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[quote=T.O.Killa;1047612]Yes, see if Brady, Breeze, Eli, Payton, Matt, Rivers, or Rodgers ever said the stupid things our QB has. For that matter Jason Campbell, all the horrible thing he went through and never did he compromise his team. RG3 has the talent and Campbell had the mentality. I hope against hope, that sitting RG3 will help him realize that a franchise qb always puts everyone ahead of himself. He tells his father never treat me like a baby and keep your mouth shut. He stands by his team and his coach no matter what. The rest will take care of itself. A coaches record will dictate whether he stays or goes. I have listened to every former gm on the radio and TV and they all say they are shocked at the things that RG3 has done since he got hurt. Anyone failing to recognize that is in denial.[/quote]

Ah yes, those paragons of virtue ... Tom "Temper Tantrum" Brady, Eli "Trade Me Or My Daddy Will Beat You Up" Manning, Phillip "I Will Taunt Opposing Teams 'Cause I Can" Rivers and Aaron "Discount Double Check" Rogers. No distractions (particularly in their early years) there.

Stick by their coach? The opportunities for RGIII to throw MS under the bus have been both obvious and numerous. The assertion he has not "stuck by a coach" who has ignored his input on play calling, leaked stories critical of him and now talks of benching him for his safety after playing him against one of the top defenses on a slick snowy field is ignorant. RGIII could have very easily pulled a McNabb but, instead, rebuked McNabb and his weasely ways. Basically, RGIII has kept his mouth shut and tried to say the right things when called out. At the same time, he's not a f'ing robot. He's 23 dealing with sudden fame and adoration. For the most part, when he HAS had something to say, you hear it from him and not from some anonymous "leak".

I am sure you, in all your perfection, would have handled the immediate fame and intense scrutiny so much better (which none of the listed QB's, other than the Mannings, had to deal with - and Eli, BTW, caught tons of sh** early for having a bad, sulky attitude). I, on the other hand, remember 23 and am constantly amazed that I didn't torpedo my life with some of the dumb things I did and said back then.

Former GM's are shocked by what he has done? Like what? Work hard to come back by opening day? Do a commercial or two? A documentary (which, when shot, included Luck but he got cut 'cause he's got the charisma of damp rice). Sorry, every GM I have heard has said "it's a tough situation and he needs to learn and mature." Wow. ... now that's some inciteful sh**.

The wheels are coming off the bus and, quite recently, it is MS, not RGIII, who is showing the complete lack of character and willingness to throw anyone and everyone under the bus.

If you can't see that RGIII is a young guy with solid character trying to navigate a difficult situation brought on by instant fame, you, sir, are at "Denial: Boss Level".

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Chico23231;1047629]So question to everybody: Did Shanny purposely make up that story and leak it? And the motivation is too..?[/quote]

I think a lot of the "drama" around Washington has been because Shanahan leaked it. Not all of it, but I think he did it to potentially get another job since someone would believe it wasn't his fault.

In the end he failed as a coach, a gm, and every other possible way you can.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Chico23231;1047629]So question to everybody: Did Shanny purposely make up that story and leak it? And the motivation is too..?[/quote]

Well he did say there are partial truths to everything. And he didn't flat out deny the report, that's his usual MO if something isn't kosher with him.

The motivation is to piss off the owner and get fired, and most importantly save his reputation in the process. Toss the blame on Snyder and RG3.

And in the end where else would the story have come from?

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/10/snyder-shanahan-playing-high-stakes-game-of-chicken/]Snyder, Shanahan playing high-stakes game of chicken | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Mattyk;1047636]Well he did say there are partial truths to everything. And he didn't flat out deny the report, that's his usual MO if something isn't kosher with him.

The motivation is to piss off the owner and get fired, and most importantly save his reputation in the process. Toss the blame on Snyder and RG3.

And in the end where else would the story have come from?[/quote]

Yeah I dont know, it just seems so typical of the skins. an effing cirus. this is exactly what i wouldnt expect from Shanny. I wouldnt think he would lie like this...i dont know, its disappointing.

I think maybe we should grant Shanny wish, but I dont think Dan will play that without checking with his lawyers on the show cause deal.

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[quote=Chico23231;1047641]Yeah I dont know, it just seems so typical of the skins. an effing cirus. this is exactly what i wouldnt expect from Shanny. I wouldnt think he would lie like this...i dont know, its disappointing.

I think maybe we should grant Shanny wish, but I dont think Dan will play that without checking with his lawyers on the show cause deal.[/quote]

He earned his "rat" nickname for good reason, and it's not just due to his weasel like appearance.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1047637][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/10/snyder-shanahan-playing-high-stakes-game-of-chicken/]Snyder, Shanahan playing high-stakes game of chicken | ProFootballTalk[/url][/QUOTE]

Embarrassing

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This whole situation is so unbelievable. Just when you think it couldn't be more of a circus, more clowns pile out of the clown car. I can't wait for this season to be over with so we just start fresh.

