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CultBrennan59 01-09-2013 04:52 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Monkeydad;987136]Call me crazy but I'd bring LaRon back now that he's apparently healthy. He missed the team bus in Week 17 and had his snaps limited by the tattooed whale, so he's probably open to leaving New Jersey.

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4178/laron-landry"]LaRon Landry - New York Jets - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/URL][/quote]

The thing with LaRon is that I'm pretty sure he and the coaches didn't like each other. (Atleast I read that somewhere on here)

Chico23231 01-09-2013 05:24 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Ruhskins;987025]The same guy that just got arrested for signing a window-tint ticket "f*ck y'all"?

[url=http://whnt.com/2013/01/08/breaking-rolando-mcclain-arrested-again-in-morgan-county/]Rolando McClain Arrested Again In Morgan County | WHNT.com — Huntsville News & Weather from WHNT Television News19 HD[/url][/quote]

that false name stuff never works. when you do that a simple window for tint turns into something else, what a pos

calia 01-09-2013 05:39 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
I wouldn't bring back Landry -- I still think his health isn't enough of a certainty, and he had the habit of going for the knockout punch instead of the sure tackle -- kind of the strong safety equivalent of Hall. But I think we definitely need someone more physical in the safety position, and some better speed at free safety. Merriweather brings both, but we likely need an addition at strong safety. Who the heck knows what will happen with T. Jackson.

I also think considering moving Hall to safety (where coverage is a bit easier) isn't a bad idea. He apparently said he knows he has a big cap number and would re-structure to stay. And I thought he stepped up pretty well during the latter part of the season. Plus, we cannot fix everything in the secondary in the off season. It will be interesting to see if Bernstine can return healthy -- we never really got a good look at the rook.

For offseason stuff, modest moves in the secondary, some more O-line depth (we cannot assume that we'd be able to keep that line as healthy as we did this year -- it was pretty amazing how well that came together), and perhaps some more RB depth (unless we're sure that Helu can come back healthy and stay that way) would seem to make sense.

Sonny9TD 01-10-2013 11:54 AM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
Well here are some draft picks to consider.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1478416-2013-mock-draft-the-smartest-pick-the-redskins-can-make-at-every-spot/page/2]2013 Mock Draft: The Smartest Pick the Redskins Can Make at Every Spot | Bleacher Report[/url]

Monkeydad 01-10-2013 12:12 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Sonny9TD;987381]Well here are some draft picks to consider.

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1478416-2013-mock-draft-the-smartest-pick-the-redskins-can-make-at-every-spot/page/2"]2013 Mock Draft: The Smartest Pick the Redskins Can Make at Every Spot | Bleacher Report[/URL][/quote]

Swearinger, what a great name.


Safety in Round 3 is great but a WR in round 5 and no offensive line until Round 6? Also, no CB is an issue unless we're going through FA.

I can understand a late WR pick because our guys did drop way balls this year.

los panda 01-10-2013 12:18 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Sonny9TD;987381]Well here are some draft picks to consider.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1478416-2013-mock-draft-the-smartest-pick-the-redskins-can-make-at-every-spot/page/2]2013 Mock Draft: The Smartest Pick the Redskins Can Make at Every Spot | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote][url]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/50089-2013-nfl-draft-prospects.html[/url]

Chico23231 01-10-2013 12:42 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Monkeydad;987391]Swearinger, what a great name.


Safety in Round 3 is great but a WR in round 5 and no offensive line until Round 6? Also, no CB is an issue unless we're going through FA.

I can understand a late WR pick because our guys did drop way balls this year.[/quote]

CB is an issue because we have 1 incredibly overpaid CB who we presume will be cut because of no cap hit and another CB in the last year of his deal. Both are the only vets under contract and both are starters. Drafting one and acquiring in FA would be ideal.

SkinzWin 01-10-2013 12:54 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Monkeydad;987391]Swearinger, what a great name.


Safety in Round 3 is great but a WR in round 5 and no offensive line until Round 6? Also, no CB is an issue unless we're going through FA.

I can understand a late WR pick because our guys did drop way balls this year.[/quote]

The article has us taking CB David Amerson in the second round. How is that not taking a CB?

