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[quote=The Dull Roar;913128]Eagles take another one I wanted... Awesome.[/quote]

Just like they took that Macho Harris guy.

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i'm just glad we haven't selected a rb

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still, we passed on massie, boykin, taamu...

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[quote=WilbursHomie;913127]So we used all our brain cells on RG3 apparently. These picks make our third round pick look amazing.[/quote]

4th rounders and below are for addressing depth. Anything more is very welcome, but should not be expected.

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[quote=That Guy;913133]still, we passed on massie, boykin, taamu...[/quote]

If the FO wanted these guys, they likely would have taken them.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;913119]Wait ... an OLB?

Kerrigan, White, Jackson, Orakpo ... aren't we deep in young talent at that position? Am I missing something? What about OT? DB? ILB? Aren't we in need there? ... not sure what the thinking is.[/quote]

He's an ILB. But even if he was an OLB, just because White and Jackson are on our roster, doesn't mean they have any talent...which they don't.

Also, look at every good drafting team in the NFL. Position is close to irrelivant when drafting. The giants took Pierre-Paul to rush the passer when they already had Osi, Tuck, Kiwanuka, Canty, and Toleffson. I think that pick panned out.

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You gotta think that the plan for Robinson is to beef him up and make him an ILB.

He's too slow to be an OLB or safety.

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I just can't get enough of that Cars.com commercial (sarcasm)

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[quote=Lotus;913137]You gotta think that the plan for Robinson is to beef him up and make him an ILB.

He's too slow to be an OLB or safety.[/quote]

Everything I read says his speed is his biggest asset.

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Well I am off to start my day, can't believe i waited around for some camp fodder.

if it wasn't for the RG3 trade this draft would have been a complete bust.

We got us a QB!

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[quote=Lotus;913137]You gotta think that the plan for Robinson is to beef him up and make him an ILB.

He's too slow to be an OLB or safety.[/quote]

He isn't slow.

4.7 40 is not slow.

But Boykin was there to be had. I wonder if somebody moved on from last years's draft team.

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4.79 for an olb is slow. for an ilb its average.

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First - I am good with drafting depth and developmental guys. I disagree that Jackson and White lack talent - I thought they flashed well when playing. It is b/c we have young depth at the OLB position that I wonder going for even more of it when we could certainly use some youth & developmental players at the ILB position. If this guy is going for ILB - fine. Just seems a little light for the job. A real project - even more so than Riley.

BUT, again, after last year's draft, I am willing to cut the FO a [I]lot[/I] of slack.

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every scouting report ive read has said hes very athletic and fast.

[url=http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OLB/Keenan-Robinson.php]Keenan Robinson, Texas, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com[/url]

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[quote=That Guy;913142]4.79 for an olb is slow. for an ilb its average.[/quote]

Not really. He is plenty fast.

Mathias Kiwanuka, DS #4 DE, Boston College
Selected: Round 1, Pick 32, Overall Pick 32 by Giants

Name: Mathias Kiwanuka
College: Boston College Number: 94
Height: 6-6 Weight: 266
Position: DE Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006
40 Time: 4.70 40 Low: 40 High:

Philadelphia always draft s we'll

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Haslett already told Keenan Robinson he'll play ILB. He also played with Rak and they still train from time to time. I think it's a really good fit.

If he was drafted to play inside, It looks a lot better.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;913147]Philadelphia always draft s we'll[/quote]

They certainly did this time. Fantastic draft from the birds.

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[quote=Sonny9TD;913145]Not really. He is plenty fast.

Mathias Kiwanuka, DS #4 DE, Boston College
Selected: Round 1, Pick 32, Overall Pick 32 by Giants

Name: Mathias Kiwanuka
College: Boston College Number: 94
Height: 6-6 Weight: 266
Position: DE Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006
40 Time: 4.70 40 Low: 40 High:[/quote]

he weighs 24 lbs more, is .09 faster... mario williams weighed 290 and ran a 4.7.

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[quote=12thMan;913148]Haslett already told Keenan Robinson he'll play ILB. He also played with Rak and they still train from time to time. I think it's a really good fit.[/quote]

Are you saying "I have seen the reports that indicate that Haslett has said he will play inside" OR "I am betting that Haslett has aready told him he is going to be playing inside."

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[quote=That Guy;913151]he weighs 24 lbs more, is .09 faster... mario williams weighed 290 and ran a 4.7.[/quote]

That really has nothing to do with 4.7 being slow. I think we know that is plenty fast.

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Mosley just went to Giants

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[quote=12thMan;913148]Haslett already told Keenan Robinson he'll play ILB. He also played with Rak and they still train from time to time. I think it's a really good fit.[/quote]

Yeah hes playing ILB, but if he has the athleticism to play a little olb thats good. A 4th round LB is gonna be asked to play teams and know multiple positions. I would have preferred a cb or a lineman but i like this pick.

