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[quote=Chico23231;1068567]...Interesting we are not bring in any secondary so far. I would think they would be on the radar.

I still think we go TE now with the first pick, but not hearing about anyone being brought in...[/quote]

We didn't have a visit with Jordan Reed last year, and supposedly barely talked with him at all during the draft process. Who we bring in or don't bring in really means nothing.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/04/16/fan-mailbag-moss-status-hasletts-schemes-and-getting-younger-in-the-draft/]Fan mailbag: Moss’ status, Haslett’s schemes, and getting younger in the draft | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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[quote=SirLK26;1068568]We didn't have a visit with Jordan Reed last year, and supposedly barely talked with him at all during the draft process. Who we bring in or don't bring in really means nothing.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/04/16/fan-mailbag-moss-status-hasletts-schemes-and-getting-younger-in-the-draft/]Fan mailbag: Moss’ status, Haslett’s schemes, and getting younger in the draft | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

Well I dont know that it means nothing. Didnt Rambo, Thomas and Amerson all get visits?

Because we are limited with visits, I think it does show priority, imo.

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[quote=Chico23231;1068567]right, so who you moving on from?

Interesting we are not bring in any secondary so far. I would think they would be on the radar.

I still think we go TE now with the first pick, but not hearing about anyone being brought in...[/quote]

Brought in Tre Boston and Dez Southward

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[quote=Chico23231;1068567]right, so who you moving on from?

Interesting we are not bring in any secondary so far. I would think they would be on the radar.

I still think we go TE now with the first pick, but not hearing about anyone being brought in...[/quote]

I have no idea who will be the OLBs, it all depends on the type of season Orakpo, and Kerrigan have, and what the market is for them. I doubt the Redskins will spend $20 million a year for OLBs

The Redskins showed no interest in Jordan Reed last year, so visits are not the sole indication of who they are interested in. Pre-draft visits etc.. are like a poker game, and no one wants to show their hand.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1068576]Brought in Tre Boston and Dez Southward[/quote]

Thanks ss.

Good to here

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[quote=Chico23231;1068567]right, so who you moving on from?

Interesting we are not bring in any secondary so far. I would think they would be on the radar.

I still think we go TE now with the first pick, but not hearing about anyone being brought in...[/quote]

y do u think TE? I think Reed will be fine

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1068590]y do u think TE? I think Reed will be fine[/quote]

I think one of our 2nd round picks will be TE too

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[quote=SmootSmack;1068591]I think one of our 2nd round picks will be TE too[/quote]

So you pretty sure we getting another 2nd?

I think Gruden gets another TE becuase 1) Reed health is a question mark and 2) Gruden uses more 2 TE sets more than anyone

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[quote=Chico23231;1068592]So you pretty sure we getting another 2nd?

I think Gruden gets another TE becuase 1) Reed health is a question mark and 2) Gruden uses more 2 TE sets more than anyone[/quote]

No idea. Total guess

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Chris Russell says the Redskins love Kyle Van Noy *

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89826&draftyear=2014&genpos=OLB]Kyle Van Noy*|*BYU,*OLB*:*2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

* which means there is no chance they draft him

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[quote=Chico23231;1068592]So you pretty sure we getting another 2nd?

[B]I think Gruden gets another TE becuase 1) Reed health is a question mark and 2) Gruden uses more 2 TE sets more than anyone[/B][/quote]

You nailed it.

I would add that in Cincy, he could not get enough WR and TE talent. They already had Gresham but still drafted Eifert high; they already had AJ Green when they drafted Jones and Sanu.

I think that as long as Gruden is our coach, we will be aggressive in acquiring pass catchers.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1068593]No idea. Total guess[/quote]

I would put serious odds on us trading down at least once in the 2nd round. I think several teams might want to get ahead of the Rams as they could go take nearly any position.

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[quote=Lotus;1068608]You nailed it.

I would add that in Cincy, he could not get enough WR and TE talent. They already had Gresham but still drafted Eifert high; they already had AJ Green when they drafted Jones and Sanu.

I think that as long as Gruden is our coach, we will be aggressive in acquiring pass catchers.[/quote]

Yeah, I mean that's not what I essentially hope. I'd like to see us take a right tackle. I see Morgan Moses name creeping into the first round now.

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Gurden was able to go after Eifert b/c he already had an OL. I really hope he doesn't take a page out of the Chip Kelly book and stubbornly focus on one thing. We need the first pick to be OL or Secondary. Gurden's got pleanty of toys for yr 1, don't need to waste an early pick on another one.

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With the 34th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select: Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
With the 42nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins select: Antonio Richardson OT, Tennessee

Feel free to swap Amaro with Serafin-Jenkins

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1068625]With the 34th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select: Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
With the 42nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins select: Antonio Richardson OT, Tennessee

Feel free to swap Amaro with Serafin-Jenkins[/quote]

I would take this and be very happy.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1068625]With the 34th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select: Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
With the 42nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins select: Antonio Richardson OT, Tennessee

Feel free to swap Amaro with Serafin-Jenkins[/quote]

That would be wicked good for the offense.

