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[quote=firstdown;964475]Makes perfect sense to me. When you shut down your office the first thing you do is shut off the cash before people decide to have the night out with other peoples money. Its very easy to max out a card and the other party having no chance to come back and require you to pay it back.[/quote]

I gotta agree with FD here to a certain extent. The only way I don't agree is if Romney asked these staffers to put on events or something campaign related that would cost money, and when it came time to pay the card was dead. The article didn't state that as the case. Seems like a generally smart move. If I quit a company and have a corporate card, I expect it to be dead on my last day.

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[quote=firstdown;964475]Makes perfect sense to me. When you shut down your office the first thing you do is shut off the cash before people decide to have the night out with other peoples money. Its very easy to max out a card and the other party having no chance to come back and require you to pay it back.[/quote]

I highly doubt it's procedure to cut those cards off immediately like that with bills still left to be paid. Also, I don't think that has been a huge problem with some staffer going out and blowing money on a CC that he would most definitely have to pay back anyways. They normally have other business to conclude afterwards that need funding. Cutting them off the night off is stupid. No two ways about it.



[quote=Daseal;964497]I gotta agree with FD here to a certain extent. The only way I don't agree is if Romney asked these staffers to put on events or something campaign related that would cost money, and when it came time to pay the card was dead. The article didn't state that as the case. Seems like a generally smart move. If I quit a company and have a corporate card, I expect it to be dead on my last day.[/quote]

Well, your last day wouldn't be your last day if there were still loose ends to tie up, bills still left to be paid. I mean, whos going to clean up? They just leaving all the stuff there?

No.

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[quote=NC_Skins;964507]I highly doubt it's procedure to cut those cards off immediately like that with bills still left to be paid. Also, I don't think that has been a huge problem with some staffer going out and blowing money on a CC that he would most [B]definitely have to pay back anyways[/B]. They normally have other business to conclude afterwards that need funding. Cutting them off the night off is stupid. No two ways about it.





Well, your last day wouldn't be your last day if there were still loose ends to tie up, bills still left to be paid. I mean, whos going to clean up? They just leaving all the stuff there?

No.[/quote]

Getting a cab ride home is not a loose end and it actually sounds like he was done and going home. Ask my buddy how it feels to toss an employee the keys to his vet to run an erran and the person never came back. Couldn't press charges because he gave her the keys to use his car.

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^^^^ its called unauthorized use of a vehicle. permission to use it is one thing, keeping it is another

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[quote=dmek25;964588]^^^^ its called unauthorized use of a vehicle. permission to use it is one thing, keeping it is another[/quote]

That's not what the police told my buddy. They said when he tossed her the keys if he didn't tell her to go straight to the bank and back they could not arrest her. They did arrest her for stealing the money she took but not his car/vet and she was caught in FL.

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Anyone notice that just about the minute the election was over bombs started flying at israel?

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The election was over in 1948?

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/mitt-romney-back-pumping-own-gas-121835172.html]Mitt Romney Is Back to Pumping His Own Gas - Yahoo! News[/url]

Mitt looking rough....lol

[IMG]http://qoou.net/images/2012/11/20/0Elx.jpg[/IMG]


This was a interesting read.

[url=http://www.gq.com/news-politics/blogs/death-race/2012/11/how-the-secret-service-said-goodbye-to-mitt-romney.html]How the Secret Service Said Goodbye to Mitt Romney: Death Race 2012: GQ on Politics: GQ[/url]




[quote=Alvin Walton;965826]The election was over in 1948?[/quote]

:laughing2






Also, one Tea Party idiot out the door.

[url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84068.html?hp=bn]Allen West concedes to Patrick Murphy - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com[/url]

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[quote=Daseal;964497]I gotta agree with FD here to a certain extent. The only way I don't agree is if Romney asked these staffers to put on events or something campaign related that would cost money, and when it came time to pay the card was dead. The article didn't state that as the case. Seems like a generally smart move. If I quit a company and have a corporate card, I expect it to be dead on my last day.[/quote]

When I was an OFA staffer in '08 the campaign gave us new laptops, we kept our cell phones/Blackberry, and they paid us for the remainder of the month even though the election had ended.

