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His jersey will never get that dirty. Good to see him rock an uno. Make that happen!

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No wide receiver can wear numbers 1 - 9.

Fight the power! Anyone know why? Couldn't he be listed as ST and swerve the rule that way?

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[quote=RedskinRat;1067214]Fight the power! Anyone know why? Couldn't he be listed as ST and swerve the rule that way?

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There are loopholes, to be sure

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we could list him as a QB and just line him up wide every play, cause... why not?

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Roberts, Garcon and Jackson are our starters. Any other WR on the roster has to play special teams.
Moss is dangerous returning punts and provides leadership.
I don't see Hank or Robinson making the team unless they are able to find a way to make plays on ST.

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[quote=jamf;1067242]Roberts, Garcon and Jackson are our starters. Any other WR on the roster has to play special teams.
Moss is dangerous returning punts and provides leadership.
I don't see Hank or Robinson making the team unless they are able to find a way to make plays on ST.[/quote]

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[QUOTE=jamf;1067242]Roberts, Garcon and Jackson are our starters. Any other WR on the roster has to play special teams.

Moss is dangerous returning punts and provides leadership.

I don't see Hank or Robinson making the team unless they are able to find a way to make plays on ST.[/QUOTE]


Hank will definitely make the team whether he plays ST or not imo.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1067192]For all those people who keep mindlessly saying that the D.Jax signing is "just like the old Redskins", had the team given up draft picks to pick up Sproles, that would have been an "old Redskins" move.[/QUOTE]


Agreed. I just think it is crazy that after the DJax signing someone out there is upset that we didnt get Sproles too. Lol. Like Matty said - realistic in Madden not in real life.
Edit: Skinsguy maybe it was your friend that called in?

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[quote=jamf;1067242]Roberts, Garcon and Jackson are our starters. Any other WR on the roster has to play special teams.
Moss is dangerous returning punts and provides leadership.
I don't see Hank or Robinson making the team unless they are able to find a way to make plays on ST.[/quote]

I know 1 thing we will need some WR to play special teams . I think the 4th or 5th WR will have to contribute on special teams. Made that comment on a prior post

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If Gettis can prove to stay healthy i think he will be the surprise to over take hank and AR. His rookie year he really played well and outshined brandon lafell who was a higher draft pick that year and earned the starting job over him. He has the size we're looking for with track speed as well.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/6691/leftover-thoughts-desean-jackson?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Leftover thoughts: DeSean Jackson - ESPN[/url]

Nice read.

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[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2014/04/03/kirk-cousins-switches-back-to-trusty-no-8/]The Redskins Blog | Kirk Cousins Switches Back To Trusty No. 8[/url]

I think the # situation as been solved.

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I dont think AR nor Hank are going anywhere

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I think eventually I will buy a D. Jax jersey, at my job there's an shegles fan, we haven't spoke about this yet, I'm waiting for TC to start.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1067287]I dont think AR nor Hank are going anywhere[/quote]

I don't think so either. Both are young and have their positives.

Moss meanwhile is old and barely hanging on. The writing is on the wall for him, he needs to have an outstanding summer and then some to have a shot.

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[quote=jamf;1067242]Roberts, Garcon and Jackson are our starters. Any other WR on the roster has to play special teams.
[B]Moss is dangerous returning punts[/B] and provides leadership.
I don't see Hank or Robinson making the team unless they are able to find a way to make plays on ST.[/quote]

I love Moss but our punt return yardage among other special teams numbers were worst in league last year (in history for that matter). I do agree on leadership aspects and he could also provide depth.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/03/desean-jackson-will-wear-no-11-with-redskins/]DeSean Jackson will wear No. 11 with Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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If Aldrick could improve at kickoff returns, he could really help his stock and the team's.

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[quote=Lotus;1067294]If Aldrick could improve at kickoff returns, he could really help his stock and the team's.[/quote]

I think he needs to learn to hold on to the ball.

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what are you guys smoking? why would hank or robinson not make the team? are we only keeping 3 WRs this year? who else has been in here that's looked better than them for spots 4/5/6, cause i sure don't remember seeing them.

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[quote=That Guy;1067298]what are you guys smoking? why would hank or robinson not make the team? are we only keeping 3 WRs this year? who else has been in here that's looked better than them for spots 4/5/6, cause i sure don't remember seeing them.[/quote]

At least one late WR will be drafted, and neither Hank nor Robinson are big ST players, which WR's 4 and 5 should be. If either one improves at ST, then keep them, otherwise, our receivers are 1- Garcon, 2-DJax, 3-Roberts, 4-Moss, 5/6 new WR's not yet named that will be groomed.

