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12thMan 03-11-2013 04:58 PM

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Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell
Shanahan: Redskins are not restructuring Santana Moss' deal at this time. They're talking to many players about restructuring.

Alvin Walton 03-11-2013 05:01 PM

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Watching the presser right now.
Shanahan just said we are one million under the cap.

warriorzpath 03-11-2013 05:03 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;997525]Watching the presser right now.
Shanahan just said we are one million under the cap.[/quote]

Enough to sign OT Ryan Harris tomorrow?

Alvin Walton 03-11-2013 05:04 PM

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He also hinted that we may have room to sign one or two players in free agency.
But he sounded a little despondent as he said that.

warriorzpath 03-11-2013 05:06 PM

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[quote=12thMan;997506]Bruce Allen says "we did violate any rule or regulation. [B][U]We were never warned[/U][/B]." #Redskins[/quote]


That's interesting because that conflicts with several comments from Mara and Goodell.

NYCskinfan82 03-11-2013 05:13 PM

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[quote=warriorzpath;997526]Enough to sign OT Ryan Harris tomorrow?[/quote]

That's what I'd like to see.

Dirtbag59 03-11-2013 05:55 PM

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I hope they resign Polumbus. To me he's the Offensive Tackle version of Ryan Clark. The type of guy we won't appreciate until he's gone, because while he never got the praise of guys like Silverback or even Montgomery he didn't get the hate that guys like Heyer got either. The fact that he was barely noticed makes him ideal granted he doesn't go crazy during negotiations.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo
I'm told negotiating process has resumed between #Redskins and UFA Lorenzo Alexander. Sav Rocca, Polumbus, RFA Chris Baker still waiting
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Gtothearry 03-11-2013 06:07 PM

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;997547]I hope they resign Polumbus. To me he's the Offensive Tackle version of Ryan Clark. The type of guy we won't appreciate until he's gone, because while he never got the praise of guys like Silverback or even Montgomery he didn't get the hate that guys like Heyer got either. The fact that he was barely noticed makes him ideal granted he doesn't go crazy during negotiations.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo
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I agree, although he wasn't the greatest he went unnoticed for the most part which is a major plus imo.

mbedner3420 03-11-2013 06:08 PM

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[quote=warriorzpath;997526]Enough to sign OT Ryan Harris tomorrow?[/quote]

Man, that would be a good pick-up.

CultBrennan59 03-11-2013 06:11 PM

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Shanahan has passed on Ryan Harris 2 times now, is the 3rd time the charm? Probably not

Skin43 03-11-2013 06:13 PM

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Didn't we have a kid in pre-season that could have went in the 2nd round but we signed undrafted because of injury? He was a CB, I think Minnifield was his name? Is he under contract still?
Maybe he can fill the void from D. Hall?

DynamiteRave 03-11-2013 06:13 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;997547]I hope they resign Polumbus. To me he's the Offensive Tackle version of Ryan Clark. The type of guy we won't appreciate until he's gone, because while he never got the praise of guys like Silverback or even Montgomery he didn't get the hate that guys like Heyer got either. The fact that he was barely noticed makes him ideal granted he doesn't go crazy during negotiations.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo
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I don't mind Polumbus as a backup, I still don't think he's starting material, but I do think provides decent depth. He gets beat pretty often, enough so that I think he's the weak link on the line, but he's good enough that if we were in a pinch, he could stand in.

I appreciate dudes like Chris Chester, who never got his named called. So I don't expect T. Williams type of solidity, but if you can be average and not let dudes completely run past you, (like what often happens when Polumbus is against someone more agile than him) I'm cool with you.

mbedner3420 03-11-2013 06:17 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997555]Shanahan has passed on Ryan Harris 2 times now, is the 3rd time the charm? Probably not[/quote]

I can only hope that the third time is the charm... But it won't be...

NYCskinfan82 03-11-2013 06:26 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997555]Shanahan has passed on Ryan Harris 2 times now, is the 3rd time the charm? Probably not[/quote]

Yeah would have to agee, but I can dream can't I.

Dirtbag59 03-11-2013 06:36 PM

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[quote=Skin43;997557]Didn't we have a kid in pre-season that could have went in the 2nd round but we signed undrafted because of injury? He was a CB, I think Minnifield was his name? Is he under contract still?
Maybe he can fill the void from D. Hall?[/quote]

Just real quick I got to get my annual I hate Corners rant out of the way. Corners suck. They're prima donnas who can't catch and they play to far away from the ball to justify their current rep especially with the increased emphasis on Tight Ends and slot receivers. Give me a great safety over a corner any day.

