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If Brady, and Manning and Brees and Griffin and Rogers are all out from low pocket hits then a lot less fans will be watching and the NFL will become boring without its stars.
You have to keep the starting QBs on the field or the NFL will suck.
These guys MUST be protected, its a necessary evil.

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[url=http://youtu.be/ppshUEANHCk]adidas Training & RGIII | "Blow Up" -- All In For Week 1 - YouTube[/url]

tHIS DIDN'T TAKE LONG

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[quote=skinsfaninok;994674][url=http://youtu.be/ppshUEANHCk]adidas Training & RGIII | "Blow Up" -- All In For Week 1 - YouTube[/url]

tHIS DIDN'T TAKE LONG[/quote]


Incredibly stupid if you ask me. If he's truly ready, fine. However, I have a feeling we'll be seeing him skip a few processes and going directly to GO.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994679]Incredibly stupid if you ask me. If he's truly ready, fine. However, I have a feeling we'll be seeing him skip a few processes and going directly to GO.[/quote]

I tried to get in before this, because I knew a response like this was coming:

[quote]Feel like I need to say this..Although my goal is to start Week 1, that doesn't mean I will compromise my career to do so.[/quote]
[URL="https://twitter.com/RGIII/status/303906844533993472"]Source[/URL]

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[quote=Mattyk;994668]Why are you ok with below the waist hits on QBs or blowing up WRs over the middle, but against horse collar tackles?[/quote]

Because those hits had no intent. It's freakin' football, guys are going to blow out their knees. So whenever a star gets hurt there has to be a new damn rule?? There's TOO MANY damn rules! If you look at the hit on Brady the guy was already on the ground. What's he suppose to do? Get up and then hit Brady between the numbers???? That's ridiculous!

I'll say this one more time. Blowing up wr's coming over the middle is part of the culture of football. That's why we all LOVED Sean Taylor. It's the intimidation factor. Now... you have to let the guy CATCH THE BALL, let him make a "football move" and then hit him. Now if you agree with that rule then so be it. Maybe you'd prefer to watch flag football. But to me, that IS NOT football. Week after week we hear former players laugh at the rules today. The rules are too one sided and to me that's BS.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994679]Incredibly stupid if you ask me. If he's truly ready, fine. However, I have a feeling we'll be seeing him skip a few processes and going directly to GO.[/quote]

Whats stupid about it?
Its a commercial.
And hes sitting down....
:pffff:

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Check out Jerry Jones' [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/behold-cowboys-seven-figure-luxury-bus-elegant-lady-174053253--nfl.html;_ylt=Asa.nITr8wB0xEUoYPTAq7RYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTE4NWRia245BG1pdANCbG9ncyBJbmRleARwb3MDMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFCbG9nSW5kZXg-;_ylg=X3oDMTFpMm9iMzh1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANibG9nBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3"]latest high-priced acquisition[/URL] that will surely restore the Cowboys to their GLOREE DAYZ!

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/19/garcon-wont-need-surgery-after-taking-time-to-rest-foot/]Garcon won’t need surgery after taking time to rest foot | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=mooby;994692]Check out Jerry Jones' [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/behold-cowboys-seven-figure-luxury-bus-elegant-lady-174053253--nfl.html;_ylt=Asa.nITr8wB0xEUoYPTAq7RYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTE4NWRia245BG1pdANCbG9ncyBJbmRleARwb3MDMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFCbG9nSW5kZXg-;_ylg=X3oDMTFpMm9iMzh1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANibG9nBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3"]latest high-priced acquisition[/URL] that will surely restore the Cowboys to their GLOREE DAYZ![/quote]

That story makes me think of this story for some reason. Maybe because its Jerry Jones being made a fool around the combine time.