My rationale (and I hope Gruden's):
Signing DJax and Roberts locks down spots 1-3 for 2 years barring injury.

Hankerson's ceiling is pretty much established. If he was going to do anything he would have done it by now. He certainly isn't going to suddenly become better than 1-3. He costs $660K against the cap. Even if he had a big year this year, he is in a contract year, and would want money we aren't going to give him. So the ONLY potential he has for us, would for him to break out this year, and be a UFA next year, a team take him, and we get a compensatory draft pick. There is absolutely no way, barring injury to 1-3, that Hankerson is on the team in 2015.

Robinson pretty much the same as Hankerson, except he only costs 570K against the cap.

From a team building viewpoint this is the time to bring in new diamond in the roughs, let them develop for 2 years behind 1-3, and see if we can actually develop a home grown receiver. Again, if anyone wants to argue that Hank and Robinson should be those guys, remember their contracts expire this year. We have 1-3 locked up for at least 2 years. It really seems like a no brainer to me.

Late round rookies or Undrafted FA's probably are about 430K against the cap, so it's not really a money decision in any way. Simply that we just signed 2 premium WR's to 2 year contracts, and both Hank and AR's contracts end in 1.

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I think AR will be our primary KR this season.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1067306]At least one late WR will be drafted, and neither Hank nor Robinson are big ST players, which WR's 4 and 5 should be. If either one improves at ST, then keep them, otherwise, our receivers are 1- Garcon, 2-DJax, 3-Roberts, 4-Moss, 5/6 new WR's not yet named that will be groomed.

My rationale (and I hope Gruden's):
Signing DJax and Roberts locks down spots 1-3 for 2 years barring injury.

Hankerson's ceiling is pretty much established. If he was going to do anything he would have done it by now. He certainly isn't going to suddenly become better than 1-3. He costs $660K against the cap. Even if he had a big year this year, he is in a contract year, and would want money we aren't going to give him. So the ONLY potential he has for us, would for him to break out this year, and be a UFA next year, a team take him, and we get a compensatory draft pick. There is absolutely no way, barring injury to 1-3, that Hankerson is on the team in 2015.

Robinson pretty much the same as Hankerson, except he only costs 570K against the cap.

From a team building viewpoint this is the time to bring in new diamond in the roughs, let them develop for 2 years behind 1-3, and see if we can actually develop a home grown receiver. Again, if anyone wants to argue that Hank and Robinson should be those guys, remember their contracts expire this year. We have 1-3 locked up for at least 2 years. It really seems like a no brainer to me.

Late round rookies or Undrafted FA's probably are about 430K against the cap, so it's not really a money decision in any way. Simply that we just signed 2 premium WR's to 2 year contracts, and both Hank and AR's contracts end in 1.[/quote]

diamonds in the rough like devin thomas, malcom kelly, desmon briscoe or the other ho-hums we've seen trotted through here? hankerson is/has been better than them, and he hasn't done anything to merit a big deal, so next year if we like him, guess what? vet min. moss is less likely to make the roster than he is, cause he's only getting worse.

AR would also go before him, cause he only knows one route, though he did show some improvement. again though, we probably keep 6 WRs, and until some no names shows they're worth a spot, the law of averages and past performance shows that the 3 we've got are more likely to stay over someone we haven't heard of. if they do draft a guy, it'd probably be moss, than AR that get the boot. but i'm not going to fall in love with WRs we don't even have on the roster or declare the ones actually there dead until i see some proof that someone else can get on the field and play first.

and if you think the skins will keep a crappier player to save 100k, that's just silly. we're not the titans.

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Neither Hankerson nor Aldrick is a lock to make the roster. We're kidding ourselves if we think otherwise

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[quote=SmootSmack;1067313]Neither Hankerson nor Aldrick is a lock to make the roster. We're kidding ourselves if we think otherwise[/quote]

Besides neither of them are the future. We'd do better by investing in a draft pick. Our current starters are young enough to cut bait on these guys and develop eventual replacements in the next couple of drafts.

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I think when you have solid starters is the time you bring in guys to see who wants to make it, you don't wait until the need is there (ie when Roberts DJax both are up for extensions in 2 to 3 years).

