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As it's the Browns, we ought to be able to get both their 1st rounders and then some -- let's fleece those chumps.

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GOT to love this guy! Watch it through to the end......
I'm really gonna love this dude if this stuff starts coming true.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Scot-McCloughan-is-Very-Confident-on-the-Clock/2fb91dd6-f1d7-47eb-990e-5d5a9e9ecfdc]Scot McCloughan is "Very Confident on the Clock"[/url]

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[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Browns-could-trade-up-with-Redskins-36990589]Report: Browns could trade up with Redskins[/url]

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[quote=53Fan;1111734][url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Browns-could-trade-up-with-Redskins-36990589]Report: Browns could trade up with Redskins[/url][/quote]

I would need their 12th, 19th, and a 3rd rounder

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1111736]I would need their 12th, 19th, and a 3rd rounder[/quote]

We're not getting all of that. The 12th and the 19th would be good enough. We could turn that 19th pick into maybe two or three extra picks.

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[quote=Hog1;1111730]GOT to love this guy! Watch it through to the end......
I'm really gonna love this dude if this stuff starts coming true.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Scot-McCloughan-is-Very-Confident-on-the-Clock/2fb91dd6-f1d7-47eb-990e-5d5a9e9ecfdc]Scot McCloughan is "Very Confident on the Clock"[/url][/quote]

so now there are 12-15 great players in this draft - the "experts" were saying 6-8 great ones, a trade with Cleveland makes sense

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1111705]I'll take their #12 and their second and both their 4ths.[/quote]

I'd do it for the 12th pick, their 2nd, and as little as one of their 4ths. Of course, I'd try to get more. I consider this to be the first year of our rebuild and we need more good players everywhere, so I'd compromise to get those additional picks.

We're going to get an excellent prospect at #12, possibly La'el Collins, Bud Dupree, Shane Ray, or Randy Gregory.

At #43 (Brown's 2nd) there will be very good players available, such as Donovan Smith, Paul Dawson, Ameer Abdullah, and Eric Rowe.

At #115 (Brown's second 4th) we might be able to get another good prospect, such as Alex Carter, Ali Marpet, or Tre' Jackson.

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[quote=Hog1;1111730]GOT to love this guy! Watch it through to the end......
I'm really gonna love this dude if this stuff starts coming true.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Scot-McCloughan-is-Very-Confident-on-the-Clock/2fb91dd6-f1d7-47eb-990e-5d5a9e9ecfdc]Scot McCloughan is "Very Confident on the Clock"[/url][/quote]

He is impressive! I can hardly wait until the draft action starts. He definitely has me believing that we're gonna get better with the players we pick in this draft.

p.s. Why do I love this event so much? I really don't know - I just do.

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[quote=Hog1;1111730]GOT to love this guy! Watch it through to the end......
I'm really gonna love this dude if this stuff starts coming true.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Scot-McCloughan-is-Very-Confident-on-the-Clock/2fb91dd6-f1d7-47eb-990e-5d5a9e9ecfdc]Scot McCloughan is "Very Confident on the Clock"[/url][/quote]

Wow. Just wow.

So ... many good nuggets.

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[quote=Hog1;1111730]GOT to love this guy! Watch it through to the end......
I'm really gonna love this dude if this stuff starts coming true.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Scot-McCloughan-is-Very-Confident-on-the-Clock/2fb91dd6-f1d7-47eb-990e-5d5a9e9ecfdc]Scot McCloughan is "Very Confident on the Clock"[/url][/quote]

Thanks for posting and thank god we finally have a guy in the front office we can be confident about. This guy knows what he is doing

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i love the confident way McCloughan talks. He doesnt try to sell himself. he doesnt need to. he reminds me of a successful trial attorney. he knows what he is doing. he knows not many can do what he does ... . and it comes natural and easy to him.

im really excited for this draft bc of the options. we stay at 5 and get a premier potential player, we trade back and let Scot take some chances. its all good.

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[quote=Mattyk;1111699][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/27/report-browns-have-been-in-touch-with-washington-about-no-5-overall-pick/]Report: Browns have been in touch with Washington about No. 5 overall pick | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Does the Browns first round curse come with the pick? Or does it only apply if we pick a QB with it?

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[quote=TexSkins;1111809]Does the Browns first round curse come with the pick? Or does it only apply if we pick a QB with it?[/quote]

Well since 1994 we've chosen, Heath Schuler, Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell, and RGIII. Jury may still be out on RGIII but we haven't exactly been blessed ourselves with first round picks on QBs. Hopefully we don't take one in the first trade or not. 😉

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The Browns have reportedly talked to every team that picks in the Top 10 about a trade. I read that they are willing to trade both of their firsts for the opportunity to draft Marcus Mariota. If that is the only goal they have in mind, I doubt that we'll be able to trade down with them because I'd be shocked if Mariota doesn't go second.