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I still say OT, ILB and S are the most pressing needs, not convinced with any of the ILB's signed (they are more like ST players than starting caliber).

Rt, S, CB. Need to nail all three of these in the draft. Eff taking a TE. Run your two te set with Paulsen and Reed. We need more pressing picks than a backup in case Reed gets hurt again.

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1068625]With the 34th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select: Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
With the 42nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins select: Antonio Richardson OT, Tennessee

Feel free to swap Amaro with Serafin-Jenkins[/QUOTE]

How do we have 34 and 42?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1068636]How do we have 34 and 42?[/quote]

That is the speculation after getting compensation for Cousins. My expectation is that we get pick #42, as well as two first rounders -- which we can all agree is a steal for Cousins.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1068494]Those Stanford linemen are road graders![/quote]

To me Stanford is the new Wisconsin in regards to O-Lineman. However David Yankey's scouting reports puzzle me. From what I can see his only knock is that he's average in pass protection, not even bad, just average.

For example heres an excerpt from the Scouts Inc report:

[quote][B]Pass Protection - 3 -[/B] Quickness and length make it tough to beat him clean. Strong and absorbs bull rush without giving too much ground. Long enough to protect edge and fill in at tackle. Better fit on inside. Above average effort and adequate balance when mirroring inside but limited athlete that has problems countering double moves and can get exposed if put on an island at tackle. Top-heavy and vulnerable to pull moves. [/quote] [URL="http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2014dyankey.php"]WalterFootball[/URL]:
[quote]
Reliable pass-protector
Quick to engage
Can handle speed rushers
Can handle heavy tackles
Anchors well against bull rushers
Proper knee bend
Good pad level

[/quote]So why is everyone so quick to have him playing Guard at the next level? Granted he doesn't sound like a premier left tackle prospect but it does sound like he'd be a great fit at Right Tackle for any team that takes him.

[quote=Dirtbag59;1068078]
Not to sound like my cousin you know who but I kind of hope they come away with a viable TE. Not that I don't like Jordan Reed, on the contrary, but I do have concerns about his durability going forward. Hopefully the first year bumps are just him adjusting to the more physical nature of the NFL particularly having to adjust to a 16 game season. Plus I think TE is my favorite position in all of football. I'm the type of guy that would rather have Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates in their prime above even Megatron and Randy Moss.[/quote]

[quote=SmootSmack;1068591]I think one of our 2nd round picks will be TE too[/quote]

Hmmmmmmm, I'm conflicted lol. Honestly though if the front office really was intent on getting a TE I would prefer a mid to late round guy like Jacob Pedersen.

[QUOTE=mbedner3420;1068638]That is the speculation after getting compensation for Cousins. My expectation is that we get pick #42, as well as two first rounders -- which we can all agree is a steal for Cousins.[/QUOTE]


A second and two firsts for Cousins?

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Here Keim analyzes the players which we have brought in for visits on offense:
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7052/analyzing-the-redskins-visits-offense]Analyzing the Redskins visits: Offense - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

And on defense:
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7059/analyzing-the-redskins-visits-defense]Analyzing the Washington Redskins' visits: Defense - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Lotus;1068675]Here Keim analyzes the players which we have brought in for visits on offense:
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7052/analyzing-the-redskins-visits-offense]Analyzing the Redskins visits: Offense - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

And on defense:
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7059/analyzing-the-redskins-visits-defense]Analyzing the Washington Redskins' visits: Defense - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Funny how we are after OLBs. Looks like Rak could be a one year deal

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[quote=punch it in;1068645]A second and two firsts for Cousins?[/quote]

My thoughts exactly.

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[quote=punch it in;1068645]A second and two firsts for Cousins?[/quote]

Yeah, that cant be right.

I just came across an article saying that the Browns had made a trade offer for Cousins that was rejected, I have no idea if that is accurate or not, but if it is, clearly we are not getting good enough offers for him right now to justify a trade. Come draft day though, it might be a different story.

"The Browns have looked into deals for both Ryan Mallett and Kirk Cousins, both of which have been denied."

[url=http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/29192/20140415/sam-bradford-trade-rumors-minnesota-vikings-cleveland-browns-interested-kirk-cousins-ryan-mallett-deals-st-louis-rams-nfl-draft.htm]Sam Bradford Trade Rumors: Minnesota Vikings, Cleveland Browns Interested After Kirk Cousins, Ryan Mallett Deals Denied? St. Louis Rams Move Option Before Draft : US : Sports World Report[/url]

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[quote=Lotus;1068675]Here Keim analyzes the players which we have brought in for visits on offense:
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7052/analyzing-the-redskins-visits-offense]Analyzing the Redskins visits: Offense - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

And on defense:
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7059/analyzing-the-redskins-visits-defense]Analyzing the Washington Redskins' visits: Defense - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I can't believe I thought that David Yankey was the one visiting when it was in fact Cameron Fleming.

