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Who won the game?

I am to lazy to look back.

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Rob has been getting better every week....he is FAR from our biggest problem. We can't tackle, can't cover, can't run block, etc. He's improved each week 3 more weeks and he will be much improved. We have way too many issues than just Rob not being Rob yet. I think if we lose next wknd there will be a change. I'm thinking Haz will be out and Raheem gets a shot at it. We will see though.

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[quote=mredskins;1028196]Who won the game?

I am to lazy to look back.[/quote]


lmao cmon man take it easy

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[quote=mredskins;1028196]Who won the game?

I am to lazy to look back.[/quote]

The Cleveland Browns.

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‏[B]@HTTR24_7

Have now heard another name besides Rah in the possible DC race twice now..Just rumors right now tho.[/B]



...and so it begins.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1028185]Hurt early. Looked minor like a cramp but he never came back. Josh Wilson took his place at FS.



[B]Meriweather survived an entire game![/B]



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Update, Rambo was suffering from PMS:

[URL="http://news.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2013/09/22/injury-updates-jordan-reed-bruises-knee/"]Injury Updates: Jordan Reed Bruises Knee | Redskins Journal[/URL][/quote]

You guys notice that Meriweather took out Orakpo for a short time yesterday? So here is the total for Meriweather through 2 games, He has lead with his head 3 times and taken out Eddie Lacy, himself, and a team mate Orakpo. If he will just go head first into the goal post, he will hit for the cycle :doh:!!!!

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[quote=Chico23231;1028178]RG3 is the 20th rated passer folks. 20th. But yet people spewing that garbage he is fine. 20th rated passer is not fine. Not at all. Dont bring that garbage again this week.[/quote]

He is lucky to be ranked 20th. Take away junk yards and he is closer to 30th.

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Ok, who was the RB who leveled the Lions Right End (I Think) on a play. I was surprised the bad announcers did not pick up on the hit. The guys feet were over his head as he came down.

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Ronde barber is terrible
he didn't even know who russell wilson was

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/963/washington-redskins-need-more-than-robert-griffin-iii]Washington Redskins need more than Robert Griffin III - ESPN[/url]

John Kleim (snickers) with another great article.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1028188]That's not totally true, all our other picks are higher in each round also.[/quote] Ya , the Rams might end up with 2 top 10 picks ...

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[quote=scowan;1028202]You guys notice that Meriweather took out Orakpo for a short time yesterday? So here is the total for Meriweather through 2 games, He has lead with his head 3 times and taken out Eddie Lacy, himself, and a team mate Orakpo. If he will just go head first into the goal post, he will hit for the cycle :doh:!!!![/quote]

Yeah, for all of the we want BM back to help with the safety position, I really haven't seen the guy do much. Morris needs to sit his ass down and teach him how to wrap up. All he does is launch himself when he is attempting to make a tackle. I don't know if it is his injury or just the way he plays.

Interesting that Rambo was only cramping and never saw anymore action. JW must have done a decent job at FS to not warrant his return.

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The one thing RG3 can do immediately to help turn this team around is to not commit two completely unforced turnovers.

Outside of that, none of this mess is on the quarterback.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1028210]Yeah, for all of the we want BM back to help with the safety position, I really haven't seen the guy do much. Morris needs to sit his ass down and teach him how to wrap up. All he does is launch himself when he is attempting to make a tackle. I don't know if it is his injury or just the way he plays.

Interesting that Rambo was only cramping and never saw anymore action. JW must have done a decent job at FS to not warrant his return.[/quote]Meriweather has been awful. I understand that he's probably the one guy on the roster who is trying to gut it out at less than solid health, but he starts and finishes every play out of position, and you need to be some kind of athlete to make up for that.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1028211]The one thing RG3 can do immediately to help turn this team around is to not commit two completely unforced turnovers.

Outside of that, none of this mess is on the quarterback.[/quote]

Agreed 1000%.

Although without his pretty bad turnovers, this team might be 2-1 going back to Philly.

Still, while I don't think Rg3 has played great, I do see him getting better and more comfortable and still happy to have him as my QB.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1027897]B. Mitch makes a good point... We made over 400 yards of offense, but only had 13 points on offense.

That's pretty bad.[/quote]

Not enough trips to the redzone.

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Ha, I just thought of something. JW did help shore up the safety position we only gave up 386 passing yards to Stafford instead of the 480+ we gave up to Rodgers. Either that or GB is just better by 100 yards....

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[quote=GTripp0012;1028213]Meriweather has been awful. I understand that he's probably the one guy on the roster who is trying to gut it out at less than solid health, but he starts and finishes every play out of position, and you need to be some kind of athlete to make up for that.[/quote]

I noticed more than a few times yesterday ( the announcers alluded to it later in the broadcast ) that the back end of the defense is not working very well together pre snap at all. Miss communication, bad alignment, sometimes guys on the outside look like they have no idea what the play call are or thier assignments, and of course frustration. This is before the ball is even snapped. The Lions two scoring drives in the first half is where this was evident.