CultBrennan59 01-10-2013 01:31 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
This should be in the draft thread, not FA. And Amerson is a CB but some scouts have projected him to FS

los panda 01-10-2013 01:44 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;987403]This should be in the draft thread, not FA. And Amerson is a CB but some scouts have projected him to FS[/quote]that's what i'm saying[quote=los panda;987392][url]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/50089-2013-nfl-draft-prospects.html[/url][/quote]

Chico23231 01-10-2013 01:56 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;987403]This should be in the draft thread, not FA. And[B] Amerson [/B]is a CB but some scouts have projected him to FS[/quote]

he sux, just like Bleacher Report

KI Skins Fan 01-10-2013 01:57 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
I feel that the first thing we need to do in FA is to re-sign our own Fred Davis and Rob Jackson.

After that, I'd like to see the Skins try to address FS, the pass rush, 3rd Down RB, and KR/PR.

I think the following players could help us:

1. Jarius Byrd, FS - He would provide a big upgrade as our starting FS.
2. Osi Umeniyora, DE - We could use him as a pass rushing specialist.
3. Josh Cribbs, KR/WR/RB - Explosive player. Instant upgrade to KR/PR. Also could use him as a backup WR or on 3rd down out of the backfield.

punch it in 01-10-2013 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=Sonny9TD;987381]Well here are some draft picks to consider.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1478416-2013-mock-draft-the-smartest-pick-the-redskins-can-make-at-every-spot/page/2]2013 Mock Draft: The Smartest Pick the Redskins Can Make at Every Spot | Bleacher Report[/url][/QUOTE]

Ray Ray Armstrong in the 7th would be a steal. Not sure about using a pick on a wr but i love the rest of them. Would need to go after a rt in fa for sure.

punch it in 01-10-2013 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;987411]I feel that the first thing we need to do in FA is to re-sign our own Fred Davis and Rob Jackson.

After that, I'd like to see the Skins try to address FS, the pass rush, 3rd Down RB, and KR/PR.

I think the following players could help us:

1. Jarius Byrd, FS - He would provide a big upgrade as our starting FS.
2. Osi Umeniyora, DE - We could use him as a pass rushing specialist.
3. Josh Cribbs, KR/WR/RB - Explosive player. Instant upgrade to KR/PR. Also could use him as a backup WR or on 3rd down out of the backfield.[/QUOTE]

I like Crawford and Paul as kr/pr. Osi sort of goes against the youth movement and wouldnt he come at a steep price? We definitely need help at pass rush, but we are getting Rak and Carriker back and the pass rush seemed to be improving. Better secondary would help the pass rush too. RT and secondary. MLB.
Also Helu can be our third down back.
Edit: Bernstine and BW will also be back. I think alot of our answers are already wearing the B&G.

Ruhskins 01-10-2013 03:09 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;987411]I feel that the first thing we need to do in FA is to re-sign our own Fred Davis and Rob Jackson.

After that, I'd like to see the Skins try to address FS, the pass rush, 3rd Down RB, and KR/PR.

I think the following players could help us:

1. Jarius Byrd, FS - He would provide a big upgrade as our starting FS.
2. Osi Umeniyora, DE - We could use him as a pass rushing specialist.
3. Josh Cribbs, KR/WR/RB - Explosive player. Instant upgrade to KR/PR. Also could use him as a backup WR or on 3rd down out of the backfield.[/quote]

Cribbs is a bit intriguing. He can be an explosive player, but he'll be 30 once the season begins. Will he still have his explosiveness? Cribbs and Crawford would make a good KR/PR combination and he'd be good to have in the backfield on those weird pistol formations. At receiving, he'd be an upgrade to Banks, but I am wondering if we are crowding the WR position.

I would say no to Osi, although I am sure he'd play hard against the G-men. Byrd would be great, but he's going to be the #1 FA this offseason, if the Bills let him get away.

SkinzWin 01-10-2013 03:17 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Ruhskins;987435]Cribbs is a bit intriguing. He can be an explosive player, but he'll be 30 once the season begins. Will he still have his explosiveness? Cribbs and Crawford would make a good KR/PR combination and he'd be good to have in the backfield on those weird pistol formations. At receiving, he'd be an upgrade to Banks, but I am wondering if we are crowding the WR position.