My point isn't to compare how generous OFA was, but how loyalty and showing people you care matters when you want to enlist them four years later. Those people Romney burned will never work for his ass again. It was a dick move to shut down the cards with no advance notice, especially since those staffers were probably working for low wages to begin with.

But whatevs..the election is over. Couldn't care less about Romney.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/politics/tea-party-grief/index.html?hpt=hp_t2]Archconservatives: anger, denial but no acceptance of Obama's victory - CNN.com[/url]

Like I told my dad, if the republican party doesnt cut ties with nut cases like this you will NEVER win another Presidential election. This Phillips guy is a nut, cant believe the GOP has accepted him a leader in their party.

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[quote=NC_Skins;965862]
Also, one Tea Party idiot out the door.

[url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84068.html?hp=bn]Allen West concedes to Patrick Murphy - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com[/url][/quote]

So you live in the south in a former slave state, you didnt vote for Obama and youre calling the first true Republican member of the Congressional Black Caucus, who was beaten by a white man in a tight congressional race, an idiot. Additionally from your posts you come off as angry, will you also confirm that youre also old, white and male?

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The 47%

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_dIBL4tYQPI]Black Friday Store Stampede! [Compilation] - YouTube[/url]

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/23/politics/fiscal-cliff/index.html?hpt=hp_t1]Some Republicans move away from no-tax pledge - CNN.com[/url]

GOP eating themselves. Glad they are having these conversations and are starting to realize the direction of the people.

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Welp, at least the most negative presidential campaign ever is over... though not from looking at this board. Ugh. Democrats still attacking Republicans like the race is still on.

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[quote=HailGreen28;967464]Welp, at least the most negative presidential campaign ever is over... though not from looking at this board. Ugh. Democrats still attacking Republicans like the race is still on.[/quote]


You really beleive it would be different had Romney won?

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[quote=HailGreen28;967464]Welp, at least the most negative presidential campaign ever is over... though not from looking at this board. Ugh. Democrats still attacking Republicans like the race is still on.[/quote]

Its been pretty funny watching how they have acted in this win.

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[quote=firstdown;967577]Its been pretty funny watching how they have acted in this win.[/quote]
.....wow.

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[quote=firstdown;967577]Its been pretty funny watching how they have acted in this win.[/quote]


Even better, how republicans handle the loss.



[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/21/dan-senor-mitt-romney-republicans_n_2170293.html?ir=Politics"]Dan Senor, Mitt Romney Adviser, Blasts Republicans For Deserting Candidate After Loss[/URL]

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[quote=mlmpetert;966451]So you live in the south in a former slave state, you didnt vote for Obama and youre calling the first true Republican member of the Congressional Black Caucus, who was beaten by a white man in a tight congressional race, an idiot. Additionally from your posts you come off as angry, will you also confirm that youre also old, white and male?[/quote]

This post is so full of fail that it isn't even funny. Keep trying though, but thanks for playing. Collect your consolation prize at the door.

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[quote=Giantone;967560]You really beleive it would be different had Romney won?[/quote]

I don't think the Rep. guys here would have acted like a bunch of kids who just won their first thing ever. I've had a pretty good laugh at how some here have the childish post after post they just keep on going and going and going.

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Wondering when we'll close it, because it's seeming like just a lot of personal attacks and not a lot of substance.

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[quote=12thMan;965877]When I was an OFA staffer in '08 the campaign gave us new laptops, we kept our cell phones/Blackberry, and they paid us for the remainder of the month even though the election had ended.

My point isn't to compare how generous OFA was, but how loyalty and showing people you care matters when you want to enlist them four years later. Those people Romney burned will never work for his ass again. It was a dick move to shut down the cards with no advance notice, especially since those staffers were probably working for low wages to begin with.

But whatevs..the election is over. Couldn't care less about Romney.[/quote]

So he was buying votes in 2004 too.

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[quote=firstdown;967801]So he was buying votes in 2004 too.[/quote]

He didn't lose a 1.5 billion election... hopefully he will come through for us and raise your taxes and redistribute the money to the 47%.

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[quote=saden1;967823]He didn't lose a 1.5 billion election... hopefully he will come through for us and raise your taxes and redistribute the money to the 47%.[/quote]

I'm self employeed and he will hit you guys before we get hit. I'll just take less income and start saving more money through a SEP or something like that.