[url]http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=71569&draftyear=2012&genpos=OLB[/url]

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No, Keenan Robinson said Jim Haslett told him that he'll play ILB. Robinson told reporters this via conference call today.

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Texans know how to draft...Jared Crick, beast.

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The thing about Kirk Cousins this year that a decent of people don't seem to understand. He's this years Leonard Hankerson. Very talented prospect that went two round later then they should have. Incredible value especially when you consider the fact that you don't have to worry about developing him to be the guy for at least 3 years and thats only as a worst case scenario that won't happen.

Obviously I'm not an NFL scout but in terms of QB's Cousins was probably my favorite second tier QB and my top choice if we missed out on RG3.

For me it was

1a. Luck
1b. RG3
3. Cousins
4. Weeden
5. Tannehill
6. Moore
7. Brock Osweiler

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[quote=Sonny9TD;913153]That really has nothing to do with 4.7 being slow. I think we know that is plenty fast.[/quote]
first, he's not a 4.7 guy, he's a 4.8 guy, and second, 4.8 is pretty average. your proof that it wasn't was someone that was faster and heavier than him, which is pretty pointless.

I never said it wasn't fast enough, but it's NOT fast. you're welcome to disagree, but please don't tell me what i know or think.

thanks.

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[quote=Sonny9TD;913153]That really has nothing to do with 4.7 being slow. I think we know that is plenty fast.[/quote]

Apparently he's good in coverage but I'm not sure if he'll make the team. I mean he could but I just don't see it. I'm getting the same vibe I got with Cody Glenn in 2009.

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6'3 -242 lbs. -4.79 40 yd - 10feet broad jump -35.5 inch vertical leap -27 reps 225 lb bench press. 3 year starter at Texas - a leader- he should be fine if he stays close to Fletcher to learn and improve on his weaknesses.

35.5" vertical/ 225 lbs. 27 reps - wow.

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[quote=imaskin4life;913161]6'3 -242 lbs. -4.79 40 yd - 10feet broad jump -35.5 inch vertical leap -27 reps 225 lb bench press. 3 year starter at Texas - a leader- he should be fine if he stays close to Fletcher to learn and improve on his weaknesses.

35.5" vertical/ 225 lbs. 27 reps - wow.[/quote]

I like the way he takes on blocks and fights through coverage but again we're getting to the point in the draft where you're mostly going to find special teamers and the like.

When I see the FO take an OL or a RB I feel confident that said player will be able to perform but every other position is a toss up.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;913160]Apparently he's good in coverage but I'm not sure if he'll make the team. I mean he could but I just don't see it. I'm getting the same vibe I got with Cody Glenn in 2009.[/quote]

I definitely think he makes the team with an ageing Fletcher and given how thin we are at LB.

[QUOTE=SirClintonPortis;913134]4th rounders and below are for addressing depth. Anything more is very welcome, but should not be expected.[/QUOTE]

Well yeah, but I think the only position on the field that we are probably ok at depth wise is OLB and now QB. If he's inside, that makes a ton more sense to me. Even if he's playing small, I don't care, He can still be good especially on 3rd downs in coverage.

A bit late, but I like the Cousins pick. He can develop as RG3's back up and hey maybe we can trade him later on if he becomes a solid QB.

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[quote=That Guy;913159]first, he's not a 4.7 guy, he's a 4.8 guy, and second, 4.8 is pretty average. your proof that it wasn't was someone that was faster and heavier than him, which is pretty pointless.

I never said it wasn't fast enough, but it's NOT fast. you're welcome to disagree, but please don't tell me what i know or think.

thanks.[/quote]

You did say it wasn't fast enough. You said he was too slow. I sure didn't tell you what you think. But what you think is incorrect. He is not to slow. Below you see there really isn't that much difference so you're "being to slow" comment is incorrect. Your welcome.

Mathias Kiwanuka DE 6í5 255 Boston College
By: Robert Davis

NFL Combine Stats: 40-yard dash - 4.73

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Please any tackle from Florida State or a Guard from Iowa.

I hope Cousins is prepared to only play weeks 15 and 16 when we're resting our starters after clinching the East for tge next 10 seasons. BOOYAH.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;913167]Please any tackle from Florida State or a Guard from Iowa.[/quote]

I think we get an OL pick here

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Haha..weird to say this, but this is probably the first time I'm hearing that a black guy isn't fast enough. Bravo gents.

Okay, carry on.

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Hmm, they must have liked Robinson at the senior Bowl.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umNLuffcidY]Keenan Robinson 1/25/2012 Senior Bowl Interview - YouTube[/url]

Interesting, he provides some versatility if he can play both inside and out.