I would say no to Osi, although I am sure he'd play hard against the G-men. Byrd would be great, but he's going to be the #1 FA this offseason, if the Bills let him get away.[/quote]

Isn't he the Brandon Banks of Running Backs?

los panda 01-10-2013 03:19 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=SkinzWin;987439]Isn't he the Brandon Banks of Running Backs?[/quote]he's not a rb

donofriose 01-10-2013 03:23 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=SkinzWin;987439]Isn't he the Brandon Banks of Running Backs?[/quote]

He is a lot better than Brandon Banks.

Ruhskins 01-10-2013 03:24 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=SkinzWin;987439]Isn't he the Brandon Banks of Running Backs?[/quote]

Cribbs is a receiver, but he's been used out of the backfield a lot in his career, similar to how Green Bay uses Randall Cobb.

CultBrennan59 01-10-2013 03:34 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
I don't want a 30 something year old Cribbs. I like Crawford as a returner. I like Tyrann Mathieu as a returner in the draft.

No to Osi. He's fallen off the map fast as a DE. Plus you all didn't want Babin now you want Osi?

Chico23231 01-10-2013 03:39 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
No Cribbs or Osi. They dont fit our recent model of free agent target leading to our recent run of success.

donofriose 01-10-2013 03:40 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;987445]I don't want a 30 something year old Cribbs. I like Crawford as a returner. I like Tyrann Mathieu as a returner in the draft.

No to Osi. He's fallen off the map fast as a DE. Plus you all didn't want Babin now you want Osi?[/quote]

Exactly. Osi would demand money probably a little less than what Babin got anyway. That entire dline for the giants played poorly this past season. Some good explosive players will be available when the Redskins pick. Crawford has done well returning kicks.

punch it in 01-10-2013 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=los panda;987440]he's not a rb[/QUOTE]

Know it all

Bubba305-ST21- 01-10-2013 04:06 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
Chris Rainey waived today. Shanby was said to love him at the senior bowl, scoop him!speedy back would compete with helu

Evilgrin 01-10-2013 04:15 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;987458]Chris Rainey waived today. Shanby was said to love him at the senior bowl, scoop him!speedy back would compete with helu[/quote]

Wow surprising,
[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8832829/chris-rainey-pittsburgh-steelers-waived-arrest-battery-florida]Chris Rainey of Pittsburgh Steelers waived after arrest for battery in Florida - ESPN[/url]

NYCskinfan82 01-10-2013 04:30 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;987458]Chris Rainey waived today. Shanby was said to love him at the senior bowl, scoop him!speedy back would compete with helu[/quote]

I would take a shot on him speed kills.

calia 01-10-2013 04:37 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
And multiple arrests kills your career. No thanks.

punch it in 01-10-2013 04:39 PM

No thanks

BigHairedAristocrat 01-10-2013 05:24 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=Evilgrin;987460]Wow surprising,
[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8832829/chris-rainey-pittsburgh-steelers-waived-arrest-battery-florida]Chris Rainey of Pittsburgh Steelers waived after arrest for battery in Florida - ESPN[/url][/quote]


Let me start out by saying that domestic violence is deplorable and thats what actually happened here. Chris Reiney deserves whatever punishment he gets. I'm guessing she probably took his cell phone so she could go through it because she had suspicions he was cheating or something. She was being "crazy" and he responded like a true scumbag.

But I started thinking about this from a "layman legal" perspective. She stole his cell phone. He used physical force in an effort to get reclaim his illegally stolen property [I]during the theft.[/I]

If a random stranger stole your cell phone, wouldnt you be allowed to use some degree of physical force to retrieve your personal property? So why should you not be able to use physical force if someone you know steals your personal property [I]during the theft. [/I] They werent married, so its not like it could be viewed as "shared property." Would it make a difference, from a legal perspective, whether you use force to PREVENT someone from taking something WHILE IN YOUR HOME vs. TAKING IT BACK WHILE LEAVING THE HOME. Would it make a difference if it was a brother or friend as opposed to a boyfriend/girlfriend?

Again, in no way am i trying to justify the actions of a repeat domestic abuser. As a practicical matter, the guys a scumbag and we all know it. But from a legal perspective, couldnt it be argued that he was within his rights to use force to reclaim the property as she was in the act of committing a crime?

