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Vick is good as gone, in my opinion.

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Babin needs to be signed by us. Just what we need is a pass rusher.

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Where would Babin play? He isn't a proto 3-4 DE and we're not signing to him move to OLB for 5 games when he doesn't play the position. Babin makes zero sense for us.

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[quote=FRPLG;968260]Where would Babin play? He isn't a proto 3-4 DE and we're not signing to him move to OLB for 5 games when he doesn't play the position. Babin makes zero sense for us.[/quote]

Exactly .

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i haven't seen him do anything besides rush the passer, but i'd bring him in for a look to see what he can do at olb.

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[quote=FRPLG;968260]Where would Babin play? He isn't a proto 3-4 DE and we're not signing to him move to OLB for 5 games when he doesn't play the position. Babin makes zero sense for us.[/quote]

Babin fits the prototypical 3-4 OLB size. He is a pass rusher. Put him in on passing downs, hand in the dirt or standing up.

Babin is a 4-3 rush end, no fit for him here.

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You don't just bring in a guy to play a position he has never played before. If you bring in a hybrid 4-3DE/3-4OLB you bring him in at camp so he can learn to play the position. Come on people.

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Somewhat related, if Nnamdi is released, and though he sucks, I'd definitely give him a look here.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968256]Babin needs to be signed by us. Just what we need is a pass rusher.[/quote]

Not so fast.

[url=http://philly.sbnation.com/2012/11/27/3698538/eagles-release-former-pro-bowl-de-jason-babin]Eagles release former Pro Bowl DE Jason Babin - SB Nation Philly[/url]


After reading this, I want no part of this guy on our team.

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[quote=FRPLG;968271]You don't just bring in a guy to play a position he has never played before. If you bring in a hybrid 4-3DE/3-4OLB you bring him in at camp so he can learn to play the position. Come on people.[/quote]

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[quote=FRPLG;968271]You don't just bring in a guy to play a position he has never played before. If you bring in a hybrid 4-3DE/3-4OLB you bring him in at camp so he can learn to play the position. Come on people.[/quote]

ESPN said he has and can play either. I don't know if he did the 3-4 in college or what. Also a pass rusher is a pass rusher. Kerrigan will put his hand in the dirt at times on 3rd down. Just put Babin out there on passing downs

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968282]ESPN said he has and can play either. I don't know if he did the 3-4 in college or what. Also a pass rusher is a pass rusher. Kerrigan will put his hand in the dirt at times on 3rd down. Just put Babin out there on passing downs[/quote]

I agree with this especially with RG3 looking like he can give us leads and force offenses to be 1 dimensional against us.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968282]ESPN said he has and can play either. I don't know if he did the 3-4 in college or what. Also a pass rusher is a pass rusher. Kerrigan will put his hand in the dirt at times on 3rd down. Just put Babin out there on passing downs[/quote]

He's been a 4-3 end his entire career in the NFL.

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**** Babin and his over paid worthless ass. f*ck'm all

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[quote=SmootSmack;967835]They've worked out our old friend Ryan Torain a couple of times. Might be signing him[/quote]

Looks like this may have happened today

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Bears have released Amobi Okoye

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[quote=Chico23231;968292]**** Babin and his over paid worthless ass. f*ck'm all[/quote]

Babin=trailer trash

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[quote=12thMan;968273]Somewhat related, if Nnamdi is released, and though he sucks, I'd definitely give him a look here.[/quote]

He looks like he's fallen off a cliff. WTF happened to him? Glad we didn't chase him when he was available.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968282]ESPN said he has and can play either. I don't know if he did the 3-4 in college or what. Also a pass rusher is a pass rusher. Kerrigan will put his hand in the dirt at times on 3rd down. Just put Babin out there on passing downs[/quote]

This is about as good of an idea as taking Jason Taylor and sticking him as an OLB.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;968300]This is about as good of an idea as taking Jason Taylor and sticking him as an OLB.[/quote]

Lol! Exactly! And his attitude sucks and he hasn't played worth a s**t this year. Yeah sign him up. Sounds like a great idea.

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[quote=Mattyk;968298]He looks like he's fallen off a cliff. WTF happened to him? Glad we didn't chase him when he was available.[/quote]


He's being asked to do things he didn't do in Oakland. Also being targeted much more often.


I know it's BR, but it's actually a good article with film breakdown.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1363263-philadelphia-eagles-whats-wrong-with-nnamdi-asomugha]Philadelphia Eagles: What's Wrong with Nnamdi Asomugha? | Bleacher Report[/url]




Interesting notes of cuts that could happen.

