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[quote=chico23231;1077477]yeah heard it on the way home from the park. I saw on twitter by chris russell i believe, that skins were warned he could be stupid like this. Not a big deal with me but hopeful he learns[/quote]

12 game suspension!!!!! NAO!!!! Wait did he hit a woman? 4.....minute suspension and $5 fine, he will also be punished with a medal of accommodation ceremony.

[I]Edit:[/I] Crap I forgot he was a relatively early draft pick

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Where's the punishment for partying with an officiating exec?

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Breeland is a fucking idiot. You are already a long shot to make the squad and to go and do something stupid like that? It just shows you how moronic he is. Do you really want somebody who's going such poor decisions. It's one thing to be a first rounder and make bone headed decisions, but a camp fodder guy? /facepalm

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Breeland was pretty much a roster lock, IMO. But yeah, not the wisest move by him. Hopefully he leaves the rule-breaking behind Trent-style after his fine.

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Breeland was a late round pick, no way he's a roster lock. Just a dumb decision by a rookie. Even if he does make the team he's looking at increased testing from the drug program, if he wasn't already. And if he was already being tested often, we're probably looking at a suspension too.

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You cant stop stupid.
:doh:

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What Breeland did was dumb and will hurt him. But the dude is young and, like many others at that age, foolish. And in the world of NFL misbehavior, this is about as minimal as it gets.

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[quote=Lotus;1077500]What Breeland did was dumb and will hurt him. But the dude is young and, like many others at that age, foolish. And in the world of NFL misbehavior, this is about as minimal as it gets.[/quote]

I agree with all of this. The only way this is more than a DOH moment is if he gets put into the NFL drug testing program. If that happens, his window for DOH moments shrinks considerably. If the NFL ignores it, or goes with a fine only then he will move on from it, and hopefully be smarter in the future.

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Rich Tandler ‏@Rich_TandlerCSN 58s
Chris Thompson not in pads again today. #Redskins

I think this guy is gone. Sometimes you just can't get your body right.

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Doug Worthington waived, TE Matt Veldman signed

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^He's got some size at 6-7, 255. Not the most athletic though.

Maybe this could be taken as positive news about Stephen Bowen, though? Maybe he's close to being cleared?

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[quote=Chico23231;1077505]Doug Worthington waived, TE Matt Veldman signed[/quote]

Sad. I've liked Worthington. Not the most talented but a scrapper.

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[quote=mooby;1077485]Breeland was a late round pick, no way he's a roster lock. Just a dumb decision by a rookie. Even if he does make the team he's looking at increased testing from the drug program, if he wasn't already. And if he was already being tested often, we're probably looking at a suspension too.[/quote]

The reporting from camp sure sounded like he was playing well enough to be a lock. Keim said more than once he was pushing Biggers and Porter for the slot CB role.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1077483]Breeland is a fucking idiot. You are already a long shot to make the squad and to go and do something stupid like that? It just shows you how moronic he is. Do you really want somebody who's going such poor decisions. It's one thing to be a first rounder and make bone headed decisions, but a camp fodder guy? /facepalm[/quote]

Did you ever make any mistakes when you were in your early 20's? I guess you were Mr. Perfect. Right? Cause you sure as hell come off as someone who seems like you've never done anything wrong. Lol.

Also Breeland is not a camp fodder. He's making the team.

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[quote=budw38;1077476]Breeland had a small amount of pot .... [URL]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/13/bashaud-breeland-cited-marijuana-possession-vcu-po/[/URL][/quote]

Honestly, just make the shit legal. So many of the players do it and can you blame them? After 3 weeks of getting you body beaten to death I really can't blame these guys. Non issue but he needs to be smarter.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1077513][B]Honestly, just make the shit legal. So many of the players do it and can you blame them? [/B]After 3 weeks of getting you body beaten to death I really can't blame these guys. Non issue but he needs to be smarter.[/quote]

I'll assume you were high when you when you created this........

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How did Breeland become just a camp body? By all accounts he's had a solid camp and the coaches really like his long term potential.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1077513]Honestly, just make the shit legal. So many of the players do it and can you blame them? After 3 weeks of getting you body beaten to death I really can't blame these guys. Non issue but he needs to be smarter.[/QUOTE]


Yeah you can blame them since they are well aware that it's illegal. The law sucks but it is what it is. Until it changes guys gotta be smart about it.