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[quote=firstdown;967940]I'm self employeed and he will hit you guys before we get hit. I'll just take less income and start saving more money through a SEP or something like that.[/quote]

Interesting...so you're one of the tax cheats you always seem to be complain about and I am having to carry?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;967792]Wondering when we'll close it, because it's seeming like just a lot of personal attacks and not a lot of substance.[/quote]


Agree.

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[quote=firstdown;967801]So he was buying votes in 2004 too.[/quote]



See post #301

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[quote=saden1;968033]Interesting...so you're one of the tax cheats you always seem to be complain about and I am having to carry?[/quote]

OK, Saden I'll keep it simple for you. A SEP is just an IRA (individual retirment plan) that a business can contribute into. You should look into an IRA for yourself they have two different plans Roth & Traditional.

For more on IRA's.

[url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+an+IRA+plan]Let me google that for you[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;968088]OK, Saden I'll keep it simple for you. A SEP is just an IRA (individual retirment plan) that a business can contribute into. You should look into an IRA for yourself they have two different plans Roth & Traditional.

For more on IRA's.

[url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+an+IRA+plan]Let me google that for you[/url][/quote]

I'm hip to the game and the scary thing is I understand how the marginal tax rate works and the fact that the piper eventually gets paid when you hit 70.5 or croak.

You can only hide for so long you tax sheltering, estate scheming, inheritance tax eliminator, you.

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[quote=saden1;968123]I'm hip to the game and the scary thing is I understand how the marginal tax rate works and the fact that the piper eventually gets paid when you hit 70.5 or croak.

You can only hide for so long you tax sheltering, estate scheming, inheritance tax eliminator, you.[/quote]

So I guess your saying you don't write off anything on your taxes and I'm guessing your going to claim that $$ you won?[IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon10.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=firstdown;967789]I don't think the Rep. guys here would have acted like a bunch of kids who just won their first thing ever. I've had a pretty good laugh at how some here have the childish post after post they just keep on going and going and going.[/quote]That, and I'm amazed at the total lack of substance from the left in this thread and and this election. Seems like it all was about who can be the most negative while appearing confident laughing out loud about it.

At times, we'd talk about whether cost would go up under Obamacare, and federal debt and spending, and constitutional rights. But I guess facts were too inconvenient this time around. All that got swept aside for commercials accusing Romney of shipping jobs overseas (factcheckers debunked this early on but that didn't stop the commercials), a college student complaining her birth control was too expensive for her to pay alone, legalizing pot, going forward on a bad economy for four years with more of the same (It's still going to improve, just not as much as it could have.), and ridiculous accusations like "Romney supports child labor!".

Romney couldn't even talk about going out of his way to hire women, without liberals screaming "Are you offended he said "binders full of women""" All style, no substance this time around. This thread and election have been eyeopening and headshaking.

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I say lock it and lets move on.

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[quote=firstdown;967789]I don't think the Rep. guys here would have acted like a bunch of kids who just won their first thing ever. I've had a pretty good laugh at how some here have the childish post after post they just keep on going and going and going.[/quote]


Nobody has "won" until big money lobbying gets out of our politics. It's really that simple. Doesn't matter if it were Dems or Repubs. I personally drill the GOP harder because they simply show their colors more often and generally in a much /facepalm type measure. Until those guys can learn to get their act together and stop representing a small fraction of the nation, they'll continue to lose elections.


.....also, it's things like this that infuriate me as well. We talked about it before, and what was true then is still true now.

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ex-republicans-claim-fla-gop-suppressed-democratic-vote-194121956--election.html]Ex-Republicans claim Fla. GOP suppressed Democratic vote | The Ticket - Yahoo! News[/url]



...and not to leave any of you GOPers out.

[url=http://boldprogressives.org/retiring-blue-dog-democrat-heath-shuler-breaks-his-pledge-to-not-become-a-lobbyist/]Retiring Blue Dog Democrat Heath Shuler Breaks His Pledge To Not Become A Lobbyist | Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC)[/url]

^^like I said, doesn't matter.