[url=http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20100301-Sean-Payton-drinks-Jerry-Jones-3776.ece]Sean Payton drinks Jerry Jones' wine, leaves note | Dallas Cowboys News - Sports News for Dallas, Texas - SportsDayDFW[/url]

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y03-lYvJjE]Alfred Morris Highlights 2012 Full Rookie Season HD - YouTube[/url]


Here ya go. Re-live Morris's rookie year. This kid is a beast. Nuf said.

Gave me chills, and I can't wait till September 8th.

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[quote=skinsfan69;994688]Because those hits had no intent. It's freakin' football, guys are going to blow out their knees. So whenever a star gets hurt there has to be a new damn rule?? There's TOO MANY damn rules! If you look at the hit on Brady the guy was already on the ground. What's he suppose to do? Get up and then hit Brady between the numbers???? That's ridiculous!

I'll say this one more time. Blowing up wr's coming over the middle is part of the culture of football. That's why we all LOVED Sean Taylor. It's the intimidation factor. Now... you have to let the guy CATCH THE BALL, let him make a "football move" and then hit him. Now if you agree with that rule then so be it. Maybe you'd prefer to watch flag football. But to me, that IS NOT football. Week after week we hear former players laugh at the rules today. The rules are too one sided and to me that's BS.[/quote]

So why do you keep watching?

Those former players that are laughing at the rules as you say are also the ones trying to sue the league now because they didn't protect them enough.

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griffin's new addias commercial. i posted it in the super happy fun thread, but wanted to post it here too, just couldnt help myself, i love this guy...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppshUEANHCk]adidas Training & RGIII | "Blow Up" -- All In For Week 1 - YouTube[/ame]

“Feel like I need to say this… Although my goal is to start Week 1, that doesn’t mean I will compromise my career to do so,” the first tweet read.

Griffin followed up with, “Starting Week 1 will be the result of healing, hard work, dedication & God’s anointing. No rush, just determination.”

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/19/rg3-says-he-wont-compromise-his-career-to-play-in-season-opener/]RG3 says he won’t compromise his career to play in season opener | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;994666]The hit on Carson Palmer and Brady should never be illegal hits. The NFL goes out of the way to protect it's stars, we know that. To me that compromises the integrity of football.[/quote]

If fans still wanted 6-3 games that involved as many ambulances as footballs. If the consensus as to what was called a "great game" was 10 passes a game with 6 of those having the QB get clubbed across his head from behind sending his helmet spinning on the ground and his brain spinning in his skull. Something tells me the NFL, even with the safety of the players talk, would try to emulate that style of play.

Since the money for the NFL today is in 35-31 shootouts with QB X throwing for 450 yards and 5 TD's and QB Y throwing for 350 yards and 3 TD's, player safety trumps all.

Its gotta be about safety and not money... Right? 18 games per season doesnt mean more money but does mean more safety...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;994710][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/19/rg3-says-he-wont-compromise-his-career-to-play-in-season-opener/]RG3 says he won’t compromise his career to play in season opener | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]


Does he mean like in the Seattle game? Ok...

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Can't wait to see RG3 back in action full speed.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994719]Does he mean like in the Seattle game? Ok...[/quote]

Oh for fox sakes can you just stop bitchin???
Judas Maude, if you dont like our quarterback I'm sure Giantones message board would take you as a member.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;994746]Oh for fox sakes can you just stop bitchin???
Judas Maude, if you dont like our quarterback I'm sure Giantones message board would take you as a member.[/quote]



We love and accept all...peoples!

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[quote=Skinzman;994711]If fans still wanted 6-3 games that involved as many ambulances as footballs. If the consensus as to what was called a "great game" was 10 passes a game with 6 of those having the QB get clubbed across his head from behind sending his helmet spinning on the ground and his brain spinning in his skull. Something tells me the NFL, even with the safety of the players talk, would try to emulate that style of play.

Since the money for the NFL today is in 35-31 shootouts with QB X throwing for 450 yards and 5 TD's and QB Y throwing for 350 yards and 3 TD's, player safety trumps all.

