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[quote=CRedskinsRule;898680]aaaannnndddd back to no sympathy for those fans. So will you be joining us next season, or will you disappear again?[/quote]

Well, they finally signed a decent QB so we might see him a few times.



Dallas is losing Laurent Robinson though, he's visiting SF, Miami and Jacksonville.

One less target for Orton...the kid has some talent too.

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[quote=mooby;898668]130 mil can make a man delusional. CJ is good but he's not worth 19 mil a year.[/quote]

Stafford-Johnson is the centerpiece of that offense. Take one or the other away and it just...dies.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898652]Kyle Orton to Dallas on a 3 year deal[/quote]

What are the chances that Romo and RGIII are injured at the same time and thus Rex and Kyle finally get to have their duel...like in those Westerns? :FIREdevil

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[quote=firstdown;898662]Calvin Johnson was just doing a presser saying how he sacrificed for his team by signing this new deal. Come on man you got 130 mil[/quote]

I'll sacrifice for the team too!

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Anybody who thinks that there's a shortage of quarterbacks in this league want to try to explain why there's absolutely no market for free agent quarterbacks who aren't named: Manning?

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Patriots, Jets, Eagles, Lions all have interest in LaRon.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;898672]2 words for you....Albert Haynesworth.[/quote]

two words for you.........Roy Williams

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[quote=redskins5044;898738]two words for you.........Roy Williams[/quote]


Hoodwinked twice by guys with the same name too!

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[quote=redskins5044;898738]two words for you.........Roy Williams[/quote]

And Marion the Librarian.

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Pats sign Johnathan Fananene(?)

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;898750]Pats sign Johnathan Fananene(?)[/QUOTE]

It's the pats so that means this guy will be a pro bowler

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So Brandon Marshall gives a black eye to a woman over the weekend, Chicago knew and says here's 2 3rd Round picks? hmmmm strange play from Chicago

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[quote=GTripp0012;898734]Anybody who thinks that there's a shortage of quarterbacks in this league want to try to explain why there's absolutely no market for free agent quarterbacks who aren't named: Manning?[/quote]

a) several teams are waiting on Manning before making moves. They're still in the market - it's just a slow moving one. Manning is gumming up the works.

b) Orton and Campbell have signed. Henne has talked. Therefore there actually is a market outside of those waiting on Manning.

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Skins and Colts interested in Evan Mathis guard from Philly

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[quote=Lotus;898760]a) several teams are waiting on Manning before making moves. They're still in the market - it's just a slow moving one. Manning is gumming up the works.

b) Orton and Campbell have signed. Henne has talked. Therefore there actually is a market outside of those waiting on Manning.[/quote]b) was my point. Orton and Campbell were not-bottom-10 QBs last year who have already taken backup money (and in Campbell's case, a shot at the market next season). Garrard might go two weeks without a phone call (it's been like two months already). McNabb might not get a text until June, when Miami is that desperate.

And Flynn might have to re-up with Green Bay if Miami isn't willing to make him their starter.

The Flynn saga is interesting because two reports from his camp suggested that: 1) he's getting interest from Miami and Seattle and 2) he's getting interest from Cleveland and Miami. Ergo, the only interest he's actually getting is Miami. But you always need to give the impression of a second suitor.

Flynn might end up back as GB's backup in 2012 on a one year deal in the Campbell range for money.

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NFLN reports that Flynn has a planned visit with Seattle.

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[quote=Chico23231;898757]So Brandon Marshall gives a black eye to a woman over the weekend, Chicago knew and says here's 2 3rd Round picks? hmmmm strange play from Chicago[/quote]

They took Lloyd AND Archuletta off our hands, Roy Williams and Marion Barber from Dallas. I'm not shocked at anything they do.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;898680]aaaannnndddd back to no sympathy for those fans. So will you be joining us next season, or will you disappear again?[/quote]

Depends on if Dallas is winning or not.

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[quote=GTripp0012;898734]Anybody who thinks that there's a shortage of quarterbacks in this league want to try to explain why there's absolutely no market for free agent quarterbacks who aren't named: Manning?[/quote]


There isn't a shortage of QBs in the league. There is however a shortage on good QBs in the league. :)

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Giants signed Dallas TE Martellus Bennet.

Nice pickup for NJ, big loss for Dallas. Sure, they have Witten still, but Bennett was a nice second TE to have and if Witten goes down, they're TE-less.

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Chargers signed Ravens LB Jarret Johnson.

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Cowboys add Vickers and Carr

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;898705]Stafford-Johnson is the centerpiece of that offense. Take one or the other away and it just...dies.[/quote]

Not sure I believe that. Also, when it comes time for Stafford to renew his contract, you have to believe that 19mil is going to be the starting point, and most likely looking at 25-27/yr at high end. So combined, you are talking about 40+ mil/yr dedicated to 2 players? That's 1/3 of the salary cap, and dear god let's not even talk about what Suh is going to want come time to renew.

Is CJ worth it? Sure. Is it a smart business move? Absolutely not. I'm glad we aren't making this mistake.

Wow Dallas way overpaid for carr

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[quote=SmootSmack;898789]Cowboys add Vickers and Carr[/quote]

Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

Cowboys sign CB Brandon Carr to a 5-year, $50.1 million deal




hahaha...10mil/yr for Carr???