[QUOTE=mbedner3420;1047644]This whole situation is so unbelievable. Just when you think it couldn't be more of a circus, more clowns pile out of the clown car. I can't wait for this season to be over with so we just start fresh.[/QUOTE]

Man honestly I'm at the point of not even caring anymore, if we hire a great staff And start winning that will be great but in all reality I don't see us winning under Dan, hate to say it but look at the facts since he's been the owner , I don't dislike the guy but he's obviously not a good football guy , I'll be a fan of the team but I'm starting to not really care as much anymore

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Ouch

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 10m
In my opinion, if Redskins were going to protect RG3 future and hold him out of 3 games, it should have been first three, not these last 3

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1047630]Jason Campbell was too busy compromising himself on the field.[/quote]

And with one swing, D Rave with the knockout punch

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/3744/quick-takes-shanahan-and-rg-iii?src=mobile]Quick Takes: Mike Shanahan and Robert Griffin III - ESPN[/url]

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1047645]Man honestly I'm at the point of not even caring anymore, if we hire a great staff And start winning that will be great but in all reality I don't see us winning under Dan, hate to say it but look at the facts since he's been the owner , I don't dislike the guy but he's obviously not a good football guy , I'll be a fan of the team but I'm starting to not really care as much anymore[/quote]

You've got to wonder how concerned the front office is with general fan apathy. The fact that 2/3 of the stadium was empty on Sunday had to be a massive wake up call for them. Even though they made money on Sunday, you have to assume Snyder and the rest of the business management team took it as a loss in revenue.

Ultimately, I think a lot of fans feel the same way you do, which is why they need to turn it around quickly and make some decent moves both with the FO and the coaching staff for 2014.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1047650][B]You've got to wonder how concerned the front office is with general fan apathy. The fact that 2/3 of the stadium was empty on Sunday had to be a massive wake up call for them.[/B] Even though they made money on Sunday, you have to assume Snyder and the rest of the business management team took it as a loss in revenue.

Ultimately, I think a lot of fans feel the same way you do, which is why they need to turn it around quickly and make some decent moves both with the FO and the coaching staff for 2014.[/quote]It will be even more telling if there are a ton of no-shows for the home finale against Dallas, and even more so if Dallas fans outnumber Washington fans, which isn't entirely out of the question.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/12/9/5191564/must-read-mike-shanahans-brilliant-last-act-by-kc-clyburn]MUST READ: Mike Shanahan’s Brilliant Last Act by KC Clyburn - Hogs Haven[/url]

Good read on how we, as fans, were led off like lambs to the slaughter. We got duped, ya'll.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1047656][url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/12/9/5191564/must-read-mike-shanahans-brilliant-last-act-by-kc-clyburn]MUST READ: Mike Shanahan’s Brilliant Last Act by KC Clyburn - Hogs Haven[/url]

Good read on how we, as fans, were led off like lambs to the slaughter. We got duped, ya'll.[/quote]

It's called retirement money, Shanahan found a sucker.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1047656][url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/12/9/5191564/must-read-mike-shanahans-brilliant-last-act-by-kc-clyburn]MUST READ: Mike Shanahan’s Brilliant Last Act by KC Clyburn - Hogs Haven[/url]

Good read on how we, as fans, were led off like lambs to the slaughter. We got duped, ya'll.[/quote]

good read. it sux, but good read

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1047654]It will be even more telling if there are a ton of no-shows for the home finale against Dallas, and even more so if Dallas fans outnumber Washington fans, which isn't entirely out of the question.[/quote]

For sure. I fully expect Cowboy fans to outnumber skins fans.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Chico23231;1047641]Yeah I dont know, it just seems so typical of the skins. an effing cirus. this is exactly what i wouldnt expect from Shanny. I wouldnt think he would lie like this...i dont know, its disappointing.

I think maybe we should grant Shanny wish, but I dont think Dan will play that without checking with his lawyers on the show cause deal.[/quote]I feel like Shanahan lied a lot about his motives and intentions to the Denver media as well, and that was before he got here. I get that he commands respect from players, but I was not at any point under the impression that the Redskins were hiring a character guy in Shanahan. I had hoped they were hiring a winner, that was obviously not the case.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1047656][url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/12/9/5191564/must-read-mike-shanahans-brilliant-last-act-by-kc-clyburn]MUST READ: Mike Shanahan’s Brilliant Last Act by KC Clyburn - Hogs Haven[/url]

Good read on how we, as fans, were led off like lambs to the slaughter. We got duped, ya'll.[/quote]

Nice article. Any Redskins fans who still believe in Shanahan need to read this.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1047647]And with one swing, D Rave with the knockout punch[/quote]
Yes thats a knock out punch. If you are in a state of denial. RG has done tons of compromising on the field.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1047785]Yes thats a knock out punch. If you are in a state of denial. RG has done tons of compromising on the field.[/quote]

Lol. Man idk if RG3 banged your wife or what, but let it go.