*end rant*

With that said corner is one of the safest positions in the draft, right up there with offensive tackle (:cussing: of course it's safe, they're only involved in 3 or 4 plays a game). On top of that theres a HUGE cluster of corners with 2nd and 3rd round grades. Scouts Inc has 6 CB's with 2nd round grades and 8 CB's with 3rd round grades.

Now granted there's only one corner with a 1st round grade so a couple of those 2nd round guys could be reach picks near the end of the first round but if we're looking for a corner with one of our first two picks, well safe to say it shouldn't be much of a problem.

As for Minnifield, could produce, likely won't. Top two reasons for players being a bust at the NFL (not that Chase is much of a risk to be a bust as an UDFA) are character concerns and durability. The odds are not in his favor, especially seeing as how he went undrafted despite his considerable potential which means teams might have been scared stiff during the medical part of his evaluation last year.

GTripp0012 03-11-2013 07:00 PM

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Carriker's deal pushes $1.4 million in salary to 2014, and re-categorizes it as an incentive. Basically, Carriker needs to hit incentives to get paid full salary for this year, and if he does hit them, we lose $1.4 million off our total cap pool next year. If he doesn't hit them, money is never paid, and is never reflected on the cap.

NYCskinfan82 03-11-2013 07:03 PM

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Nice to see players want to be apart of the NEW WINNING SKINS.

The Goat 03-11-2013 07:16 PM

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[quote=warriorzpath;997530]That's interesting because that conflicts with several comments from Mara and Goodell.[/quote]

As a long time (sometimes over zealos) critic of Shanny, I'll take his word over Mara and Goodell's any day of the week and twice on Sunday. But what's done is done.

I think the FO is managing our situation damned well, assuming RT and FS performance improve over last year.

The Goat 03-11-2013 07:17 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;997547][B]I hope they resign Polumbus. To me he's the Offensive Tackle version of Ryan Clark.[/B] The type of guy we won't appreciate until he's gone, because while he never got the praise of guys like Silverback or even Montgomery he didn't get the hate that guys like Heyer got either. The fact that he was barely noticed makes him ideal granted he doesn't go crazy during negotiations.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo
I'm told negotiating process has resumed between #Redskins and UFA Lorenzo Alexander. Sav Rocca, Polumbus, RFA Chris Baker still waiting
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W...t...f?

CultBrennan59 03-11-2013 08:02 PM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;997562]Yeah would have to agee, but I can dream can't I.[/quote]

NO! You didn't read the warpath contract agreement?! /sarcasm



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Lol your dream may come true

Jake Russell ‏@_JakeRussell
MT @Mr_KevinJones Team source: Texans OT Ryan Harris likely will be a target for #Redskins, as early as this week.

NYCskinfan82 03-11-2013 08:03 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997578]NO! You didn't read the warpath contract agreement?! /sarcasm[/quote]


Damm! that fine print.

Chico23231 03-11-2013 08:08 PM

Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;997578]NO! You didn't read the warpath contract agreement?! /sarcasm



EDIT

Lol your dream may come true

Jake Russell ‏@_JakeRussell
MT @Mr_KevinJones Team source: Texans OT Ryan Harris likely will be a target for #Redskins, as early as this week.[/quote]

Makes sense. Harris was injured coming into last year, but played solid for the texans down the stretch.

GTripp0012 03-11-2013 08:09 PM

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[quote=The Goat;997569]As a long time (sometimes over zealos) critic of Shanny, I'll take his word over Mara and Goodell's any day of the week and twice on Sunday. But what's done is done.

I think the FO is managing our situation damned well, assuming RT and FS performance improve over last year.[/quote]I echo the first sentiment.

Secondly, I think they're already improved at RT over last year, assuming you mean marginally improved. Whether or not they re-sign Polumbus as the backup or just give the swing man role to Maurice Hurt, the idea is that Tom Compton is going to have to win the job at RT.

I don't agree with skimping at the right tackle position, but knowing that our lack of resources are going to create a deficiency in at least one area of the team because of limited salary cap space and draft picks, I understand a Tony Pashos/Tom Compton camp battle to be a starting tackle (loser misses the roster).

