RG3 could be there at 6?
1. Colts/ Luck...
2. Rams/ Kalil
3. Vikings/ Claiborne
4. Browns/ Blackmon
5. Bucs/ Richardson

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[quote=BuckSkin;880309]Am I the only one that thinks RG3 could be there at 6?
1. Colts/ Luck...
2. Rams/ Kalil
3. Vikings/ Claiborne
4. Browns/ Blackmon
5. Bucs/ Richardson[/quote]

I think he WILL be there at 6 but everyone thinks everybody will be gone when we pick.

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[quote=BuckSkin;880309]Am I the only one that thinks RG3 could be there at 6?
1. Colts/ Luck...
2. Rams/ Kalil
3. Vikings/ Claiborne
4. Browns/ Blackmon
5. Bucs/ Richardson[/quote]

Would not surprise me in the least. And if he was, I'd be awfully tempted to say "Ok Miami we know you like RG3. Let's talk"

But I would only do that if we've secured at least one QB in free agency or via trade prior to the draft

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[quote=BuckSkin;880309]Am I the only one that thinks RG3 could be there at 6?
1. Colts/ Luck...
2. Rams/ Kalil
3. Vikings/ Claiborne
4. Browns/ Blackmon
5. Bucs/ Richardson[/quote]

1. Luck
2. Kalil / Blackmon
3. Kalil / Claiborne
4. RG3
5. Where the draft begins.

RG3 won't be there at 6, no chance whatsoever.

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[quote=SmootSmack;880311]Would not surprise me in the least. And if he was, I'd be awfully tempted to say "Ok Miami we know you like RG3. Let's talk"

But I would only do that if we've secured at least one QB in free agency or via trade prior to the draft[/quote]

If by some miracle RG3 is there at 6, we thank god and take him the second we're on the clock.

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[quote=IrMitchell;880312]1. Luck
2. Kalil / Blackmon
3. Kalil / Claiborne
4. RG3
5. Where the draft begins.

RG3 won't be there at 6, no chance whatsoever.[/quote]

See what I'm talking about? He could easily fall the way Brady Quinn and Aaron Rodgers did. It's completely possible. Not to 24 of course.

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[quote=SmootSmack;880311]Would not surprise me in the least. And if he was, I'd be awfully tempted to say "Ok Miami we know you like RG3. Let's talk"

But I would only do that if we've secured at least one QB in free agency or via trade prior to the draft[/quote]

They'd have to give me their 2nd, 3rd, and a potential player.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880315]See what I'm talking about? He could easily fall the way Brady Quinn and Aaron Rodgers did. It's completely possible.[/quote]
Just wait until RG3 runs between 4.35/4.45.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880316]They'd have to give me their 2nd, 3rd, and a potential player.[/quote]

Passing up RG3 to pick up a 3rd round pick is unjustifiable.

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[quote=IrMitchell;880317]Just wait until RG3 runs between 4.35/4.45.[/quote]

I already know he'll run that.

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I'm just not sold on Cleveland giving up on McCoy. Now granted it's fans on a board like this, but 70% of Browns faithful want to give him a weapon. Minnesota only has one starter on contract in their secondary. Rams just can't seem to "hit" on picks for O-line and Tampa could go DB.

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[quote=IrMitchell;880318]Passing up RG3 to pick up a 3rd round pick is unjustifiable.[/quote]

You didn't see what I wrote did you?

A whole lot can change with guys like Manning and Flynn on the qb market plus yes even Matt cassel may be available

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[quote=BuckSkin;880321]I'm just not sold on Cleveland giving up on McCoy. Now granted it's fans on a board like this, but 70% of Browns faithful want to give him a weapon. Minnesota only has one starter on contract in their secondary. Rams just can't seem to "hit" on picks for O-line and Tampa could go DB.[/quote]

Tampa should go DB with Talib maybe going to jail.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880320]I already know he'll run that.[/quote]

Best deep arm in the draft with 4.40 speed?

If there isn't a trade involved, he's going to be a Brown 100%. I'm not even that upset over it either because I'm going to cheer for him wherever he goes.

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Didn't mean to get off subject there, but I didn't want to start a mock draft thread just yet.

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[quote=IrMitchell;880326]Best deep arm in the draft with 4.40 speed?

If there isn't a trade involved, he's going to be a Brown 100%. I'm not even that upset over it either because I'm going to cheer for him wherever he goes.[/quote]

Weren't the Browns high on Matt Barkley? They seem to be in a good position to ride out McCoy till next year and get Barkley if McCoy doesnt work out.

