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redskins5044 12-17-2013 09:37 PM

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Watch the Football life on Marty and you can see why he fired him. He rode Darrell Green hard and Synder wasn't having it. Damn if he stayed what would have been, prob no championships but would have been built and had talent.

skinsfaninok 12-17-2013 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=redskins5044;1049945]Watch the Football life on Marty and you can see why he fired him. He rode Darrell Green hard and Synder wasn't having it. Damn if he stayed what would have been, prob no championships but would have been built and had talent.[/QUOTE]

Damn good talent guy

SFREDSKIN 12-17-2013 10:13 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=redskins5044;1049945]Watch the Football life on Marty and you can see why he fired him. He rode Darrell Green hard and Synder wasn't having it. Damn if he stayed what would have been, prob no championships but would have been built and had talent.[/quote]

Over rated blowhard notorious for great season records and shitty playoff records, way too conservative and he would probably hire his son as OC. No thanks.

SFREDSKIN 12-17-2013 10:14 PM

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Anyone on this forum write this article? [url=http://proplayerinsiders.com/tgifootball-eight-possible-head-coaching-candidates-washington-redskins/]Washington Redskins: 8 Possible Head Coaching Candidates[/url]

skinsfaninok 12-17-2013 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1049952]Anyone on this forum write this article? [url=http://proplayerinsiders.com/tgifootball-eight-possible-head-coaching-candidates-washington-redskins/]Washington Redskins: 8 Possible Head Coaching Candidates[/url][/QUOTE]

Idk.but we've discussed all of these guys

redskins5044 12-17-2013 10:40 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1049950]Over rated blowhard notorious for great season records and shitty playoff records, way too conservative and he would probably hire his son as OC. No thanks.[/quote]

I would trade that for what he have had over the last two decades.

SFREDSKIN 12-17-2013 10:45 PM

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[quote=redskins5044;1049960]I would trade that for what he have had over the last two decades.[/quote]

I don't know, my heart would be full of holes from all the heartbreaks, just ask the Browns, Chargers and Chief fans.

skinsfaninok 12-17-2013 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=redskins5044;1049960]I would trade that for what he have had over the last two decades.[/QUOTE]

Yep I'd rather be a winning "loser" than just a flat out loser like we have

SkinzWin 12-18-2013 10:59 AM

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I personally voted for mike Shanahan. I didn't see a majority of people crapping on Shanny last year and saying he needed to go when we were winning the division. So many people's perceptions turn on a dime based on record. I think some of our coordinators need to go but keep Mike and see how we do next year.

I honestly believe if we would not have been screwed by the 16 mil cap hit which prevented us from filling in holes in the off season and Roberts injury which obviously hampered his play this year, we would be fighting for the division lead right now. I always have taken the Pat Kurwin approach to continuity and consistency with coaches. Everyone is always so eager to blow things up and find a new coach every 2nd or 3rd year. For what? So that we have another couple years for them to bring in the coaches and players he wants? So he can install a new system that means huge roster changed are needed to get the skills sets needed for that type of scheme?

I get sick and tired of hitting the repeat button with coaches on this team. Vinny is gone. We need stability not turnover on this team. We had built something good last year and I believe this year was a road bump, not last year being an aberration. Many of you don't like how Shanny operates. I get that. I don't like everything he does either. But the man has a pedigree as an established winning coach. You want a young inexperienced HC to come to this team and expect him to put the pieces together right away? I doubt it.

If Dan has really changed I think changes will be made to the coordinators, as stated previously by Kyle reportedly not coming back, but give Shanny another year. If we suck next year he will be gone. But I don't think we will. I think we will be right back in the hunt next year.

SmootSmack 12-18-2013 11:21 AM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1050025]I personally voted for mike Shanahan. I didn't see a majority of people crapping on Shanny last year and saying he needed to go when we were winning the division. So many people's perceptions turn on a dime based on record. I think some of our coordinators need to go but keep Mike and see how we do next year.

I honestly believe if we would not have been screwed by the 16 mil cap hit which prevented us from filling in holes in the off season and Roberts injury which obviously hampered his play this year, we would be fighting for the division lead right now. I always have taken the Pat Kurwin approach to continuity and consistency with coaches. Everyone is always so eager to blow things up and find a new coach every 2nd or 3rd year. For what? So that we have another couple years for them to bring in the coaches and players he wants? So he can install a new system that means huge roster changed are needed to get the skills sets needed for that type of scheme?

I get sick and tired of hitting the repeat button with coaches on this team. Vinny is gone. We need stability not turnover on this team. We had built something good last year and I believe this year was a road bump, not last year being an aberration. Many of you don't like how Shanny operates. I get that. I don't like everything he does either. But the man has a pedigree as an established winning coach. You want a young inexperienced HC to come to this team and expect him to put the pieces together right away? I doubt it.