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I know everyone wants Griffin to be the quintessential pocket passer, but I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot of rollouts and play action. And I think that's going to be a very good thing:

Washington Redskins ‏@Redskins 1h
Speaking of great connections, @RGIII finds @DeSeanJackson11 down the right side for a 45-yard completion during 11-on-11's. #HTTR

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1077517]I know everyone wants Griffin to be the quintessential pocket passer, but I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot of rollouts and play action. And I think that's going to be a very good thing:



Washington Redskins ‏@Redskins 1h

Speaking of great connections, @RGIII finds @DeSeanJackson11 down the right side for a 45-yard completion during 11-on-11's. #HTTR[/QUOTE]


It would be dumb to not take advantage of his legs when it comes to rolling out or boot looks off PA. I'm pretty sure Gruden will mix a lot of that stuff in.

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[quote=Hog1;1077514]I'll assume you were high when you when you created this........[/quote]

I haven't been high in about 20 years!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1077517]I know everyone wants Griffin to be the quintessential pocket passer, but I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot of rollouts and play action. And I think that's going to be a very good thing:

Washington Redskins ‏@Redskins 1h
Speaking of great connections, @RGIII finds @DeSeanJackson11 down the right side for a 45-yard completion during 11-on-11's. #HTTR[/quote]

Yeah gotta have a lot of rollouts and play action rollouts to get him on the move. However, NFL defensive coordinators aren't stupid. They're going to try and keep him inside the tackle box.

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sweep, zone reads and tosses to the left set up PA bootleg to the weak side pretty well for RG3 in the past.

i hope we can run weak side this year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1077513]Honestly, just make the shit legal. So many of the players do it and can you blame them? After 3 weeks of getting you body beaten to death I really can't blame these guys. Non issue but he needs to be smarter.[/quote]

i partake but ....


even if it was legal, i wouldnt allow my players to do it during football season.

it shows a lack of discipline and commitment. it will make your brain foggy in the morning, it will make you eat munchies and play madden until 4 am, it will effect your short term memory to a small degree.

being 22-23 does not excuse a professional athlete from not being 100% committed to being the very best player he can be.

in the offseason or only the night after a game could i understand and justify it ... but in training camp? when you havent proven yourself to be a contributing player or teammate others can rely upon?

certainly not the end of the world but i want 52 players with a drive to excel, to eat sleep and shit football when it is football season .... and guess what?

its football season. time to put your hard hat on and earn that money and fame.

show your commitment or i will show you the GD door.

give me 52 RG3s and London Fletchers and I will show you an over-achieving team with limitless potential.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1077520]Yeah gotta have a lot of rollouts and play action rollouts to get him on the move. However, NFL defensive coordinators aren't stupid. They're going to try and keep him inside the tackle box.[/quote]

True, but my point is, Griffin's game isn't defined simply by pure pocket passing. He is better when you move him a bit, and although defenses will try to keep him in the tackle box, good game planning on our side, which I expect we will have, will put RGIII in positions that give him the advantage.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1077522]i partake but ....





even if it was legal, i wouldnt allow my players to do it during football season.



it shows a lack of discipline and commitment. it will make your brain foggy in the morning, it will make you eat munchies and play madden until 4 am, it will effect your short term memory to a small degree.[/QUOTE]

I'd change the wills to cans.

Same can be said of alcohol use which players also engage in.

It's all about responsible use in the end.

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[quote=Mattyk;1077524]I'd change the wills to cans.

Same can be said of[B] alcohol use which players also engage in.[/B]

It's all about responsible use in the end.[/quote]

I was about to say the same thing. Alcohol use has far more hangover issues, foggy, headaches, stomach issues and not to mention way more motor skill issues while under the effects (DUI or worse...death). Interesting how society perceives things.

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Speaking Thursday, Redskins coach Jay Gruden praised Alfred Morris, calling him "Steady Eddie" for his practice habits.