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[quote=BuckSkin;880321]I'm just not sold on Cleveland giving up on McCoy. Now granted it's fans on a board like this, but 70% of Browns faithful want to give him a weapon. Minnesota only has one starter on contract in their secondary. Rams just can't seem to "hit" on picks for O-line and Tampa could go DB.[/quote]

Are you aware of Mike Holmgrens love for Seneca Wallace? Well, now that you are imagine him turning down the chance to take Seneca Wallace with 20 times the talent.

Minny may have a worse O line than they do secondary. They could go either way and come out a much improved team.

Matt Kalil is the best LT prospect since Jake Long. A certain teams draft history doesn't change that.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880322]You didn't see what I wrote did you?[/quote]

My mistake, I didn't realize you wanted all three. In that case, I agree 100%.

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[quote=NM Redskin;880329]Weren't the Browns high on Matt Barkley? They seem to be in a good position to ride out McCoy till next year and get Barkley if McCoy doesnt work out.[/quote]

Are the Browns going to pass up one top 3 QB prospect, for the #1 overall favorite?

I think they have a little more optimism than 1st overall.

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[quote=IrMitchell;880330]Are you aware of Mike Holmgrens love for Seneca Wallace? Well, now that you are imagine him turning down the chance to take Seneca Wallace with 20 times the talent.

Minny may have a worse O line than they do secondary. They could go either way and come out a much improved team.

Matt Kalil is the best LT prospect since Jake Long. A certain teams draft history doesn't change that.[/quote]

I agree that Kalil is the best lineman in the past couple of years, I was explaining why the Rams would go o-line....again.

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[quote=IrMitchell;880317]Just wait until RG3 runs between 4.35/4.45.[/quote]

Nobody really cares what a QB's 40 time is.

[quote=IrMitchell;880318]Passing up RG3 to pick up a 3rd round pick is unjustifiable.[/quote]


Says the guy who hasn't scouted players or understands the exact talents to look for in regards to this system. Did Mike sit down with you one day and go over what he's looking for in QB to fit his system?

[quote=IrMitchell;880326]If there isn't a trade involved, he's going to be a Brown 100%. [/quote]

They said the same thing about Rogers, Orakpo, and many other players that were top 5 guys. The only thing you know with 100% certainty when it comes to the draft is that you really don't know for certain.

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[quote=BuckSkin;880335]I agree that Kalil is the best lineman in the past couple of years, I was explaining why the Rams would go o-line....again.[/quote]

Kalil would be to the Rams what Calvin Johnson was to the Lions.

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has there ever been a more physically gifted wr than calvin johnson?

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[quote=los panda;880344]has there ever been a more physically gifted wr than calvin johnson?[/quote]

Randy Moss.

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i'll buy that. breaking tackles isn't a must for them

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[quote=diehard;880254]Hoyer = A.J. Feeley = don't believe the hype[/quote]

When I see Hoyer's name mentioned, I just can't help but think of the game he came in to last year when the Pats had it wrapped up. He started screwing up and threw an INT and back in came Brady.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;880217][IMG]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/redstout/fizzler.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

LOL, where do you come up with all these crazy off the wall, yet funny as hell pics?

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[quote=NC_Skins;880341]Nobody really cares what a QB's 40 time is.[/quote]You're trying to shrug off recent success of dynamic QBs. The truth is, if a QB can add a 4.40 to the best deep arm in the draft, you're going to do nothing but improve your stock. But you know this right, NC_Skins?

[quote]Says the guy who hasn't scouted players or understands the exact talents to look for in regards to this system. Did Mike sit down with you one day and go over what he's looking for in QB to fit his system?[/quote]Haha. Look at Shanahans quarterback history and maybe you'll have an idea for quarterbacks he likes. But, let's be honest... At this point we don't know what he likes, McNabb, Grossman and Beck were all supposed to be terrific football players. I think he'll settle for the most productive quarterback from this years draft.

[quote]They said the same thing about Rogers, Orakpo, and many other players that were top 5 guys. The only thing you know with 100% certainty when it comes to the draft is that you really don't know for certain.[/quote]I'm 100% certain that unless RG3 fails a drug test, suffers a long term injury or does something else that's stupid, he's going to be a top 5 pick. He won't be there at 6 and you can quote me on this.

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[quote=BuckSkin;880309]Am I the only one that thinks RG3 could be there at 6?
1. Colts/ Luck...
2. Rams/ Kalil
3. Vikings/ Claiborne
4. Browns/ Blackmon
5. Bucs/ Richardson[/quote]

I see what you are saying, but I think the rams are going to snag Blackmon with the #2 pick. Which will then leave the Browns with RG3 probably.

