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[quote=ethat001;1000422]Wouldn't it be fair to say that our lack of good safety play for the past few years has exposed Hall's weaknesses? I feel like a corner can only gamble effectively if he has help behind him.

For example, if Hall played with Sean Taylor (or Ed Reed) behind him, perhaps he would be more who he thinks he is.[/quote]


I said that all of last season. When Hall is getting beat...really, how many of these would be TDs with ANY capable safety help behind him?

We were playing guys like Pugh and Bernstein by the end of the year...who would be practice squad guys on most teams. Madieu Williams was toasted far more than anyone on the team.

If Meriweather and Jackson were starting all season, we might have been fine, but when our projected starters were basically on the shelf for every single game of the year...the talent level is very low. Williams, Gomes and Doughty were starters most of the season...that's not good.

Imagine this scenario in another position...at WR it would be like playing without Garcon and Moss all year...starting Morgan and who..Hankerson/Banks/Robinson all year. What if our best two CBs were out...Hall and Wilson...we would have been starting Cedric Griffin and who, Crawford all year?

No position can survive when your top two starters never see the field. unfortunately, when it happens at the safety position, it's going to be exploited for a lot of big TDs by opponents and it hurts the entire defense.

I've maintained that if we sure up the safety position with REAL talent, not band-aids, Hall and Wilson would be a great CB tandem. Wilson and Antoine Winfield could look great with good safeties behind them.

I hope we use our first couple of draft picks on safeties. That's the most urgent need on the team.

If by some miracle we can grab Matt Elam or Phillip Thomas in the 2nd...huge.

I hope Tyronn Matthieu is there for us in Round 4. If we could get him and D.J. Swearinger in the 3rd...great draft.

My dream draft, get two of those four guys...sign Winfield AND Hall...to move Hall to FS or keep for nickel duty. We can't count on Meriweather being on the field but if he is...HUGE bonus.

Play the better of the two rookies in camp at SS, Hall at FS. if Meriweather is healthy, start him and use Hall as the 3rd CB.

Suddenly, the secondary is solid.

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The lady elephant would be a beast. She would change the game. Unstoppable. Sometimes she would score points for us, others safties, and other times she would trample the crowd

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[quote=Monkeydad;1000471]I said that all of last season. When Hall is getting beat...really, how many of these would be TDs with ANY capable safety help behind him?

We were playing guys like Pugh and Bernstein by the end of the year...who would be practice squad guys on most teams. Madieu Williams was toasted far more than anyone on the team.

If Meriweather and Jackson were starting all season, we might have been fine, but when our projected starters were basically on the shelf for every single game of the year...the talent level is very low. Williams, Gomes and Doughty were starters most of the season...that's not good.

Imagine this scenario in another position...at WR it would be like playing without Garcon and Moss all year...starting Morgan and who..Hankerson/Banks/Robinson all year. What if our best two CBs were out...Hall and Wilson...we would have been starting Cedric Griffin and who, Crawford all year?

No position can survive when your top two starters never see the field. unfortunately, when it happens at the safety position, it's going to be exploited for a lot of big TDs by opponents and it hurts the entire defense.

I've maintained that if we sure up the safety position with REAL talent, not band-aids, Hall and Wilson would be a great CB tandem. Wilson and Antoine Winfield could look great with good safeties behind them.

I hope we use our first couple of draft picks on safeties. That's the most urgent need on the team.

If by some miracle we can grab Matt Elam or Phillip Thomas in the 2nd...huge.

I hope Tyronn Matthieu is there for us in Round 4. If we could get him and D.J. Swearinger in the 3rd...great draft.

My dream draft, get two of those four guys...sign Winfield AND Hall...to move Hall to FS or keep for nickel duty. We can't count on Meriweather being on the field but if he is...HUGE bonus.

Play the better of the two rookies in camp at SS, Hall at FS. if Meriweather is healthy, start him and use Hall as the 3rd CB.

Suddenly, the secondary is solid.[/quote]

I agree 100% with the exception of playing Hall at FS. He doesnt seem to have that mentality to play there and with a competent FS he is a good corner which is where he belongs.

I would love that draft.

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Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1000480]Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.[/quote]

Some of us never will, as previously discussed.

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I really miss Verlon Biggs.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1000480]Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.[/quote]

Says someone using the name ALVIN WALTON.

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Alvin Walton isnt dead and I doubt I've ever mentioned his name in this forum.
I do know of a lot of dead monkeys and I dont pine for them either.

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there was a long and heated discussion before about the whole 'missing ST' thing... points were clearly made so no need to bring it back up and re hash it, theres two sides to the argument and in this case no one on either will budge an inch. let us continue to pay our respects in whatever fashion we'd like and move about your business.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1000480]Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.[/quote]

You think the Skins give a player #21 this year?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1000498]Alvin Walton isnt dead and I doubt I've ever mentioned his name in this forum.
[B]I do know of a lot of dead monkeys and I dont pine for them either.[/B][/quote]

???? That maybe a really bad choice of words.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1000498]Alvin Walton isnt dead and I doubt I've ever mentioned his name in this forum.
I do know of a lot of dead monkeys and I dont pine for them either.[/quote]

Hey now. Not cool.


[quote=mredskins;1000511]???? That maybe a really bad choice of words.[/quote]

Thank you.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1000509]You think the Skins give a player #21 this year?[/quote]

Not a chance.

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..........Oh sure...who does not miss Cheetah?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1000509]You think the Skins give a player #21 this year?[/quote]

I don't know if they will ever allow that number to be used again. If they do it will be a few (10+) before they do.

