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[quote=skinsfaninok;887404][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1063131-predicting-breakout-stars-for-all-32-nfl-teams-in-2012]Predicting Breakout Stars for All 32 NFL Teams in 2012 | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Leonard Hankerson, Wide Receiver

Provided the Redskins actually bring in an NFL quarterback in 2012, Hankerson should have a monster season in his second year.

He showed flashes of brilliance in his rookie campaign, his best performance coming in in Week 10 against the Miami Dolphins (his old stomping grounds from his record-setting days at Miami) totaling eight catches for 106 yards.

Unfortunately, his season was cut short on his eighth catch of that game as he tore his labrum, leading to surgery and a spot on the team's injured reserve list. He is in recovery now, and he should be good to go for training camp.

Hankerson is a productive receiver with speed and soft hands, and I'm expecting him to become an integral part of Mike Shanahan's offense for years to come with the Washington Redskins.

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[url=http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201202/troy-aikman-nfl-wont-continue-americas-no-1-sport]Troy Aikman: NFL May Not Remain No. 1 Sport | ThePostGame[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;887418]Jabar had a good year for sure, but he isn't the playmaker MM is/can be at times. Both are solid 2's[/quote]

JG is more consistent, while MM tends to be all or nothing.

I'd be leary of giving MM a big money deal based on what he did in the SB.

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Mike Wallace?

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word is Pittsburgh may have to let Wallace walk, I doubt they do though

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[quote=skinsfaninok;887436]word is Pittsburgh may have to let Wallace walk, I doubt they do though[/quote]

Patriots do have 2 #1 picks, one of which they could send to Pittsburgh for Wallace

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[quote=SmootSmack;887442]Patriots do have 2 #1 picks, one of which they could send to Pittsburgh for Wallace[/quote]

San Fran and Baltimore want a WR too...

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[quote=Giantone;887381]Manningham is still better then anything the Skins have now.[/quote]

I'd rather have Gaffney. Any day of the week, and twice on Sundays.


[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/46368-profootballfocus-best-worst-drop-rate-2011-a.html[/url]


Best.

[quote]1 Golden Tate SEA 35 35 0 0
2 Dez Bryant DAL 64 63 1 1.56
3 Malcom Floyd SD 44 43 1 2.27
4 Marques Colston NO 82 80 2 2.44
5 Reggie Wayne IND 77 75 2 2.6
6 Jordy Nelson GB 70 68 2 2.86
[U][B]7 Jabar Gaffney WAS 69 67 2 2.9[/B][/U]
8 Larry Fitzgerald ARZ 83 80 3 3.61
9 Deion Branch NE 53 51 2 3.77
10 Steve Breaston KC 64 61 3 4.69[/quote]


Worst.

[quote]82 Devin Aromashodu MIN 31 26 5 16.13
81 Roy E. Williams CHI 44 37 7 15.91
80 Jerome Simpson CIN 59 50 9 15.25
79 Brandon Marshall MIA 95 81 14 14.74
78 James Jones GB 44 38 6 13.64
77 Demaryius Thomas DEN 37 32 5 13.51
76 DeSean Jackson PHI 67 58 9 13.43
74 Devin Hester CHI 30 26 4 13.33
[B][U]75 Mario Manningham NYG 45 39 6 13.33[/U][/B]
73 Santana Moss WAS 53 46 7 13.21
72 Roddy White ATL 115 100 15 13.04 [/quote]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;887436]word is Pittsburgh may have to let Wallace walk, I doubt they do though[/quote]

They may have to [url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/21/talk-heats-up-in-pittsburgh-that-mike-wallace-could-leave/]Talk heats up in Pittsburgh that Mike Wallace could leave | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;887442]Patriots do have 2 #1 picks, one of which they could send to Pittsburgh for Wallace[/quote]

Sounds like B. Lloyd wants to reunite with his boy McDaniels, that could be a nice move for them.

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Would we be interested in Wallace? Would we have to send a 1st for him?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;887469]Would we be interested in Wallace? Would we have to send a 1st for him?[/quote]

Very few Wide Receivers are worth trading a 1st round pick. Mike Wallace is not one of those players.

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No he isn't. I was just wondering what his tender would be.

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They are saying 1st round, what happens of no one will give a 1st rounder for him but the steelers can't afford him?

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[quote=Pigskins;887478]They are saying 1st round, what happens of no one will give a 1st rounder for him but the steelers can't afford him?[/quote]

Just divide by 0.

Isn't Wallace unrestricted?

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I believe he's restricted.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/36411/these-arent-the-same-old-redskins]These aren't the 'same old Redskins' - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;887480]Just divide by 0.[/quote]

So no one gets him???

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[quote=CultBrennan59;887487][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/36411/these-arent-the-same-old-redskins]These aren't the 'same old Redskins' - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I'm sure we will still see a headline that says "Snyder is on a shopping spree again" from a lot of these sports writers. Good article though.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;887487][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/36411/these-arent-the-same-old-redskins]These aren't the 'same old Redskins' - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Good read

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in 2000 which pick was ours and which was from the saints?