That's all on the coaching and the LB getting the calls out to the defense.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1028217]I noticed more than a few times yesterday ( the announcers alluded to it later in the broadcast ) that the back end of the defense is not working very well together pre snap at all. Miss communication, bad alignment, sometimes guys on the outside look like they have no idea what the play call are or thier assignments, and of course frustration. This is before the ball is even snapped. The Lions two scoring drives in the first half is where this was evident.

That's all on the coaching and the LB getting the calls out to the defense.[/quote]

I've heard a couple of analysts note that it doesn't seem like anyone on the back half knows what coverages they are in. B. Mitch said he was watching the Packers game with Shawn Springs and Springs wondered numerous times what coverage scheme we were running because it didn't make any sense. It goes to something that Keim said years ago from a former coach that while Haslett has some sound blitz packages, his coverage schemes are very suspect and sometimes flat out flawed.

Examples, Riley man up on Cobb last week? On the final TD to Megatron he had Kerrigan and Riley in zone with Merriweather over the top inside the 10 yard line? Really?!?! I'd rather us pressure and play man on the back end. At least we could get some hurries or sacks because our coverage unit is pathetic.

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I'm just insanely frustrated with how thins have turned out. I don't know.

I tend to agree that Robert is getting better with each game. We just have to patient. This is only his third game this year. Didn't get much work in training camp or preseason. I really think things will click with this team. As bad as the defense has been, I can't imagine where'd we be without Kerrigan and some of the plays by D.Hall. We'll find our way.

A change in defensive coaching might be in order. I don't know if Rah is the answer, but Has' time may have run it's course here in D.C. Bottom line, until Robert starts to turn it up a notch the team will probably continue to play spotty instead of dominating football.

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It might be time just to go with Barnett in the middle. too.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1028217]I noticed more than a few times yesterday ( the announcers alluded to it later in the broadcast ) that the back end of the defense is not working very well together pre snap at all. Miss communication, bad alignment, sometimes guys on the outside look like they have no idea what the play call are or thier assignments, and of course frustration. This is before the ball is even snapped. The Lions two scoring drives in the first half is where this was evident.

That's all on the coaching and the LB getting the calls out to the defense.[/quote]Yeah, and a couple times Riley was making the defensive calls with Barnett in for Fletcher. I don't know any way we can evaluate defensive changes made before the snap, but I will say that we got so used to Fletcher getting us in good alignment right before the snap that we simply can't be the same defense if Fletcher isn't on the field.

Fletcher's season to date is an excellent example of why there aren't any historical comparables for a 38 year old linebacker. Typically, they spend the pre-snap phase on a beach somewhere.

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[quote=12thMan;1028219]I'm just insanely frustrated with how thins have turned out. I don't know.

I tend to agree that Robert is getting better with each game. We just have to patient. This is only his third game this year. Didn't get much work in training camp or preseason. I really think things will click with this team. As bad as the defense has been, I can't imagine where'd we be without Kerrigan and some of the plays by D.Hall. We'll find our way.

A change in defensive coaching might be in order. I don't know if Rah is the answer, but Has' time may have run it's course here in D.C. Bottom line, until Robert starts to turn it up a notch the team will probably continue to play spotty instead of dominating football.[/quote]

I mean how is it that the redskins get worse after a 10 win season?? It just sucks man, I was really looking forward to this year and it really seems like it's already over

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[quote=12thMan;1028219]I'm just insanely frustrated with how thins have turned out. I don't know.

I tend to agree that Robert is getting better with each game. We just have to patient. This is only his third game this year. Didn't get much work in training camp or preseason. I really think things will click with this team. [B]As bad as the defense has been, I can't imagine where'd we be without Kerrigan and some of the plays by D.Hall[/B]. We'll find our way.

A change in defensive coaching might be in order. I don't know if Rah is the answer, but Has' time may have run it's course here in D.C. Bottom line, until Robert starts to turn it up a notch the team will probably continue to play spotty instead of dominating football.[/quote]0-3, most likely.

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@skinsfaninok The expectations were justifiably high after winning the division last year. It's possible that Robert's injury dealt a serious blow to the team's psyche that they're still recovering from. That along with play calling issues. We're just not in harmony, yet.

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For me, the problem is that they have not been all that competitive in any of the games played. Even in the Lions game there was not a feeling that the Redskins was going to pull it off. The offense is sputtering and too reliant on an injured player. The defense is terrible. The question becomes what is the solution?

I believe that Hasslet has to go. There has to be a message sent that the defense is unacceptable. I read an article where Josh Wilson was quoted in saying that it doesn't matter if teams get 1000+ yards on us as long as we win or they don't score. That mindset doesn't work. You need to give your offense better field position.

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actually D hall has played OK so far, and sat what u want about him but he gets INTS

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[quote=GTripp0012;1028211]The one thing RG3 can do immediately to help turn this team around is to not commit two completely unforced turnovers.