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There are a few numbers that should never be used again. #21 is one of them along with 9, 44, 28, 33(not sure if officially retired) 81 and probably a few more that I didn't mention

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[quote=VTSkins1961;1000563]There are a few numbers that should never be used again. #21 is one of them along with 9, 44, 28, 33(not sure if officially retired) 81 and probably a few more that I didn't mention[/quote]

Yeah but there's 99 numbers to chose from and with positions being required to wear certain ranges of numbers there comes a point where you say we can't retire a lot of numbers

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[quote=mredskins;1000511]???? That maybe a really bad choice of words.[/quote]

Was thinking the same. Had to read it twice and then I just sat here stumped for a moment.

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[quote=The Goat;1000571]Was thinking the same. Had to read it twice and then I just sat here stumped for a moment.[/quote]

I'm stumped too.

I can't figure out if that was a death threat on me or a racist comment.

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Time for Part III?

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[quote=RGIII;1000432]The secondary (especially Hall) needed an improved pass rush. [B]Still scratching my head with the Goldston re-signing.[/B] That seems like money that could've been saved.[/quote]

Was thinking the same thing.

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[quote=Chico23231;1000576]Time for Part III?[/quote]

I think you might be right.

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[quote=Chico23231;1000576]Time for Part III?[/quote]

Yep. This one...

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Next year should be good:

[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/27/4140002/nfl-free-agent-tracker-list-2014]NFL free agent list: Clay Matthews, Matt Ryan top 2014 list - SBNation.com[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1000622]Next year should be good:

[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/27/4140002/nfl-free-agent-tracker-list-2014]NFL free agent list: Clay Matthews, Matt Ryan top 2014 list - SBNation.com[/url][/quote]

Most of players on the list will be resign by their team

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Anyone in the washington area with an update on Antoine Winfield? I know he was visiting today. I hope he signs

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He is in town and he is with the team as of four hours ago. The word is not to expect a deal tonight.

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Per @russellmania980

[url=http://nfltweeter.com/redskins/]Washington Redskins | NFLTweeter.com[/url]

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1000637]Per @russellmania980

[url=http://nfltweeter.com/redskins/]Washington Redskins | NFLTweeter.com[/url][/quote]

Damn that site is really good. I had an idea to build a site with this exact format, but it looks like they beat me to it... Oh well.

[QUOTE=Monkeydad;1000575]I'm stumped too.

I can't figure out if that was a death threat on me or a racist comment.[/QUOTE]

He was making a jab at your name, like you did about his being Alvin Walton. I didn't come across as racist comment.

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[quote=redskins5044;1000642]He was making a jab at your name, like you did about his being Alvin Walton. [B]I didn't come across as racist comment.[/B][/quote]

Because you didn't say it.

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Its the off-season! The Redskins aren't making any important signings! Everyone take thinly veiled jabs at each other because we have nothing better to do!

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1000650]Its the off-season! The Redskins aren't making any important signings! Everyone take thinly veiled jabs at each other because we have nothing better to do![/quote]

I will watch PTI from time to time. They can be entertaining at times, but I think they made a mountain out of a mole hill with the stance they took on RGIII's 'tweet?' Was waiting for the pig to run by and say C'mon Man!

I think RGIII recognizes that he was probably more culpable than anyone else with regard to reinjuring his knee. By no means do I think he was taking any sort of shot at Shanny or anyone else for that matter.

[QUOTE=The Goat;1000648]Because you didn't say it.[/QUOTE]

I made a typo, it should have read it didn't come off as racist to me. Was using my phone to post and couldn't edit it.

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the dreaded sent from my android/iPhone post!

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1000653]I will watch PTI from time to time. They can be entertaining at times, but I think they made a mountain out of a mole hill with the stance they took on RGIII's 'tweet?' Was waiting for the pig to run by and say C'mon Man!

I think RGIII recognizes that he was probably more culpable than anyone else with regard to reinjuring his knee. By no means do I think he was taking any sort of shot at Shanny or anyone else for that matter.[/quote]

I honestly cannot believe the commentary regarding III's tweet to Wingo. It frustrates me as a fan, but in the media that is what they do now. Take things people communicate to them and read into it to a point of making the communicator out to be a villian or using the media to voice a frustration to sell air time and get ratings.

You would think that people who have actually had the opportunity to meet and speak with III would have a better understanding of what the kid is all about and his character.

Does III really need to air his dirty laundry out in the media? NO he has the ear of everyone in the FO of the organization. From the GM, to the owner, the head coach, his coordinator, and his position coach he can speak to anyone with out a problem and voice any concerns he may have.

BUT NO, he sends a tweet to Wingo to give him a little info and some misconstrue it to fit their needs and get ratings.

The only question I have now for anyone is to the III and how he feels about ESPN's handling of his communication.

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anyone want to help Pierre Garcon?


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Anyone with half a clue would know there is no way RGIII would take a shot at his coaches or doctors via a text message. Just ridiculous.

I thought it was pretty clear from his text that he took responsibility for himself, and basically said everyone else involved knows their responsibility as well. How is that a shot at anyone?

It's really a shame that people are twisting his words. Especially people that know better.

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[quote=Mattyk;1000677]Anyone with half a clue would know there is no way RGIII would take a shot at his coaches or doctors via a text message. Just ridiculous.

I thought it was pretty clear from his text that he took responsibility for himself, and basically said everyone else involved knows their responsibility as well. How is that a shot at anyone?

It's really a shame that people are twisting his words. Especially people that know better.[/quote]

Because people want to make lemons out of lemonade. So they can get rating, page views and get their number of followers up.

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I think the Redskins should bring in Eric Winston for a visit. The market has cooled on him and maybe they can swing a deal for a perfect fit. You can carry all 4 tackles through camp then cut 2 before the start of the season.