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[quote=IrMitchell;880352]You're trying to shrug off recent success of dynamic QBs. The truth is, if a QB can add a 4.40 to the best deep arm in the draft, you're going to do nothing but improve your stock. But you know this right, NC_Skins? [/quote]

Besides Cam Newton, which "dynamic QB" are you referring to? Vick? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I'll come back to you on that when I stop laughing.


[quote=IrMitchell;880352]Haha. Look at Shanahans quarterback history and maybe you'll have an idea for quarterbacks he likes. But, let's be honest... At this point we don't know what he likes, McNabb, Grossman and Beck were all supposed to be terrific football players. I think he'll settle for the most productive quarterback from this years draft. [/quote]

I think they went with Rex/Beck because he had no other option and it was a better fit (cost wise) than ponying up a bunch of money to a 36 year old vet (hasslebeck). One thing we do know, he obviously didn't like Gabbert that much, but probably would have drafted Locker.

[quote=IrMitchell;880352]I'm 100% certain that unless RG3 fails a drug test, suffers a long term injury or does something else that's stupid, he's going to be a top 5 pick. He won't be there at 6 and you can quote me on this.[/quote]

There again. You can say that all day long, but you don't know for 100% certain when it comes to the draft. You can guess or speculate, but you don't know. Now do I believe he'll be a top 5 selection? Of course I do, but I'm not foolish to sit here and say with 100% certainty.

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[quote=NC_Skins;880346]Randy Moss.[/quote]

Andre Johnson is in Calvins league in terms of freak of nature as was T.O. Randy was physically gifted but that was basically speed and height. The new guys have Randy's speed and height as well as unmatched strength and physicality for the Wide Receiver position.

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[quote=NC_Skins;880359]Besides Cam Newton, which "dynamic QB" are you referring to? Vick? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I'll come back to you on that when I stop laughing.

I think they went with Rex/Beck because he had no other option and it was a better fit (cost wise) than ponying up a bunch of money to a 36 year old vet (hasslebeck). One thing we do know, he obviously didn't like Gabbert that much, but probably would have drafted Locker.

There again. You can say that all day long, but you don't know for 100% certain when it comes to the draft. You can guess or speculate, but you don't know. Now do I believe he'll be a top 5 selection? Of course I do, but I'm not foolish to sit here and say with 100% certainty.[/quote]
Vick is absolutely a franchise QB, if you disagree than I don't know what to tell you.

Why do you say he would have drafted Locker? Did he sit down with you and say it? Or are you going off of Shanny's history and connecting him to a QB that can run the bootleg similarly to RG3? Funny that you say that, yet bash me. In fact RG3 is better than Jake Locker at every single aspect of football... And I loved Jake Locker last year.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's a top 5 selection, and considering you're going this far out of your way to tell me that I'm being "foolish", I'll say the same thing about you.

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Feck the system.
If Griffin is there you take him and make a new system.
Shanahan is totally blowing it in the QB dept so far.
The Redskins havent had a real QB since the dead sea was mildly ill.
You take that boy!!!

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[quote=IrMitchell;880373]Vick is absolutely a franchise QB, if you disagree than I don't know what to tell you.

Why do you say he would have drafted Locker? Did he sit down with you and say it? Or are you going off of Shanny's history and connecting him to a QB that can run the bootleg similarly to RG3? Funny that you say that, yet bash me. In fact RG3 is better than Jake Locker at every single aspect of football... And I loved Jake Locker last year.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's a top 5 selection, and considering you're going this far out of your way to tell me that I'm being "foolish", I'll say the same thing about you.[/quote]


I"m not even going to keep this up with you because you are putting words into my mouth that aren't even there.


[quote]Now do I believe he'll be a top 5 selection? Of course I do, but I'm not foolish to sit here and say with 100% certainty.[/quote]

I haven't bashed you about anything other than your 100% proclamation and your remark about RGIII not being picked if he's there at #6. If he isn't picked, it will most likely be for a good reason (much like Gabbert)

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[quote=Alvin Walton;880377]Feck the system.
If Griffin is there you take him and make a new system.
Shanahan is totally blowing it in the QB dept so far.
[B]The Redskins havent had a real QB since the dead sea was mildly ill.[/B]
You take that boy!!![/quote]

Good stuff. :rofl:

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The Browns would not pass on RGIII for two reasons:

1. RGIII is an exceptional talent.
2. Colt McCoy sucks.

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Unfortuneatly the Browns will not pass on RG3, in fact I can even see them trying to move up to make sure somebody such as us doesnt try to move up and snag him which i hope we do. RG3 will go top 5 just not sure to who.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;880263]You're better off not knowing but if you really want to know you can check out Alvin Walton's first few post in the Super Happy Fun Thread.[/quote]i saw some dolls but no freeze