"Just about everything about him is an impressive to me — the way he prepares, the way he works, the way he practices," Gruden said. Meanwhile, FB Darrel Young praised Morris' improvement as a pass catcher. "He’s catching everything," Young said. "He’s on a hot streak right now, running his routes, doing the little things better." Although we still don't expect a meaningful role for Morris in passing situations, it's clear Gruden and Co. aren't going to shy away from him on early downs

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Disappointed in Breeland, didn't he see what happened to Tanard Jackson? Stupid is as stupid does. He better get his shit together quick or he won't be around, the good thing out of this is that it open a spot for Crawford or Minnifield due to suspension.

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Id like to know the percentage of NFL players who smoke weed in the offseason. Any clue, guesses?

Im gonna say 30%

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[quote=Chico23231;1077544]Id like to know the percentage of NFL players who smoke weed in the offseason. Any clue, guesses?

Im gonna say 30%[/quote]

As to what you relayed about Alfmo, awesome! If defenses have to respect Alfmo as a pass catcher, things get groovier for us.

As to your question, IMO way higher than 30%.

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I'd say 60-70% smoke weed

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wow...man that ton of guys and weed

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1077540]Disappointed in Breeland, didn't he see what happened to Tanard Jackson? Stupid is as stupid does. He better get his shit together quick or he won't be around, the good thing out of this is that it open a spot for Crawford or Minnifield due to suspension.[/QUOTE]


A 1st offense won't get him suspended.

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So you guys think that over half of the NFL smokes weed? Wow! I would think, at most, maybe between 35-45%.

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[quote=over the mountain;1077522]i partake but ....


even if it was legal, i wouldnt allow my players to do it during football season.

it shows a lack of discipline and commitment. it will make your brain foggy in the morning, it will make you eat munchies and play madden until 4 am, it will effect your short term memory to a small degree.

being 22-23 does not excuse a professional athlete from not being 100% committed to being the very best player he can be.

in the offseason or only the night after a game could i understand and justify it ... but in training camp? when you havent proven yourself to be a contributing player or teammate others can rely upon?

certainly not the end of the world but i want 52 players with a drive to excel, to eat sleep and shit football when it is football season .... and guess what?

its football season. time to put your hard hat on and earn that money and fame.

show your commitment or i will show you the GD door.

give me 52 RG3s and London Fletchers and I will show you an over-achieving team with limitless potential.[/quote]

You're never ever going to have 52 RG3's and London Fletcher's on any roster. You're always going to have few guys that party. Come Sunday night after a game, win or a loss, guys are going to let their hair down. Hell The Hogs would pound beers after practice in a shed.

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[quote=Lotus;1077545]As to what you relayed about Alfmo, awesome! If defenses have to respect Alfmo as a pass catcher, things get groovier for us.

As to your question, IMO way higher than 30%.[/quote]

I always wondered why the Shanahan's never tried to develop Morris in that area. Terrible coaching!

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Shanny's offense just didn't throw to backs much, did he ever have a back that caught many passes?

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[quote=skinsguy;1077554]So you guys think that over half of the NFL smokes weed? Wow! I would think, at most, maybe between 35-45%.[/quote]

Given the fact we're talking about young guys straight out of college and how more common and accepted it's becoming, I'd say the % is higher than the rest of society.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1077512]Did you ever make any mistakes when you were in your early 20's? I guess you were Mr. Perfect. Right? Cause you sure as hell come off as someone who seems like you've never done anything wrong. Lol.

Also Breeland is not a camp fodder. He's making the team.[/quote]



Well, whenever I took a job that required me to do drug testing, I stopped smoking weed until I was at one that didn't have drug testing. It's not about being perfect or making mistakes. It's about being smart and know when you can and can't do things, and the consequences involved if you so choose to do them.

In the ordinary world, those guys are fired point blank for failing a drug test. There are no 3-4 chances to fall back on. These guys have been sheltered their whole life, and allowed to do what they want (pretty much) as long as they played good.

I have no sympathy for idiots that don't recognize the type of opportunity they have that only very few could even dream of.

Maybe he does make the team, maybe he doesn't. Generally a low round pick has slim chances of making the squad. Good thing for him our CBs suck. (beyond Amerson/Hall)