Its gotta be about safety and not money... Right? 18 games per season doesnt mean more money but does mean more safety...[/quote]

No one wants to see a 6-3 game. That's not what I'm saying. I just don't like that the rules weigh so heavily towards one side of the ball.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994719]Does he mean like in the Seattle game? Ok...[/quote]

Kind of apples and oranges here.

In the Seattle game he probably knew he was going to need surgery after the season. He gutted it out when he probably shouldn't have, lesson learned.

Recovering from a 2nd knee reconstruction with an entire season in front of him is a different story, I think he's going to approach it a bit more wisely.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994719]Does he mean like in the Seattle game? Ok...[/quote]

Have to learn your limitations somehow. Give the guy a break. This was his first season in the NFL. I believe he now understands what he can and can not do with regards to sacrificing his body. His knee is a result of what he can learn from. I think he will be much smarter with a season under his belt this year.

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[quote=Mattyk;994703]So why do you keep watching?

Those former players that are laughing at the rules as you say are also the ones trying to sue the league now because they didn't protect them enough.[/quote]

Guys I've heard critique the new rules....Deion Sanders, Warren Sapp, Rod Woodson, Tom Jackson, Lavar Arrington, Brian Mitchell, Darren Sharper and a wr from GB James Jones...to name a few. I could go on and on. None have lawsuits against the NFL.

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RG3 will be fine. I just sucks that this entire off season will be devoted to rehab. I wonder if he will get any reps in pre season.

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[quote=skinsfan69;994752]No one wants to see a 6-3 game. That's not what I'm saying. I just don't like that the rules weigh so heavily towards one side of the ball.[/quote]

I wasnt trying to disagree with you. I think what the majority of fans want ends up winning out. And as of now, that is shootouts. So protecting the QB and making it a pass happy QB/offense driven league wins out and thats the direction that the NFL is taking.

I wasnt meaning to say you wanted a 6-3 game with what I was talking about in that post. I was meaning it as if thats what the majority of fans wanted, the NFL would move that direction as best they could among the lawsuits and talk of player safety. If bringing back defense to make it fair for both sides of the ball actually brought in more money. The NFL would move that direction imo.

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[quote=skinsfan69;994766]RG3 will be fine. I just sucks that this entire off season will be devoted to rehab. I wonder if he will get any reps in pre season.[/quote]

Honestly, I hope not.

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[quote=Mattyk;994755]Recovering from a 2nd knee reconstruction with an entire season in front of him is a different story, I think he's going to approach it a bit more wisely.[/quote]


I hope for our sakes you are right. I personally don't trust the kid when it comes to his own health. I think he still feels he has to prove how "tough" he is, and that he'll readily rush out before being truly ready. You can't trust him, not after that fiasco. I have a feeling Shanny doesn't trust him either concerning his own health.

[quote=SkinzWin;994761]Have to learn your limitations somehow. Give the guy a break. This was his first season in the NFL. I believe he now understands what he can and can not do with regards to sacrificing his body. His knee is a result of what he can learn from. I think he will be much smarter with a season under his belt this year.[/quote]

I'll give the guy a break when he proves it, until then I'm going on by his actions so far. We can hope he's smarter than what he showed last year, but the proof is in the pudding. I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994779]I hope for our sakes you are right. I personally don't trust the kid when it comes to his own health. I think he still feels he has to prove how "tough" he is, and that he'll readily rush out before being truly ready. You can't trust him, not after that fiasco. I have a feeling Shanny doesn't trust him either concerning his own health.

I'll give the guy a break when he proves it, until then I'm going on by his actions so far. We can hope he's smarter than what he showed last year, but the proof is in the pudding. I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.[/quote]

Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? [URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/02/photos-how-brett-favres-ankle-and-hamstring-turned-purple-after-vikings-loss-to-saints/1#.USQp8KV4U5Q"]The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck[/URL]. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.

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Good point Matty.

