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theJBexperience 04-27-2012 10:50 PM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft (Day 2)
 
[quote=Chico23231;912732]I just called and Chad Rinehart was on the other end telling me dont worry, Leribeus will pan out after he gets cut and plays for another team.[/quote]

Loving your replies tonight! Another zinger. Wocka Wocka.

mlmpetert 04-27-2012 10:51 PM

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[quote=redsk1;912733]Like him already:

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/redskins-confidential/2012/04/redskins-select-smu-gc/544881]Redskins select SMU G/C | Washington Examiner[/url][/quote]


From link
"LeRibeus said every team he worked out for had him take snaps at center, too. He played in a man blocking scheme at SMU, but said he played in a zone scheme during the Shrine Game. The Redskins use a zone blocking scheme."

Im guessing we drafted him as guard, but you never know.

I got no problems. Seems like a nice guy.

Chico23231 04-27-2012 10:51 PM

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hold on, Brandon Taylor, Brandon Brooks and Dwight Bently were still on the board and we still drafted Josha McRibeus? mutherf*cker

Gtothearry 04-27-2012 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=81forHOF;912739]You don't but he sat out a year for gaining 70lbs.[/QUOTE]

Or because you switch majors and the result is not enough credit hours to be elidgible.

SirClintonPortis 04-27-2012 10:53 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;912738]Speed isn't the name of the game. Offensive line is all about quickness. I'd grade out his footwork at an A- based on the combine footage I aw.[/quote]
Yep.
As I mentioned, people really need to start looking at 20-yard shuttles and 3-cone drills for OLinemen instead of 40 times. Now, he isn't that great in either category, but not so low as to say he's lethargic. Lichtensteiger's 40 is also awful(a 5.25), as I have already mentioned.

And Leribeus has hit the weight room, putting out a decent bench press.

81forHOF 04-27-2012 10:54 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;912731]I love how so many people here act like this guy should have gone in 5th-7th round because AFTER we drafted him they did a google search and in 20 seconds saw some website comprised of opinions of people who are NOT NFL GMs gave him that grade. Our front office, and the other 31, pay staffs of scouts, coaches, and gms lots of money to evaluate college players. Team staffs spend MONTHS researching all these players in depth, and give each one of them a grade based on feedback provided by scouts, position coaches, coordinators, head coah, etc. but some people here label this guy a reach and piss on MONTHS of work because of a 20 second google search.

So if you're one of those who instantly criticized this pick, tell us all:

What do you know about him in 20 seconds that our team didn't find out in their extensive research?[/quote]

a reach is a reach. You don't have to be Albert Einstein to spot one. It is obvious they liked the guy and he very well maybe a a great player for us, which is the most important thing. I think what people are disappointed about is the possibility they could have got a higher ranked player AND this guy as well. I guess the FO's logic is that if they had him ranked this high then another team may of also so just be safe and take him now.

imaskin4life 04-27-2012 10:54 PM

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[quote=redsk1;912733]Like him already:

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/redskins-confidential/2012/04/redskins-select-smu-gc/544881]Redskins select SMU G/C | Washington Examiner[/url][/quote]

It's a very good sign that coach Shannahan coached him at the senior bowl using the zone blocking system so he knows what he is getting.

SirClintonPortis 04-27-2012 10:55 PM

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[quote=Gtothearry;912744]Or because you switch majors and the result is not enough credit hours to be elidgible.[/quote]

Ah, so a mere technicality. Then its a non-issue.

mlmpetert 04-27-2012 10:55 PM

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[quote=81forHOF;912739]You don't but he sat out a year for gaining 70lbs.[/quote]

Anyone know how BMW is doing? I kind of felt like as soon as his career ended was going to gain all his weight back in like 6 months.

theJBexperience 04-27-2012 10:55 PM

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I'm liking Indy's draft. They're surrounding Andrew Luck pretty well.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-27-2012 10:59 PM

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[quote=theJBexperience;912740]So should we have done extensive research as well to be entitled to an opinion? What should our opinions be based on? Blind faith? Sorry, I didn't pour through MONTHS of game tape to base my opinion. I take it all back. I can't wait to see LeRibeus in the Pro Bowl. Oh, wait...[/quote]

If you base your opinion of a person on a few seconds of Internet reading, and that opinion is contrary to that of people who spent months doing research, then it means one of two things:

1) you're a moron
2) you think too highly of your own Ill-informed opinions

81forHOF 04-27-2012 10:59 PM

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[quote=81forHOF;912739]You don't but he sat out a year for gaining 70lbs.[/quote]

Looks like I was wrong on that. But he did gain the weight.

ethat001 04-27-2012 10:59 PM

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Teams working him at center, so may plug in at multiple positions. Hope they know what they're doing. With two fourth rounders, would have assumed this guy would have been there to take later.

Good thing Shanahan can make these mid-round draft picks turn into gold, because I'm disappointed by what seems like reach. I'm hoping he's more than Chad Rinehart, another one drafted too early in the 3rd round -- who's off our team.

skinsnut 04-27-2012 11:00 PM

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I think this kid was a captain too....Allen and Shanny love picking captains

budw38 04-27-2012 11:00 PM

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If LeRibus wins a Starting spot at G or C in a year or two , where he was drafted won't matter , and we added another pick .