[url=http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-15/sports/35113057_1_cullen-jenkins-fletcher-cox-howie-roseman]Eagles likely to clean house at season's end - Philly.com[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;968300]This is about as good of an idea as taking Jason Taylor and sticking him as an OLB.[/quote]

Jason Taylor did good for the dolphins and jets as a OLB in the 3-4.....just saying

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968382]Jason Taylor did good for the dolphins and jets as a OLB in the 3-4.....just saying[/quote]

Huh? If you call 36 tackles and 5 sacks with the Jets good? Then you and me differ greatly in our perceptions of good.

Pretty sure you can get that kind of performance out of any average-above average linebacker in the league.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;968395]Huh? If you call 36 tackles and 5 sacks with the Jets good? Then you and me differ greatly in our perceptions of good.

Pretty sure you can get that kind of performance out of any average-above average linebacker in the league.[/quote]



In the world of Redskins fans, that's good. You can't blame them, we're used to shitty play from players...lol Reality though, is more in line with what you are saying.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;968395]Huh? If you call 36 tackles and 5 sacks with the Jets good? Then you and me differ greatly in our perceptions of good.

Pretty sure you can get that kind of performance out of any average-above average linebacker in the league.[/quote]

for 8million a year, that sounds about right for this town...

I would take Nnamdi and put him at FS in a heartbeat.

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If the Eagles cut Nnamdi I would sign him up right away. Last year he was hurt, this year the Eagles are a mess and he's just caught in a funk.

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I'd really think twice about signing Asomugha. Raiders weren't contenders with him and the eagles got worse as a team when he signed. And he's 31 years old.

For the past few years, ever since haynesworth- the top defensive free agent that has broke the bank- has not fared too well. Asomugha included. Seems like they get fed and then they are fat and happy. They aren't hungry anymore. Haynesworth seemed to prove this both figuratively and literally.

I would make it a rule to not break the bank with the top defensive free agent that's available especially if they're past 28 years old. I'm glad that teams have taken the offseason championship from the redskins like the eagles and the bills.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;968395]Huh? If you call 36 tackles and 5 sacks with the Jets good? Then you and me differ greatly in our perceptions of good.

Pretty sure you can get that kind of performance out of any average-above average linebacker in the league.[/quote]

Hey for a 36+ year old who only played on passing downs...yes thats good. And good means not very good, not great, a tad above average. He was making plays other than sacks.

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In the world of Redskins fans, that's good. You can't blame them, we're used to shitty play from players...lol Reality though, is more in line with what you are saying. [/quote]

...you are a redskin fan...and I recall you being very actively posting in the Free agency related threads...so be careful with what your saying


as for Ruhskins and SFREDKINS posts...wow
I get bashed for saying we should get another pass rusher opposite kerrigan and its he's an overpriced bad FA (who is third in the NFL in the past 3 years in sacks, and gets fumbles and recoveries). But you two are in the Nnamdi boat??? Really? The guy hasn't done squat and look how much he was asking to be paid. Man to man--he sucks. Zone--he sucks. Press zone--he sucks. I know we need CBs, but damn you all don't realize how bad he's been. He's the Haynesworth of CBs

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968421]...you are a redskin fan...and I recall you being very actively posting in the Free agency related threads...so be careful with what your saying[/quote]

You haven't seen me wanting to sign some other team's trash or rejects. That much is certain. If we bring in other team's rejects, it should be before training camp so they can EARN their starting spot, not given to them due to a huge contract and recognized name. If they want to bring in Babin in the off-season before camp and not guarantee him a spot, I'm fine with that. (even though I don't think he'll make the roster)

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;968416]If the Eagles cut Nnamdi I would sign him up right away. Last year he was hurt, this year the Eagles are a mess and he's just caught in a funk.[/quote]

I would sign him for reasonable numbers but, as others have pointed out, he is past his prime. I think, at this point, he is a solid third corner and an upgrade over C. Griffin. Maybe he can be a solid CB2 not sure if he is a CB1 anymore.

An article printed about, linked somewhere in the forum (probably this thread), indicated he was an excellent technician rather than a speed guy but has lost a step. As a result, he can't make up for his missteps anymore.

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Nnamdi looks like he's running in slow motion out there. Sometimes players drop off quick, others it's a slower decline. Looks like he's run straight off the cliff.