If Dan has really changed I think changes will be made to the coordinators, as stated previously by Kyle reportedly not coming back, but give Shanny another year. If we suck next year he will be gone. But I don't think we will. I think we will be right back in the hunt next year.[/quote]

Do you give him an extension? Because if not it's pointless to bring him back and get rid of his staff

donofriose 12-18-2013 11:32 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1050027]Do you give him an extension? Because if not it's pointless to bring him back and get rid of his staff[/quote]

I think that is an important point people are forgetting. You can't just have him come back for a year. You have to give him an extension otherwise no good coordinator with any sense will want to come here and the players will see the writing on the wall.

So its either another coach, or Shanahan with an extension.

Chico23231 12-18-2013 11:42 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1050027]Do you give him an extension? Because if not it's pointless to bring him back and get rid of his staff[/quote]

exactly

BigHairedAristocrat 12-18-2013 03:42 PM

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I would extend Shanahan, hire kubiak as OC, have cousins and rg3 compete in camp, start the winner and trade the other for as much as I could get.

Chico23231 12-18-2013 03:52 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1050092]I would extend Shanahan, hire kubiak as OC, have cousins and rg3 compete in camp, start the winner and trade the other for as much as I could get.[/quote]

I would box snyder's head if he did that.

HailGreen28 12-18-2013 03:56 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1050027]Do you give him an extension? Because if not it's pointless to bring him back and get rid of his staff[/quote]let shanny come back one more year playoffs or bust.

SmootSmack 12-18-2013 04:06 PM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1050100]let shanny come back one more year playoffs or bust.[/quote]

Shanahan and everyone else?

jamf 12-18-2013 04:10 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1050027]Do you give him an extension? Because if not it's pointless to bring him back and get rid of his staff[/quote]

More importantly, do we want a one year "lets give him another shot" coach to rebuild the roster?

The Redskins are going to have $40Mil to spend this offseason. I don't want a short term coach to sign players to long term contracts.

HailGreen28 12-18-2013 08:36 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1050104]Shanahan and everyone else?[/quote]I've wanted Haslett gone maybe since year one of the Shanny regime. OTOH, I wanted Danny Smith gone too, and whether he's actually bad or not, letting him go didn't work out for us.

I hate to hear all these rumors about Kyle, I wouldn't let him go unless he really was a problem ego-wise. Our offense is pretty good when we have a healthy QB!

MTK 12-18-2013 08:39 PM

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Pretty obvious to me a clean break is in order.

I just can't imagine Shanny coming back.

Too many bridges have already been torched.

SkinzWin 12-18-2013 09:20 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1050027]Do you give him an extension? Because if not it's pointless to bring him back and get rid of his staff[/quote]

You give him an extension if the team shows improvement. I understand the argument you don't want a coach who may not come back making big decisions with players who will have long lasting impacts on the team. That being said. Is that any different than the carousel of coaches that we went through during vinny's reign? Not really.

And maybe I'm not paying attention but exactly what bridges has Shanny burned? For all we know Shanny and Dan are on the same page with what we are doing. As far as I'm concerned, a majority of the issues with this team with Shanny are perpetrated by the media.

I just think the coordinators need to change bc they aren't being as effective as they need to be. Burn's unit is deplorable. I think Haslett needs to go but people wouldn't be complaining if we had had the 40 mil to put into the secondary.

redskins5044 12-18-2013 09:26 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1050145]You give him an extension if the team shows improvement. I understand the argument you don't want a coach who may not come back making big decisions with players who will have long lasting impacts on the team. That being said. Is that any different than the carousel of coaches that we went through during vinny's reign? Not really.

And maybe I'm not paying attention but exactly what bridges has Shanny burned? For all we know Shanny and Dan are on the same page with what we are doing. As far as I'm concerned, a majority of the issues with this team with Shanny are perpetrated by the media.

I just think the coordinators need to change bc they aren't being as effective as they need to be. Burn's unit is deplorable. I think Haslett needs to go but people wouldn't be complaining if we had had the 40 mil to put into the secondary.[/quote]

If Shanny and Dan are on the same page then he should get an extension immediately after the season. Like it was stated earlier, if not then no coordinators that are worth a crap are going to come here with a HC with only year deal. So its either Shanny for more than just next year or move on now.

REDSKINS4ever 12-19-2013 04:22 AM

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Darrell Bevell

Monkeydad 12-19-2013 01:24 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1050092]I would extend Shanahan, hire kubiak as OC, have cousins and rg3 compete in camp, start the winner and trade the other for as much as I could get.[/quote]

Sounds like Jerry Jones is running your thoughts.