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I guess the Shanny propaganda has worked on some.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1047656][url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/12/9/5191564/must-read-mike-shanahans-brilliant-last-act-by-kc-clyburn]MUST READ: Mike Shanahan’s Brilliant Last Act by KC Clyburn - Hogs Haven[/url]

Good read on how we, as fans, were led off like lambs to the slaughter. We got duped, ya'll.[/quote]

McNabb humiliated himself and proved Shanny right when he further humiliated himself in MN.

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McNabb's dislike for Shanahan makes sense now, but yeah McNabb also proved Shanny right by flaming out in Minny too. They were both right on each other.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Mattyk;1047799]McNabb's dislike for Shanahan makes sense now, but yeah McNabb also proved Shanny right by flaming out in Minny too. They were both right on each other.[/quote]

McNabb being right is perhaps the worst part about this whole situation (among being lied to and whatnot, obviously). I just really can't stand that guy, even when he was here, I never really felt like he was a Redskin.

[QUOTE=mooby;1047788]Lol. Man idk if RG3 banged your wife or what, but let it go.[/QUOTE]

Idk but I'd like to bang RG3S wife that's for sure lol

[QUOTE=mbedner3420;1047667]For sure. I fully expect Cowboy fans to outnumber skins fans.[/QUOTE]

If I'm a skins fan y go?? Dallas wins that game easy

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047806]Idk but I'd like to bang RG3S wife that's for sure lol[/quote]

count me in too

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Good insight from Cooley

[url=http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=10113908&ex_cid=espnapi_public]Chris Cooley, NFL - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=mooby;1047788]Lol. Man idk if RG3 banged your wife or what, but let it go.[/quote]

I think SonnyTD must be using his alternate account.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1047785]Yes thats a knock out punch. If you are in a state of denial. RG has done tons of compromising on the field.[/quote]

You taking a shot at me? Whatever

You taking a shot at DRave? Gets to steppin

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[quote=mooby;1047788]Lol. Man idk if RG3 banged your wife or what, but let it go.[/quote]



That's excellent

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[quote=Mattyk;1047814]Good insight from Cooley

[URL="http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=10113908&ex_cid=espnapi_public"]Chris Cooley, NFL - ESPN[/URL][/quote]



Cooley sounds hung over. Probably is lol.

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This whole thing has jumped the shark, Sally Jenkins has weighed in..

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/washington-redskins-are-being-undermined-by-dan-snyders-corrosive-star-culture/2013/12/10/1f1af434-61d4-11e3-94ad-004fefa61ee6_story.html]Washington Redskins are being undermined by Dan Snyder’s corrosive star culture - The Washington Post[/url]

Most Salliest quote: "But if Snyder has truly matured and wants to do what’s right for the organization, he will de-escalate this management crisis even further, by giving Shanahan a vote of confidence and another year. "

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[quote=Paintrain;1047872]This whole thing has jumped the shark, Sally Jenkins has weighed in..

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/washington-redskins-are-being-undermined-by-dan-snyders-corrosive-star-culture/2013/12/10/1f1af434-61d4-11e3-94ad-004fefa61ee6_story.html]Washington Redskins are being undermined by Dan Snyder’s corrosive star culture - The Washington Post[/url]

Most Salliest quote: "But if Snyder has truly matured and wants to do what’s right for the organization, he will de-escalate this management crisis even further, by giving Shanahan a vote of confidence and another year. "[/quote]

She is just the worst. I swear she gets the tinglies every time the Redskins start falling apart.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1047873]She is just the worst. I swear she gets the tinglies every time the Redskins start falling apart.[/quote]

If you suffer from chronic vaginitis you would be bitter. Her, Wise and Feinstein hate Snyder, fuck those 3.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Paintrain;1047872]This whole thing has jumped the shark, Sally Jenkins has weighed in..

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/washington-redskins-are-being-undermined-by-dan-snyders-corrosive-star-culture/2013/12/10/1f1af434-61d4-11e3-94ad-004fefa61ee6_story.html]Washington Redskins are being undermined by Dan Snyder’s corrosive star culture - The Washington Post[/url]

Most Salliest quote: "But if Snyder has truly matured and wants to do what’s right for the organization, he will de-escalate this management crisis even further, by giving Shanahan a vote of confidence and another year. "[/quote]

That whole thing sounds like it was written by Mike Shanahan. Another round on the "pity is me Mike S. farewell tour." My motto for the next 3 weeks is,"come on, only (x) more weeks. Almost there!"

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1047883]If you suffer from chronic vaginitis you would be bitter. Her, Wise and Feinstein hate Snyder, fuck those 3.[/quote]

Sally born in Forth Worth, TX
Wise and Feinstein are from New York

of course they want to see the Redskins fail.

The fact that anyone can defend Synder floors me. We are the most delusional fans on earth. Can't wait for pitchers and catchers.


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