KI Skins Fan 01-10-2013 05:25 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=punch it in;987431]I like Crawford and Paul as kr/pr. Osi sort of goes against the youth movement and wouldnt he come at a steep price? We definitely need help at pass rush, but we are getting Rak and Carriker back and the pass rush seemed to be improving. Better secondary would help the pass rush too. RT and secondary. MLB.
Also Helu can be our third down back.
Edit: Bernstine and BW will also be back. I think alot of our answers are already wearing the B&G.[/quote]

Helu can't get/stay on the field. He's still not well enough to run. I like Danny Woodhead, too. Woodhead is my gift to you - another FA player idea for you to poop on.

I'm identifying FS as a need. Meriweather is a SS and I think he just might make a strong comeback next season. Bernstine has proven nothing. We still need a top veteran FS, IMHO.

You are overrating our pass rush, even after we get Rak and Carriker back. If not Osi, we still need someone who can help us produce a better pass rush.

Bubba305-ST21- 01-10-2013 05:52 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
i would snatch him up for a cheap deal in less time than his 40. I mean what is the risk? if he screws up, bye bye. Its not like we are depending on him to start. He would be a great return man and special packages at rb/wr.

los panda 01-10-2013 06:07 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
hank fraley's lookin' good

NYCskinfan82 01-10-2013 06:29 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=calia;987468]And multiple arrests kills your career. No thanks.[/quote]

Sorry should of read the whole sentence, I'm not fond of battery. No thanks unless proven not guilty.

los panda 01-10-2013 06:57 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
does anyone know how/why someone like jason brown can fall off so fast? go from starting 14 games in 2011 to not playing in 2012 at age 29...

punch it in 01-10-2013 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;987476]Helu can't get/stay on the field. He's still not well enough to run. I like Danny Woodhead, too. Woodhead is my gift to you - another FA player idea for you to poop on.

I'm identifying FS as a need. Meriweather is a SS and I think he just might make a strong comeback next season. Bernstine has proven nothing. We still need a top veteran FS, IMHO.

You are overrating our pass rush, even after we get Rak and Carriker back. If not Osi, we still need someone who can help us produce a better pass rush.[/QUOTE]

I think alot of posters pooped on osi, and excuse me if my humble opinions come across as fecal matter on your computer screen. Lol.
Im not overrating our pass rush at all. I simply pointed out that it seemed to be getting better and upgrades in the secondary plus a couple of starters in the front seven coming back should help it. Notice i did not say "our pass rush will be a dominant force in the universe as it was this year. "
As for Bernstine - of course he hasnt proven anything - he hasnt played. That being said im not ready to count him out.
As for Helu, wasnt he fairly healthy the year before last. Im not denying he isnt the "work horse" back that Almo is, but i certainly think he could be a solid 3rd down back. Especially with his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.
We were the number one rushing team in the nfl, and secondary and RT are our two biggest needs. So if you would like to give me gifts than give me a cb, a RT and a FS. :)

CultBrennan59 01-10-2013 07:58 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=los panda;987494]does anyone know how/why someone like jason brown can fall off so fast? go from starting 14 games in 2011 to not playing in 2012 at age 29...[/quote]

knee problems. It may be cliche, but NFL really does also stand for Not For Long.

CultBrennan59 01-10-2013 08:33 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1478738-2013-nfl-free-agents-under-the-radar-players-to-watch/page/2]2013 NFL Free Agents: Under-the-Radar Players to Watch | Bleacher Report[/url]

SmootSmack 01-10-2013 08:37 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;987514][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1478738-2013-nfl-free-agents-under-the-radar-players-to-watch/page/2]2013 NFL Free Agents: Under-the-Radar Players to Watch | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

How is Jairus Byrd under the radar?

Chico23231 01-10-2013 08:59 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=SmootSmack;987516]How is Jairus Byrd under the radar?[/quote]

Its amazing isnt it? Click that link expecting to find reasonable price prizes of free agency and see Melton, Branch and Byrd...3 guys who arent hitting the market. Keeping flipping those slides Don Quixote...

CultBrennan59 01-10-2013 09:06 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=SmootSmack;987516]How is Jairus Byrd under the radar?[/quote]

He's not. Eldeman and Branch could be in that category, but Byrd is a big name.


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