Outside of that, none of this mess is on the quarterback.[/quote]

Don't know if I'd go that far. We have an O that after 3 games has been out scored by of D in the first half. Where it might not be is fault he has done nothing to help the cause. I don't see RGIII out there leading the team.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1028222]I mean how is it that the redskins get worse after a 10 win season?? It just sucks man, I was really looking forward to this year and it really seems like it's already over[/quote]One important thing to keep in mind: teams that have great continuity from year to year don't have great continuity because they fear changing their starters, they just have a great player development system that promotes players from within right when they are entering their prime.

The Redskins don't have this. They didn't promote even one starter from within between 2012 and 2013. So what they have is the second oldest team in football (after the one that just beat us) thats just hanging on to declining vets because they feel they are limited to replace them only through current year draft picks and free agents (cap space).

So while it was a pretty impressive accomplishment that they were able to keep last year's team together, it also meant they're really struggling to improve the roster on last year.

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I really think the biggest problem right now is the defense. They are just plain awful. I have NEVER seen such poor tackling. It is nearly comically.

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[quote=firstdown;1028227]Don't know if I'd go that far. We have an O that after 3 games has been out scored by of D in the first half. Where it might not be is fault he has done nothing to help the cause. I don't see RGIII out there leading the team.[/quote]The solution is to get better offensive players.

Or score less on defense.

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Our D has given up the most yards in the history of the league after 3 weeks..

How does that even happen???? Good lord

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[quote=GTripp0012;1028228]One important thing to keep in mind: teams that have great continuity from year to year don't have great continuity because they fear changing their starters, they just have a great player development system that promotes players from within right when they are entering their prime.

The Redskins don't have this. They didn't promote even one starter from within between 2012 and 2013. So what they have is the second oldest team in football (after the one that just beat us) thats just hanging on to declining vets because they feel they are limited to replace them only through current year draft picks and free agents (cap space).

So while it was a pretty impressive accomplishment that they were able to keep last year's team together, it also meant they're really struggling to improve the roster on last year.[/quote]

I think alot of that ties back to the cap penalty.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1028228]One important thing to keep in mind: teams that have great continuity from year to year don't have great continuity because they fear changing their starters, they just have a great player development system that promotes players from within right when they are entering their prime.

[B]The Redskins don't have this. They didn't promote even one starter from within between 2012 and 2013. So what they have is the second oldest team in football (after the one that just beat us) thats just hanging on to declining vets because they feel they are limited to replace them only through current year draft picks and free agents (cap space).[/B]

So while it was a pretty impressive accomplishment that they were able to keep last year's team together, it also meant they're really struggling to improve the roster on last year.[/quote]

I think that goes back to the cap hit we took the past two years.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1028226]actually D hall has played OK so far, and sat what u want about him but he gets INTS[/quote]Hall probably had his best game as a Redskin yesterday. And the two outside receivers on the Lions both went for 100 yards.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1028231]Our D has given up the most yards in the history of the league after 3 weeks..

How does that even happen???? Good lord[/quote]

Glass half full: our defense is record-setting!

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Lmao yeah we r just garbage

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1028142]No, it's the [U]historically[/U] bad defense! As long as the defense gives up 500 yards per game, the Skins will struggle to win, no matter what they do on offense or special teams.

conflagration?

The Skins could have won yesterday if the offense could have scored a touchdown. Let's not forget the goal is to score touchdowns which leads to points which leads to having a chance to win. The defense didn't lose the game yesterday. The offense did. That was and is painfully obvious. But the defense stinks yes.

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[quote=firstdown;1028233]I think that goes back to the cap hit we took the past two years.[/quote]Cap penalty or no cap penalty, a football team can choose it's veterans. You're stuck with the young talent you bring in because of rookie contracts and the waivers system, but the veteran market is different. You can always save money by cutting.

If the players in their first three seasons were struggling, and that's why the team was 0-3, you might suggest that the cap penalty was limiting the team from getting enough talent to compete. But the young players who were drafted have been thrust into the lineup almost immediately and have more than held their own.

If you make a list of guys who aren't helping, you get Fletcher and Meriweather near the top, but also Fred Davis, Will Montgomery, Tyler Polumbus, Stephen Bowen, Adam Carriker, and probably Josh Morgan (though I'm feeling more charatable yesterday after AlfMo's TD run). There's just a ton of cap dollars tied up there that have nothing to do with the penalty.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1028174]Sorry but what my eyes tell me isn't right. He got ran down from behind by a DE's a couple times, he threw behind guys, he threw high, low, and a terrible pick...then he makes some great throws, [B]especially the one to Ro[/B]binson. Like everyone else, he needs to play better, but he's getting too much blame, just like last year, he was getting too much credit.[/quote]

Talking about the one he dropped. That pass was under thrown and probably the reason it was dropped.