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[quote=GTripp0012;898768]b) was my point. Orton and Campbell were not-bottom-10 QBs last year who have already taken backup money (and in Campbell's case, a shot at the market next season). Garrard might go two weeks without a phone call (it's been like two months already). McNabb might not get a text until June, when Miami is that desperate.

And Flynn might have to re-up with Green Bay if Miami isn't willing to make him their starter.

The Flynn saga is interesting because two reports from his camp suggested that: 1) he's getting interest from Miami and Seattle and 2) he's getting interest from Cleveland and Miami. Ergo, the only interest he's actually getting is Miami. But you always need to give the impression of a second suitor.

Flynn might end up back as GB's backup in 2012 on a one year deal in the Campbell range for money.[/quote]

C'mon GTripp. Are you really going to use DMac and Garrard as barometers for whether or not there is a market for QB's?

Orton and JC (at least after Palmer showed up) were both backups last year. To me it is therefore unremarkable that they signed as backups this year. Your argument would be stronger if it were someone like Flacco who could only get a backup gig.

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Gints get a TE.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/24667/Giants-sign-TE-Martellus-Bennett/Default.aspx]Giants sign TE Martellus Bennett[/url]

Edit....looks like Monkeydude already reported this.

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Cowboys overspent for Carr... he's not worth 10 mil per

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[quote=Lotus;898793]C'mon GTripp. Are you really going to use DMac and Garrard as barometers for whether or not there is a market for QB's?

Orton and JC (at least after Palmer showed up) were both backups last year. To me it is therefore unremarkable that they signed as backups this year. Your argument would be stronger if it were someone like Flacco who could only get a backup gig.[/quote]They are a part of the available veteran QB market, so, yes, interest in them would be dependent on the strength of the market overall.

Flynn was also a backup last year, which would make it very remarkable that anyone who didn't finish the year as the no. 1 guy in their organization isn't finding a no. 1 job this year. If he goes from GB to Miami/Seattle, that's one guy moving up the chain, and Henne to Seattle/Jacksonville might make a second.

Last year Tavaris Jackson and Rex Grossman got starting jobs. They had to compete, sure, but the competition wasn't exactly mind numbing. It seems inarguable to say the market isn't strong as it was last year, at least . And I would go as far as saying that there's basically no interest in (defined by competition to sign) capable QBs.

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Well, we know of at least 2 teams that will be addressing their starting QB situation via the draft. :)

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The last few offseasons have been very bad for Dallas. They're definitely on a decline.

They're probably destined for last-place finish in the division.

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[quote=Monkeydad;898804]The last few offseasons have been very bad for Dallas. They're definitely on a decline.

They're probably destined for last-place finish in the division.[/quote]

Let's not say that to soon IMO. You are probably right.

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[quote=Mattyk;898803]Well, we know of at least 2 teams that will be addressing their starting QB situation via the draft. :)[/quote]It's probably more like six, at least by my count.

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Finnegan to the Rams:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txramsfinnegan]Rams agree to terms with CB Cortland Finnegan - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;898805]Let's not say that to soon IMO. You are probably right.[/quote]

Their cap space was next to nothing before blowing their load on Carr.

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[quote=vallin21;898801]Cowboys overspent for Carr... he's not worth 10 mil per[/quote]

And Jerry Jones will find that out when Carr is getting scorched consistently. For what it's worth, they could have agreed to a one year deal to re-sign Terrence Newman.

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Carr? that dude cant hold RG3 down. Cowboys in for a rude awaking come next season.

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[quote=GTripp0012;898802]They are a part of the available veteran QB market, so, yes, interest in them would be dependent on the strength of the market overall.

Flynn was also a backup last year, which would make it very remarkable that anyone who didn't finish the year as the no. 1 guy in their organization isn't finding a no. 1 job this year. If he goes from GB to Miami/Seattle, that's one guy moving up the chain, and Henne to Seattle/Jacksonville might make a second.

Last year Tavaris Jackson and Rex Grossman got starting jobs. They had to compete, sure, but the competition wasn't exactly mind numbing. It seems inarguable to say the market isn't strong as it was last year, at least . And I would go as far as saying that there's basically no interest in (defined by competition to sign) capable QBs.[/quote]
[quote=GTripp0012;898806]It's probably more like six, at least by my count.[/quote]

You and I don't disagree on the facts but we do disagree on their meaning.

Your original point was that there is not a shortage of quality QB's in the NFL. Yet by your own admission:
1) Jackson and Grossman both were starters last year
2) as many as 6 teams seek rookie starters this year

To me these facts say that there is, in fact, a shortage of quality quarterbacks in the NFL. Otherwise things would shake out differently. If there were no shortage of quality QB's, every team in theory could have quality QB play, but we know that this is not the case.

As for Flynn, the fact that he is not being sought by many teams as an instant starter may reflect the fact that Kolb, Cassel, and others have failed to make the backup-to-starter transition smoothly. If this perspective is correct, it further supports the argument that there is a shortage of quality QBs in the NFL.

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Browns released guard eric steinbach. I think we should contact him and bring him in if hes not expensive. Hes a good lineman.

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[quote=JoLo;898834]Browns released guard eric steinbach. I think we should contact him and bring him in if hes not expensive. Hes a good lineman.[/quote]

“@granthpaulsen: He'll be 32 on opening day. 8-yr vet has missed 2 games since '05. RT @JasonLaCanfora #Browns announce release of stalwart G Eric Steinbach"

He's older than shanny wants but with a clean injury background I think he could be a good short term stop gap