I said specifically that money isn't an issue either way, but the fact that you could have a guy under contract for 4 years with 1 to develop and 1 to challenge and then 2 more to play, makes a lot more sense than having a guy who hasn't developed enough in 3 years to prevent the team from bringing in a good FA (Roberts) to be the number 2 (until DJax was let go and signed).

Serious question for all those who think Hankerson especially ought to be on the roster, what more do you need to see from him for him to take Roberts place as number 3, or Garcon's place as number one? And when would he get the chance to prove it (please don't say preseason) before his contract expires next year and you need to decide what you want to do with him?

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[quote=ICantGoAnother20yrsOfCrap;1067315]Besides neither of them are the future. We'd do better by investing in a draft pick. Our current starters are young enough to cut bait on these guys and develop eventual replacements in the next couple of drafts.[/quote]

Exactly

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1067297]I think he needs to learn to hold on to the ball.[/quote]

Alligator Aldrick? No way. :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;1067313]Neither Hankerson nor Aldrick is a lock to make the roster. We're kidding ourselves if we think otherwise[/quote]

You could add Moss to that as well, correct? Basically past Roberts the rest of the corp is up for grabs.

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I would like to see Williams and Gettis get a shot to make contributions.

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Great article. Seems like I have read something similar a million times.

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10714660]NFL DeSean Jackson signing risky at best - ESPN[/url]

Just heard that Desean Jacksons pop warner team was the Redskins.

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how much do you think a WR we draft is going to develop when his cap here is as our #4? he'll be lucky to see 8 snaps a game. and our track record of developing WRs is also pretty terrible. I just don't see why so many people are cutting bait on the WRs we have that have actually caught balls in real games for guys they can't even name that aren't even on the roster.

maybe when they do something in (at least) a preseason game it'd be worth a discussion, but the odds are low and the difference they make over the next 3 years is probably very close to none.

[QUOTE=That Guy;1067337]how much do you think a WR we draft is going to develop when his cap here is as our #4? he'll be lucky to see 8 snaps a game. and our track record of developing WRs is also pretty terrible. I just don't see why so many people are cutting bait on the WRs we have that have actually caught balls in real games for guys they can't even name that aren't even on the roster.



maybe when they do something in (at least) a preseason game it'd be worth a discussion, but the odds are low and the difference they make over the next 3 years is probably very close to none.[/QUOTE]


If there is a wr they are very high on available in the draft than maybe they pull the trigger. Dont forget injuries do happen. Again I think it would have to be a guy they are really high on. Also maybe he is a ST contributor.
That being said I cannot see us drafting a wr. Personally I want to keep Hank as the number four. Also i dont think it is our track record of developing wr's as much as it was just missing on them. If it was a case of untapped potential they would have flourished elsewhere.

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we have two years, where young guys can come in, learn behind top talent, and be evaluated by our staff. That reps they get come in the meaningless games. Those reps do nothing for Hankerson or Robinson, they are who they are. If you get two young guys or more in the undrafted ranks, in this a particularly deep WR draft (so everybody says), then they get two offseasons, 1 preseason, this year, with no pressure just focusing on learning and improving. Next year you bring another guy in, hopefully one of the two this year has something, if not then move on.

People harp on how we haven't developed WR's which is true. But that's because we draft them and throw them in thinking they have to be the guys. If you want to develop a skill player in the NFL, most of the time you have to let them cut their teeth in training camp and preseason then let them start pushing the older guys.

But no, let's keep Hankerson and Robinson, they will not be good enough next year to supplant 1-3, and so we will let them go because we aren't going to commit long term to them after 4 years of less then stellar results. The following year, when Garcon and DJax are looking at other offers, we will be stuck drafting out of need, and not for development.

Good plan.

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I'm torn a bit with the wide receivers, the draft, and who the Redskins should keep.

Like Aldrick Robinson. If you keep him and his speed, this may be a package that opposing defenses may fear and would need to account for: Robinson, DeSean Jackson, Garcon, and Jordan Reed on field at the same time. Which one do you double or bracket? At the very least Robinson should get behind the defense in this formation. If he can catch it consistently, this would be unstoppable.

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Heads up: Sportscenter is running an exclusive Stephen A. Smith - DeSean Jackson interview tonight at 6 pm.

[QUOTE=jdlea;1067358]Heads up: Sportscenter is running an exclusive Stephen A. Smith - DeSean Jackson interview tonight at 6 pm.[/QUOTE]


Cool thanks man