It all falls back to the mentality of football and of the football player. The coach is responsible for removing player x, but at what point? Hindsight is 20/20. If he miraculously led us back in that game at the end and afterwards we were told he won the game with torn knee ligaments he would be even more of an icon. QBs have done it before.

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[quote=Mattyk;994780]Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? [URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/02/photos-how-brett-favres-ankle-and-hamstring-turned-purple-after-vikings-loss-to-saints/1#.USQp8KV4U5Q"]The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck[/URL]. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.[/quote]


He's not any different, and I never said I blame him. He's doing exactly what I would have done. I said I don't trust him concerning health issues.

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Keep in mind people that RG did this recent commercial for money, not to prove a point. Derrick Rose did the same thing, he was trying to sell stuff for Adidas. Samething for RG3 I know his ego and image is big, but he's a smart kid who knows that his 10+ year career of making money will end before year 5 if he rushes his major surgery and gets hurt again. I agree to an extent with NC Skins about RG trying to prove his toughness, but I also think his dad, his coach, his owner, his teammates, agent, girlfriend, Adidas, Gatorade, and so on are saying dont rush it.

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Chicks with kicks.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/32991/Female-kicker-will-compete-at-regional-combine-for-first-time/Default.aspx]Female kicker will compete at regional combine for first time[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;994780]Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? [URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/02/photos-how-brett-favres-ankle-and-hamstring-turned-purple-after-vikings-loss-to-saints/1#.USQp8KV4U5Q"]The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck[/URL]. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.[/quote]

I think the big difference between older, HOF quarterbacks and Griffin is mobility. Favre was not a huge run threat like Griffin was. If he got hit and bruised it was in the pocket. With Griffin on the run it lends him to put himself in more vulnerable positions to get himself injured. Favre can flop in the pocket and get hit easier than Griffin can on the run in a full sprint.

The issue here is Griffin running and going for that little bit extra instead of sliding and being protected from hits because of rules against hitting sliding quarterbacks. If Griffin would have slid instead of getting lit up by Haloti Ngata, his knee may never have been an issue. He just has to make better decisions finishing runs. If his tweet about not jeopardizing his career is serious, he needs to start with finishing runs smarter.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;994822]Chicks with kicks.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/32991/Female-kicker-will-compete-at-regional-combine-for-first-time/Default.aspx]Female kicker will compete at regional combine for first time[/url][/quote]

I hope it's not just to say, "I did it". Do it because you want to play and you're good at it.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/report-fred-davis-ahead-of-schedule-in-achilles-rehab/]Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;994853][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/report-fred-davis-ahead-of-schedule-in-achilles-rehab/"]Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

When does anyone say the player is behind schdeule? lol. Hope we get a long term deal done w/ Davis. I'd like to see this offense with everyone healthy and ready to go come Sept. I'd also like to see Robinson become a consistent complete wr. He's got the tools and he's got the speed. Hopefully he can take his game up a notch.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;994853][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/report-fred-davis-ahead-of-schedule-in-achilles-rehab/]Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Does anyone really think "a source" is not Fred's agent?

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Doug Williams on TV, he got a little heavy...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;994853][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/report-fred-davis-ahead-of-schedule-in-achilles-rehab/]Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

[quote=skinsfan69;994855]When does anyone say the player is behind schdeule? lol. [/quote]

The first comment at the bottom of the article sums it up pretty much.


[quote]All surgeries are successful … everyone’s rehab is ahead of schedule … every player is going to come back 100%.[/quote]

Most of the time, it's just a load of smoke being blown up our asses. PR talk.

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[quote=skinsfan69;994765]Guys I've heard critique the new rules....Deion Sanders, Warren Sapp, Rod Woodson, Tom Jackson, Lavar Arrington, Brian Mitchell, Darren Sharper and a wr from GB James Jones...to name a few. I could go on and on. None have lawsuits against the NFL.[/quote]

I'm sure Junior Seau, Ray Easterling, and Dave Duerson would beg to differ.

No shocker but ESPN hires ray Lewis