[QUOTE=FRPLG;968260]Where would Babin play? He isn't a proto 3-4 DE and we're not signing to him move to OLB for 5 games when he doesn't play the position. Babin makes zero sense for us.[/QUOTE]

He would play only when we rush four - passing situations - we are bottom of the league in sacks and he is exactly what we need. Plus he wont affect the cap for next year.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968421]Hey for a 36+ year old who only played on passing downs...yes thats good. And good means not very good, not great, a tad above average. He was making plays other than sacks.



...you are a redskin fan...and I recall you being very actively posting in the Free agency related threads...so be careful with what your saying


as for Ruhskins and SFREDKINS posts...wow
I get bashed for saying we should get another pass rusher opposite kerrigan and its he's an overpriced bad FA (who is third in the NFL in the past 3 years in sacks, and gets fumbles and recoveries). But you two are in the Nnamdi boat??? Really? The guy hasn't done squat and look how much he was asking to be paid. Man to man--he sucks. Zone--he sucks. Press zone--he sucks. I know we need CBs, but damn you all don't realize how bad he's been. He's the Haynesworth of CBs[/quote]

Big difference between Nnamdi amd Babin, Nnamdi has been one of the best Cover CB's in the league, Babin had one good year. Look at the pro-bowl #'s and all-pro awards.

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[quote=punch it in;968493]He would play only when we rush four - passing situations - we are bottom of the league in sacks and he is exactly what we need. Plus he wont affect the cap for next year.[/quote]

Good idea.

Let's run a 3-4 defense and put a guy in who only does one thing. One of the main pros of the 3-4 is that the OLBs can rush and drop so it makes protections schemes harder to coordinate. Putting in a "rush specialist" essentially mitigates that advantage.

Football is not Legos people.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968421]as for Ruhskins and SFREDKINS posts...wow
I get bashed for saying we should get another pass rusher opposite kerrigan and its he's an overpriced bad FA (who is third in the NFL in the past 3 years in sacks, and gets fumbles and recoveries). But you two are in the Nnamdi boat??? Really? The guy hasn't done squat and look how much he was asking to be paid. Man to man--he sucks. Zone--he sucks. Press zone--he sucks. I know we need CBs, but damn you all don't realize how bad he's been. He's the Haynesworth of CBs[/quote]

First of all, I said we should pick him up to be a FS. There are a number of cases out there where top CBs that are past their prime have fared very well as safeties (see Charles Woodson with Green Bay).

Second, Nnamdi was basically the best CB in football before coming to the Eagles. Haynesworth was a one hit wonder and obviously a big pr*ck.

Third, no team is going to sign Nnamdi to a big contract. And I didn't suggest this at all.

Fourth, there is a big difference between having a veteran DB adjust to being a FS over an offseason, and bringing a pass rusher who has played as a 4-3 DE his whole NFL career and expect him to adjust to the 3-4 scheme in a matter of days.

[QUOTE=FRPLG;968594]Good idea.

Let's run a 3-4 defense and put a guy in who only does one thing. One of the main pros of the 3-4 is that the OLBs can rush and drop so it makes protections schemes harder to coordinate. Putting in a "rush specialist" essentially mitigates that advantage.

Football is not Legos people.[/QUOTE]

Your missing my point. We need an edge rusher on passing downs rite now to make up for Orakpo. We sign him and let him do that than release him next year when Orakpo comes back. It isnt legos but it isnt as black and white as you make it out to be either with the 4:3 3:4. We do have packages now with four down lineman. Babin is certainly an upgrade opposite Kerrigan rite now and it would give Haz alot of flexibility in those situations.

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[quote=punch it in;968602]Your missing my point. We need an edge rusher on passing downs rite now to make up for Orakpo. We sign him and let him do that than release him next year when Orakpo comes back. It isnt legos but it isnt as black and white as you make it out to be either with the 4:3 3:4. We do have packages now with four down lineman. Babin is certainly an upgrade opposite Kerrigan rite now and it would give Haz alot of flexibility in those situations.[/quote]

Babin would be an upgrade if we were playing the 4-3. And I am sure he'd prefer playing in a system that he has played his whole NFL career than trying to adjust to a new scheme. Schemes do matter, just ask Andre Carter.

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i understand he's not a solution. i'm not saying whether or not i want him here.

i'm just saying, he'd be helpful on 3rd downs rushing the passer opposite of kerrigan, that's all. just a stopgap guy for these final weeks. in passing situations only.