It's just imperative now that we take our two day 2 draft picks and enough salary cap space to sign about two quality free agents, and fill the three remaining holes (TE, CB, S). To be honest though, if Davis re-signs, they should be able to address all three in free agency, and in position to just draft the best player available.

warriorzpath 03-11-2013 08:11 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997555]Shanahan has passed on Ryan Harris 2 times now, is the 3rd time the charm? Probably not[/quote]

I have a gut-feeling the 3rd times a charm this time around because of the lack of salary cap to work with and he would be an affordable upgrade over Polumbus. And it doesn't appear that they are really putting priority in re-signing Polumbus. Also this time around, there may be less competition for Harris's services since there are a number of Offensive Tackles available in free agency and the Texans don't appear ready to re-sign him.

mbedner3420 03-11-2013 08:24 PM

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@Mr_KevinJones: Team source: Texans OT Ryan Harris likely will be a target for #Redskins, as early as this week. Shanny drafted the 28-year-old in 2007

Don't know how legitimate this is, but it's a good sign to me..

theJBexperience 03-11-2013 08:27 PM

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Smoke screen? I thought we had no cap space to make any big moves like this:

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2013/03/11/washington-redskins-to-pursue-aqib-talib-new-england-patriots-free-agent-cornerback/1980639/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter]Redskins set sights on Aqib Talib[/url]

mbedner3420 03-11-2013 08:29 PM

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[quote=theJBexperience;997589]Smoke screen? I thought we had no cap space to make any big moves like this:

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2013/03/11/washington-redskins-to-pursue-aqib-talib-new-england-patriots-free-agent-cornerback/1980639/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter]Redskins set sights on Aqib Talib[/url][/quote]

That has to be a smokescreen right?

T.O.Killa 03-11-2013 08:41 PM

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[quote=theJBexperience;997589]Smoke screen? I thought we had no cap space to make any big moves like this:

[URL="http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2013/03/11/washington-redskins-to-pursue-aqib-talib-new-england-patriots-free-agent-cornerback/1980639/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter"]Redskins set sights on Aqib Talib[/URL][/quote]
I have been saying the whole time we can make at least one or even two big free agent moves.

warriorzpath 03-11-2013 08:41 PM

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[quote=theJBexperience;997589]Smoke screen? I thought we had no cap space to make any big moves like this:

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2013/03/11/washington-redskins-to-pursue-aqib-talib-new-england-patriots-free-agent-cornerback/1980639/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter]Redskins set sights on Aqib Talib[/url][/quote]

Smoke screen for who and for what reason?

theJBexperience 03-11-2013 08:41 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;997590]That has to be a smokescreen right?[/quote]

It could be a smokescreen to get Toler or Cox. I've read the Pats are also interested in signing Cox. But the way the press conference went today, it's probably a smokescreen for Biggers or Mack.

warriorzpath 03-11-2013 08:43 PM

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Signing Talib will require cutting at the very least - Moss.

warriorzpath 03-11-2013 08:50 PM

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I think there's some real interest in Talib. There's also probably some talks with some other corners too. But I think there's some legitimate push in signing Talib especially from the coach that developed him as a player.

NC_Skins 03-11-2013 09:26 PM

Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013
 
[quote=theJBexperience;997589]Smoke screen? I thought we had no cap space to make any big moves like this:

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2013/03/11/washington-redskins-to-pursue-aqib-talib-new-england-patriots-free-agent-cornerback/1980639/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter]Redskins set sights on Aqib Talib[/url][/quote]


They might get creative if they cut Moss, and get cute with his contract.

CultBrennan59 03-11-2013 09:50 PM

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It could also be to make New England over pay for talib have less money to sign guys like Welker and vollmer as well as 2nd tier guys like Chung and Arrington, Arrington we supposedly have interest in.

Evilgrin 03-11-2013 10:12 PM

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Talib sucks.

Skins4L 03-11-2013 10:22 PM

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If we cut hall for talib well regret it. Not for releasing hall so much but for immediately replacing him with talib. If we do I hope its a 1year deal. We might have to if we want to contend now but we should hold our money and go after the top sure bet in FA next year.

donofriose 03-11-2013 10:34 PM

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[quote=Skins4L;997605]We might have to if we want to contend now but we should hold our money and go after the top sure bet in FA next year.[/quote]

There is no such thing as a sure bet FA.

skinsfaninok 03-11-2013 10:42 PM

Is talib that much better than Hall? I mean he didn't look that great in NE last season.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-11-2013 10:52 PM

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[quote=Evilgrin;997603]Talib sucks.[/quote]


Really? Sucks huh?

Bubba305-ST21- 03-11-2013 11:01 PM

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the man doesnt suck, hes good at playing the ball. Quite on honestly he is better than anyone we have on our roster to replace Hall now. I wouldn't overpay but i would keep an open mind with everyone including Talib. Raheem has dealt with him first hand, I trust his opinion. P.S. Where is SmootSmack when you need him, Since I signed up for this forum a few years ago now, this was his time of year! miss you buddy wherever you are.


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