FWIW in regards to Antonio "Tiny" Richardson (T Tenn) I read this in USA Today

[quote]"Richardson had problems with speed rushers, but he is massive and could have the strongest upper body of tackle prospects." [/quote]

However as of right now I'm starting to think we'd be better off trying to trade late into the first to secure Morgan Moses. If Cyrus Kouandjio had a clean bill of health then I'd more content to let the chips fall but the last thing we need at this point is more guys who can't stay healthy.

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[QUOTE=WillH;1068689]Yeah, that cant be right.

I just came across an article saying that the Browns had made a trade offer for Cousins that was rejected, I have no idea if that is accurate or not, but if it is, clearly we are not getting good enough offers for him right now to justify a trade. Come draft day though, it might be a different story.

"The Browns have looked into deals for both Ryan Mallett and Kirk Cousins, both of which have been denied."

[url=http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/29192/20140415/sam-bradford-trade-rumors-minnesota-vikings-cleveland-browns-interested-kirk-cousins-ryan-mallett-deals-st-louis-rams-nfl-draft.htm]Sam Bradford Trade Rumors: Minnesota Vikings, Cleveland Browns Interested After Kirk Cousins, Ryan Mallett Deals Denied? St. Louis Rams Move Option Before Draft : US : Sports World Report[/url][/QUOTE]


We would be extremely furtunate to get a second rounder for Cousins. Extremely fortunate. We would be just fortunate to get a third rounder.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1068683]My thoughts exactly.[/quote]

Pretty sure he was joking.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1068696]Pretty sure he was joking.[/QUOTE]


I was very much hoping so, but it seemed so damn serious and the sarcasm meter was not low it was completely turned off?
Edit: because the 42nd pick thing is a possibility. I thought maybe he had inside info that the team willing to give that up was privy only to the cleveland game tape from two years ago.

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If I'm St Louis I unload Bradford and grab Manziel.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1068724]If I'm St Louis I unload Bradford and grab Manziel.[/quote]

Really?

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I would look at getting a QB if I was Stl.

I don't think I would go after manziel, and they would have a problem trAding qb making 17mil coming off an acl injury.

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[quote=Lotus;1068725]Really?[/quote]

Yeah, if this was last years draft than maybe I could understand the appeal but Bradford showed more than enough last year talent wise to establish that its way too early to give up on him.

Had it not been for the injury we could have been talking about the first Rams Pro Bowler at QB since Bulger in 2006. Of course he could have taken a nose dive a la 2008 Jason Campbell but I think the consensus on Bradford at this point is that he's for real. So long as he stays healthy he'll earn his keep.

Regardless I don't think Manziel is the can't miss type of prospect where you introduce an updated version of Rivers vs Brees (who sucked in 2003). Worse comes to worse they can hope for the best among [URL="http://youtu.be/D_p1oPOiRKw"]Kevin Hogan[/URL] (Stanford), [URL="http://youtu.be/B2-DR-NfhUw"]Bryce Petty[/URL] (Baylor), and [URL="http://youtu.be/dVsUtip_0bE"]Conner Cook [/URL](Michigan State) in next years draft should Bradford ultimately prove to be a bust.

Besides its not like the Rams options at QB going into this year are John Beck and Rex Grossman.

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I think manziel is the next roger staubach.
And i think bradford is the next....bradford.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1068696]Pretty sure he was joking.[/quote]

Indeed.

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1068724]If I'm St Louis I unload Bradford and grab Manziel.[/QUOTE]


They will not do this, but I agree. I think Manziel is going to be really good.

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Round 2 - Morgan Moses OT UVA 6-6 314

Round 3 - Gabe Jackson OG MS St 6-3 336

Round 4 - Ed Reynolds FS Stanford 6-1 207

Round 5 - Max Bullough ILB MSU 6-4 249

Round 6 - De'Anthony Thomas RB OR 5-9 174

Round 7 - Pat O'Donnell P Miami 6-4 220

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1068852]Round 2 - Morgan Moses OT UVA 6-6 314



Round 3 - Gabe Jackson OG MS St 6-3 336



Round 4 - Ed Reynolds FS Stanford 6-1 207



Round 5 - Max Bullough ILB MSU 6-4 249



Round 6 - De'Anthony Thomas RB OR 5-9 174



Round 7 - Pat O'Donnell P Miami 6-4 220[/QUOTE]


O'Donnell is a freak athlete for a punter. Wouldnt mind spending a 7th on this guy at all
Edit: he is Also a good punter.
I have seen him use that vertical leap to make a high catch on a bad snap more than once. Seen him use that 4-6 speed to make a play more than once too.