Bucket 12-21-2013 01:12 AM

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Danny Smith should be on that list.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-21-2013 01:34 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1050138]Pretty obvious to me a clean break is in order.

I just can't imagine Shanny coming back.

Too many bridges have already been torched.[/quote]

The same argument could be made for rg3. He's a cancer. I want him gone.

GTripp0012 12-21-2013 01:47 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1050406]The same argument could be made for rg3. He's a cancer. I want him gone.[/quote]Being a fan means that you can like or dislike whoever you want, but I'm going to point out that there's zero objective basis for the way you feel. Behind the anger, there is no substance for thinking that way.

You're not wrong to be emotional fan guy, but you are taking a strong, unpopular position with no upside.

MTK 12-21-2013 02:52 AM

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1050406]The same argument could be made for rg3. He's a cancer. I want him gone.[/QUOTE]


Hilarious

Chico23231 12-21-2013 07:53 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1050406]The same argument could be made for rg3. He's a cancer. I want him gone.[/quote]

Im figuring you closed the bar the down last night and Im gonna leave it at that.

Jayroc24 12-22-2013 11:34 AM

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Keep Shannahan as HC
Kubiack as OC
Wade Phillips as DC
Best available ST coach money can buy!!!!!

I would be good with this scenario for next year.

skinsfaninok 12-22-2013 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=Jayroc24;1050482]Keep Shannahan as HC
Kubiack as OC
Wade Phillips as DC
Best available ST coach money can buy!!!!!

I would be good with this scenario for next year.[/QUOTE]

So basically the Texans staff? ..... Yeah no thx

MTK 12-22-2013 12:07 PM

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Kubiak as OC is a bad idea.

Do we really want to go from the coach's son to a good buddy? Yeah that will solve all the tension between Mike and RG.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-22-2013 12:54 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1050408]Hilarious[/quote]

Stupid is more like it.

Chico23231 12-22-2013 01:50 PM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1050170]Darrell Bevell[/quote]

I want him as head coach and Rex Ryan dc.

VTSkins1961 12-22-2013 03:34 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=Jayroc24;1050482]Keep Shannahan as HC
Kubiack as OC
Wade Phillips as DC
Best available ST coach money can buy!!!!!

I would be good with this scenario for next year.[/quote]

Negative. RG3 and Shanny is not a good fit. Shanny must go

wordsmithgk 12-22-2013 04:24 PM

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I like the idea of morrocco brown as gm and darrell bevel as coach

The Goat 12-22-2013 05:04 PM

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If we're keeping Shanny till the end of the season simply to avoid the questions of who runs TE offense till then, we'll ok. But for the sake of all that's decent he has to go the second out season ends. I've never seen such sloppy play, undisciplined, unprepared and totally unworthy of pro football standards. Shanny and HIS team are an embarrassment to the league. I can't imagine any franchise wanting a Shanahan on the payroll, but I'm praying Snyder has finally seen the light.

GTripp0012 12-22-2013 05:33 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=The Goat;1050756]If we're keeping Shanny till the end of the season simply to avoid the questions of who runs TE offense till then, we'll ok. But for the sake of all that's decent he has to go the second out season ends. I've never seen such sloppy play, undisciplined, unprepared and totally unworthy of pro football standards. Shanny and HIS team are an embarrassment to the league. I can't imagine any franchise wanting a Shanahan on the payroll, but I'm praying Snyder has finally seen the light.[/quote]Shanahan is toast. Even if the Redskins go out and beat the Giants by three TDs next week, he's still dead man walking.

You also don't have to worry about the Redskins beating anyone by three TDs.

He made a desperation nothing-to-lose power play in Week 15 to try to change some minds, and then he lost to two of the weakest teams on this years schedule. He's toast.

SFREDSKIN 12-22-2013 07:03 PM

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[quote=wordsmithgk;1050729]I like the idea of morrocco brown as gm and darrell bevel as coach[/quote]

I like this too, but Danny should fire up Redskins one load a Brinks safe, fly to Palo Alto, CA and offer David Shaw an offer he can't refuse. Shaw to me is a can't miss coach.

skinsfaninok 12-22-2013 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1050807]I like this too, but Danny should fire up Redskins one load a Brinks safe, fly to Palo Alto, CA and offer David Shaw an offer he can't refuse. Shaw to me is a can't miss coach.[/QUOTE]

Shaw is my number one choice, yeah people say he's boring on O but so was Jim Harbaugh and look what he has done and is it true that he's going.to Texas?? Word here is they r really going after Jim

SFREDSKIN 12-22-2013 07:26 PM

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Jim is not going to Texas, he's getting an extension. I like Todd Bowles as a darkhorse candidate, love his aggressive D style like his mentor Petitbone.


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