SirClintonPortis 04-27-2012 11:02 PM

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[quote=81forHOF;912739]You don't but he sat out a year for gaining 70lbs.[/quote]

Lifestyle change. Simply moving from being mostly sedentary to doing cardio and getting back to training and practice will started increasing the calorie consumption rate. This is not a chronic issue with him.

CultBrennan59 04-27-2012 11:03 PM

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[quote=budw38;912756][B][U][SIZE="7"]If[/SIZE][/U][/B] LeRibus wins a Starting spot at G or C in a year or two , where he was drafted won't matter , and we added another pick .[/quote]

Keyword..

backrow 04-27-2012 11:03 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;912708]lol seriously smh[/quote]

Since I've seen this text speak a lot, I finally had to look it up to understand it.

IMHO while SMH at the pick, I don't think it was a CWOT. But I CSL B/C youseguys answer all q's and OMG, even NEWBs are bringing the msg that Josh L is K and not totally FUBAR. So, DWBH cuz AFIK and AAMOF Josh is not to totally H8 nor is he HHIS. IOW he is not NOOB. So PLZ W8 & TC BC there is never TMI here. :rant:

MTK 04-27-2012 11:03 PM

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He should get credit for losing the weight, much easier to gain it than lose it.

SirClintonPortis 04-27-2012 11:04 PM

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[quote=ethat001;912754]Teams working him at center, so may plug in at multiple positions. Hope they know what they're doing. With two fourth rounders, would have assumed this guy would have been there to take later.

Good thing Shanahan can make these mid-round draft picks turn into gold, because I'm disappointed by what seems like reach. I'm hoping he's more than Chad Rinehart, another one drafted too early in the 3rd round -- who's off our team.[/quote]

He's also got some size and ooomph. Seems like Shanny is higher increased his standards now that he doesn't have 8 games one mile above sea level and the NFC East is one bloodthirsty divsion on defense.

mlmpetert 04-27-2012 11:07 PM

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[quote=skinsnut;912755]I think this kid was a captain too....Allen and Shanny love picking captains[/quote]

I believe there was an entire thread about this. Initially thought to be a strategy employed only by the KC Chiefs, it was later believed that many drafted players are captains because normally only the best players on college teams are the ones to be named captains. I remember a lot of pics of various cartoon captains as well.

Chico23231 04-27-2012 11:09 PM

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there is actually some decent talent going into the 4th tomorrow. Hopefully we can grab some without reaching.

Ruhskins 04-27-2012 11:10 PM

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I can't believe we are making comparisons to players Vinny Cerrato drafted. :doh:

imaskin4life 04-27-2012 11:10 PM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft (Day 2)
 
[quote=81forHOF;912746]I guess the FO's logic is that if they had him ranked this high then another team may of also so just be safe and take him now.[/quote]

Thats the general rule: If you like the guy you should take him. Your assumption that he will be there later may not come to pass: you don't know if he will be there later or not. You can ASSUME but you really don't know. If you like him and the next option available is significantly worse, then it is smarter to take him now while you can and accept the criticism for taking him "too early" vs. risking losing him because you knew he would be there later.

Chico23231 04-27-2012 11:13 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;912764]I can't believe we are making comparisons to players Vinny Cerrato drafted. :doh:[/quote]

well with the way the 3rd round went for us today, Vonte Burfice should be wearing burgundy and gold by 1 pm tomorrow.

CultBrennan59 04-27-2012 11:13 PM

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BPA

Markelle Martin
Bobbie Massie
Chris Polk
Chris Givens
Lamar Miller
Billy Winn
David Molk
Josh Norman
Ladarius Green
Senio Kelemete
Ben Jones
Antonio Allen
Robert Turbin
James Michael Johnson
Joe Adams
Jarius Wright
Jared Crick
Brandon Boykin
Orson Charles
Marvin Jones
George Iloka
Alfonzo Dennard
Alamadea Ta'amu
DaQuan Menzie
Levy Adcock
Ron Brooks
Leonard Johnson
Josh Chapman
Ryan Steed
Andrew Datko
Danny Coale
Brandon Washington
Nate Potter
Terrence Gannaway
Dwight Jones
Kheston Randall
Juron Criner
Aaron Henry
Nick Toon
Chas Minnifield
Travis Lewis
Justin Bethel
Devon Wylie
Philip Blake
Philip Thomas
Christian thompson
Kellen moore
Duke Ihechiano
Janzen Jackson
Tank Carder
Keith Tandy
Omar Bolden
Kelcie McCray

theJBexperience 04-27-2012 11:13 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;912752]If you base your opinion of a person on a few seconds of Internet reading, and that opinion is contrary to that of people who spent months doing research, then it means one of two things:

1) you're a moron
2) you think too highly of your own Ill-informed opinions[/quote]

You're right the months of research has paid off on guys like Dennis Morris, Terrence Austin, and Selvish Capers. Why wouldn't I think every pick will pan out just like the FO hopes? I should never question Bruce & Co. If it weren't for them, I'd have to read draft magazines and look at draft websites. What a waste of time that would be. I could never get those few seconds back. I'm glad I have Bruce Almighty to base my opinions on.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-27-2012 11:17 PM

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Lamar Miller should be there by our pick in the 4th.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-27-2012 11:18 PM

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Theres a difference between forming reasonable opinions and knee jerk reactions.