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[quote=Dan Graziano]
What Gray and many other Redskins fans seem to be missing here is that Mike Shanahan can't just go to the "franchise quarterback" aisle at the Wegman's down the road from the team's Ashburn, Va., training facility and pick one.
[/quote]

He can't? I've been down that aisle twice and it's usually pretty stocked.

S/N: SS, I'm highly offended that you would choose to go public with the fact that my posts make your head hurt.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;887493]Good read[/QUOTE]

Very

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1074440-nfl-rumors-green-bay-packers-to-let-free-agent-c-scott-wells-walk]NFL Rumors: Green Bay Packers to Let Free-Agent Center Scott Wells Walk? | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;887450]I'd rather have Gaffney. Any day of the week, and twice on Sundays.
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...of course you would.:doh:

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[quote=Giantone;887621]...of course you would.:doh:[/quote]

Apparently you didn't even bother looking at that list I posted. Manningham is so inconsistent and unreliable. Even in that Super Bowl, I'm almost certain he had a couple drops that game.

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[quote=NC_Skins;887629]Apparently you didn't even bother looking at that list I posted. Manningham is so inconsistent and unreliable. Even in that Super Bowl, I'm almost certain he had a couple drops that game.[/quote]


I had him on my fantasy team I hate that guy! He had so many opportunities to be the man this year and he would drop balls left and right. Cruz stepped up and he was done.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;887384]Well seeing as we have one the worst WR corps.. Thats not a bold statement[/quote]

No...we have one of the worst QB corps and a mostly unknown WR corps. I would rather see what most of the guys we have can do with a vastly upgraded QB. I would like to see Royal come in and replace Moss and one other mid level WR signed. I would save the big money signings for OL and CB.

If Hankerson or Paul played with Eli Manning we would be sitting on here discussing signing them instead of Maningham.

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[quote=Giantone;887621]...of course you would.:doh:[/quote]

I would rather have Manningham then GB for sure. However, neither one are difference makers. Eli is the difference maker on the Giants.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;887481]Isn't Wallace unrestricted?[/quote]

He is restricted. If the Steelers don't franchise him they can still put a high offer sheet on him and get draft pick compensation if a team matches.

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We never have had a speedy WR from the Steelers before........

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[quote=tc2deuce;887772]We never have had a speedy WR from the Steelers before........[/quote]

Antwaan Randle El is no Mike Wallace.

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we just need a big dog who can stretch the yard when we let him off the leash. otherwise, i'm set with our wr group. wallace if almost faster than God

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[quote=CultBrennan59;887487][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/36411/these-arent-the-same-old-redskins]These aren't the 'same old Redskins' - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Plan "B" is all predicated on the notion that Peyton Manning will be healthy. And I quote:

"[I]That's the important thing to remember here, Redskins fans. Manning isn't a "fading star" who's past his prime. He was, before his neck injury, playing at as high a level as any quarterback in the league. He got hurt and missed a season. Now, it appears he'll be available again. And if he shows teams he can throw the ball the way he did in 2010, he's a smart short-term investment for a team that needs a quarterback answer now and for the future.[/I]"

"He was, before his neck injury..." That isn't very optimistic sounding.

Missing an entire season is pretty significant. Even if he has completely recovered from the surgery, the atrophy of not working out at a high level for a whole season means he is going to take a long time to build back up to the strength he once had.

If he shows teams he can throw the ball the way he did in 2010. He most likely won't IMO; at least not that quickly. Even if they neck surgery is fully healed, the nerves have to regenerate and that could mean they have not by the beginning of the upcoming season.

Manning will be 36 on Friday, which means by the time he builds back up to his former strength he simply may never be able to play at as high a level as before due to his age. I can foresee him working back up to playing shape this year and playing in 2013 for a season and maybe stretching it to 2014 at the latest.

Thoughts? I'd love to hear them as I know many of you have been critical of my negative view towards Peyton coming to the Skins.

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i'm happy to have manning here as a qb coach.

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Let me put it like this. If my options are:

Luck

RG3

Manning + 2nd tier draft pick aka Tannehill, Cousins, etc.

orrrrrrr

2nd tier FA qb/2nd tier draft pick single or combo

Give me anything from the first tier above. Second tier = disappointing.

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[url=http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/02/cowboys-executive-vp-stephen-j-2.html]Cowboys Executive VP Stephen Jones on LBs James and Brooking: 'Unfortunately, all good things come to an end' | Dallas Cowboys Blog | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | The Dallas Morning News[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;887828][url=http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/02/cowboys-executive-vp-stephen-j-2.html]Cowboys Executive VP Stephen Jones on LBs James and Brooking: 'Unfortunately, all good things come to an end' | Dallas Cowboys Blog | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | The Dallas Morning News[/url][/quote]

God I hate Keith Brookings... Really don't have much more to contribute beyond that.

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I cant stand him either