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[quote=NC_Skins;968303]Nobody has "won" until big money lobbying gets out of our politics. It's really that simple. Doesn't matter if it were Dems or Repubs. I personally drill the GOP harder because they simply show their colors more often and generally in a much /facepalm type measure. Until those guys can learn to get their act together and stop representing a small fraction of the nation, they'll continue to lose elections.


.....also, it's things like this that infuriate me as well. We talked about it before, and what was true then is still true now.

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ex-republicans-claim-fla-gop-suppressed-democratic-vote-194121956--election.html"]Ex-Republicans claim Fla. GOP suppressed Democratic vote | The Ticket - Yahoo! News[/URL]



...and not to leave any of you GOPers out.

[URL="http://boldprogressives.org/retiring-blue-dog-democrat-heath-shuler-breaks-his-pledge-to-not-become-a-lobbyist/"]Retiring Blue Dog Democrat Heath Shuler Breaks His Pledge To Not Become A Lobbyist | Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC)[/URL]

^^like I said, doesn't matter.[/quote]

NC you us really bad sources the guy making the claim is under indictment for funneling campaign funds from the rep party.

Greer, who is under indictment and accused of funneling campaign funds from the Republican Party, has been claiming that state Republicans supported a law (HB 1355)—which, in part, curtailed early voting—simply as a means to stymie the Democratic vote.

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[quote=firstdown;968368]NC you us really bad sources the guy making the claim is under indictment for funneling campaign funds from the rep party.

Greer, who is under indictment and accused of funneling campaign funds from the Republican Party, has been claiming that state Republicans supported a law (HB 1355)—which, in part, curtailed early voting—simply as a means to stymie the Democratic vote.[/quote]


Him being under indictment has nothing to do with his statement that the GOP indeed wanted to suppress minority votes.


This isn't a situation where "if you disagree with me, then you are a idiot", but if you can't see that the GOP wasn't trying to suppress minority votes....well...continue living in your ignorant world. You know they were, I know they were, minorities know they were.


[IMG]http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/November-20-2011-21-59-01-59672701.jpeg[/IMG]

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[quote=NC_Skins;968394]Him being under indictment has nothing to do with his statement that the GOP indeed wanted to suppress minority votes.


This isn't a situation where "if you disagree with me, then you are a idiot", but if you can't see that the GOP wasn't trying to suppress minority votes....well...continue living in your ignorant world. You know they were, I know they were, minorities know they were.


[IMG]http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/November-20-2011-21-59-01-59672701.jpeg[/IMG][/quote]

That's only if you think your voting block is too dumb to figure out how to vote. I never did but the many on the left must have thought they were to dumb to figure out how to vote with an ID. Of the states that did pass voter laws it didn't seem to stop anyone from voting so that argument does not hold any water. Maybe soon that same block of voters will realize how their party views them as too dumb to know how to vote.

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[quote=firstdown;968495]That's only if you think your voting block is too dumb to figure out how to vote. I never did but the many on the left must have thought they were to dumb to figure out how to vote with an ID. Of the states that did pass voter laws it didn't seem to stop anyone from voting so that argument does not hold any water. Maybe soon that same block of voters will realize how their party views them as too dumb to know how to vote.[/quote]

It puts obstacles in place that make people not want to vote.


Really guy? Why am I having to explain this? It's clear as the sky. Are you that wrapped up in your party's idiocy that you refuse to acknowledge this? As long as people like you exist, nothing will change.

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[quote=NC_Skins;968502]It puts obstacles in place that make people not want to vote.


Really guy? Why am I having to explain this? It's clear as the sky. Are you that wrapped up in your party's idiocy that you refuse to acknowledge this? As long as people like you exist, nothing will change.[/quote]

So your saying the Dem voters are too lazy to get an ID? Its you saying people are too stupid and lazy to get a voter ID not me. Thats what I don't get and you where proven wrong in this past election. The only change you seem to want is to make every one too F*&King lazy to get off their ass and do something on their own. I actuall think people in whole are not that lazy and can do stuff without people like you telling them they can't and if they are that lazy then they probably should not be voting.

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FD, with all the shit talking you have been doing over the last 4 years you deserve nothing short of spiking the ball INTO your face followed by the Carlton dance.


Please proceed your highness....and be sure to bring your ugg boots.