There are people here who's opinions I pay attention to and those I don't. Some shed insight. Others remind me of why I left extremeskins. Anyone who justifies their opinion by taking the opposite opinion to the extreme to point its ridiculousness ca t be taken seriously.

warriorzpath 04-27-2012 11:19 PM

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Obviously, the Redskins thought that LeRibeus was going to be drafted before their next pick and they thought he was the best interior offensive lineman left.

All of this is not going to matter in the end as long as LeRibeus plays well. Just like any other draft pick, only time will tell.

Ruhskins 04-27-2012 11:19 PM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft (Day 2)
 
[quote=theJBexperience;912768]You're right the months of research has paid off on guys like Dennis Morris, Terrence Austin, and Selvish Capers. Why wouldn't I think every pick will pan out just like the FO hopes? I should never question Bruce & Co. If it weren't for them, I'd have to read draft magazines and look at draft websites. What a waste of time that would be. I could never get those few seconds back. I'm glad I have Bruce Almighty to base my opinions on.[/quote]

[IMG]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3403/3550421231_05e7939d58.jpg[/IMG]

81forHOF 04-27-2012 11:21 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;912767]BPA

Markelle Martin
Bobbie Massie
Chris Polk
Chris Givens
Lamar Miller
Billy Winn
David Molk
Josh Norman
Ladarius Green
Senio Kelemete
Ben Jones
Antonio Allen
Robert Turbin
James Michael Johnson
Joe Adams
Jarius Wright
Jared Crick
Brandon Boykin
Orson Charles
Marvin Jones
George Iloka
Alfonzo Dennard
Alamadea Ta'amu[/quote]

Really like Martin, Masse, Kelemente and Dennard. LMAO on the Artie Lang thing!

BigHairedAristocrat 04-27-2012 11:22 PM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft (Day 2)
 
[quote=warriorzpath;912771]Obviously, the Redskins thought that LeRibeus was going to be drafted before their next pick and they thought he was the best interior offensive lineman left.

All of this is not going to matter in the end as long as LeRibeus plays well. Just like any other draft pick, only time will tell.[/quote]

After drafting griffin, depth along the line had to be our priority. Shanahan loves competition and he's giving our interior guys (none of whom are highly acclaimed) someone to worry about.

theJBexperience 04-27-2012 11:22 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;912769]Lamar Miller should be there by our pick in the 4th.[/quote]

I'd like Lamar Miller, but I'm only basing that off his Ohio State, VT, and FSU games. I haven't spent months researching and watching all his game tape, so I'll have to wait for Bruce & Co. to tell me how to think.

diehardskin2982 04-27-2012 11:23 PM

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Honestly I feel like we didn't lose anything picking LeRibeus in the 3rd. I thought gaurd was a huge need for us Polk, Rainey and Thomas are still available tomorrow.

Ruhskins 04-27-2012 11:24 PM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;912776]Honestly I feel like we didn't lose anything picking LeRibeus in the 3rd. I thought gaurd was a huge need for us Polk, Rainey and Thomas are still available tomorrow.[/quote]

We actually gained a 7th rounder with the trade down.

81forHOF 04-27-2012 11:25 PM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft (Day 2)
 
[quote=imaskin4life;912765]Thats the general rule: If you like the guy you should take him. Your assumption that he will be there later may not come to pass: you don't know if he will be there later or not. You can ASSUME but you really don't know. If you like him and the next option available is significantly worse, then it is smarter to take him now while you can and accept the criticism for taking him "too early" vs. risking losing him because you knew he would be there later.[/quote]
I agree but the gambler in me says throw the dice. I think to be a truly great GM you have to peek in your shorts on draft day to see if you have a pair.

warriorzpath 04-27-2012 11:31 PM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft (Day 2)
 
[quote=theJBexperience;912768]You're right the months of research has paid off on guys like Dennis Morris, Terrence Austin, and Selvish Capers. Why wouldn't I think every pick will pan out just like the FO hopes? I should never question Bruce & Co. If it weren't for them, I'd have to read draft magazines and look at draft websites. What a waste of time that would be. I could never get those few seconds back. I'm glad I have Bruce Almighty to base my opinions on.[/quote]


I'm not saying you're wrong with questioning the redskins draft picks in this current regime, but comparing the LeRibeus pick to one 6th rounder and 2 7th rounders is not a proper comparison. Plus Terrence Austin, as a 7th rounder, has actually been a contributor to the the team.

drew54 04-27-2012 11:37 PM

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Barring a trade, Lamar Miller is a possibility as everyone above the Skins except the Texans have drafted a RB this year.

I think CB will be the next pick.

Chief X_Phackter 04-27-2012 11:41 PM

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Hell, the Skins got a C grade from Pete Prisco so he can't be that bad...That's like an A- at least :)


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