However, if Leonard Williams is still there at #5, Scot said that he might trade down for more picks. That would be with some team other than the Browns, I assume. I can't quite fathom the value of that trade since Williams is the best player in the draft, IMO, and there wouldn't two 2015 first round picks to be had in return. I think we could always use a future All-Pro DL to dominate our opponents.

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[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/dolphins-draft-bust-dion-jordan-will-miss-all-of-2015-with-another-suspension-172206107.html[/url]

just a scary reminder to do your home work on a guy.

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[quote=over the mountain;1111761]i love the confident way McCloughan talks. He doesnt try to sell himself. he doesnt need to. he reminds me of a successful trial attorney. he knows what he is doing. he knows not many can do what he does ... . and it comes natural and easy to him.

im really excited for this draft bc of the options. we stay at 5 and get a premier potential player, we trade back and let Scot take some chances. its all good.[/quote]

I would agree. He has a blue print on how to do things. But with that being said, he passed on Aaron Rodgers for Alex Smith. In other words, just like every NFL GM, he has bad misses.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2015/story/_/id/12786057/cleveland-browns-discussed-trade-tennessee-titans-no-2-pick-nfl-draft]Cleveland Browns have discussed trade with Tennessee Titans about No. 2 pick in NFL draft[/url]


That stinks....

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1111823]The Browns have reportedly talked to every team that picks in the Top 10 about a trade. I read that they are willing to trade both of their firsts for the opportunity to draft Marcus Mariota. If that is the only goal they have in mind, I doubt that we'll be able to trade down with them because I'd be shocked if Mariota doesn't go second.

However, if Leonard Williams is still there at #5, Scot said that he might trade down for more picks. That would be with some team other than the Browns, I assume. I can't quite fathom the value of that trade since Williams is the best player in the draft, IMO, and there wouldn't two 2015 first round picks to be had in return. I think we could always use a future All-Pro DL to dominate our opponents.[/quote]

I didn't get why he said that. Why wouldn't we just draft Williams? I know he's not a 3-4 end but he's potentially a great player.

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^ I have a feeling he would draft Williams, actually. Having said that, if someone was going to make a Cerrato-like offer for a ton of picks, we'd be crazy not to at least listen to it. But I have a feeling that williams will be off the board by 5 anyway.

BTW, would be cool: On offense, meet our enforcer, Mr. Williams. On defense, meet our enforcer Mr. Williams. Williams v. Williams in practice would be a awesome thing to behold.

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[quote=Skins4Eva;1111837][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2015/story/_/id/12786057/cleveland-browns-discussed-trade-tennessee-titans-no-2-pick-nfl-draft]Cleveland Browns have discussed trade with Tennessee Titans about No. 2 pick in NFL draft[/url]


That stinks....[/quote]

Pretty sure they have discussed trading with everyone ahead of them

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[quote=skinsfan69;1111838]I didn't get why he said that. Why wouldn't we just draft Williams? I know he's not a 3-4 end but he's potentially a great player.[/quote]My guess is he would take Williams but diligence is to listen to offers.

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Williams would be a steal at #5, I'm sure SM would love to be in that position to field offers.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1111838]I didn't get why he said that. Why wouldn't we just draft Williams? I know he's not a 3-4 end but he's potentially a great player.[/quote]

So what if Williams is not a 3-4 end,Williams is a great football player. We will not be in 3-4 all the time.
Frankly, I am tired of all of this 3-4 talk. Yes, it is our supposed base defense, but if we draft Williams and we dominate or play better in a 4-3 rather than 3-4, I would think our coaches are smart enough and humble enough to be open to a change.
HOF Joe Gibbs changed his Air Coryell offense to Riggo Counter Trey. Our current coaches are not HOF.

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Williams could play any spot on the DL.

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If Williams makes it to 5 that should be the end of our night. Make the LB's job that much easier

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So with all the concentration McC has spent on rebuilding the Dline shows the value he places on that area of the football team...and now he has the ability to add the best Dline player in the draft and possibily the highest rated player as well...you think he would be pass that up?

I dont think he would

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[quote=skinsfan69;1111838]I didn't get why he said that. Why wouldn't we just draft Williams? I know he's not a 3-4 end but he's potentially a great player.[/quote]i dont understand what makes you say he's not a 34 DE? From what I see that seems to be his natural position.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1111833]I would agree. He has a blue print on how to do things. But with that being said, he passed on Aaron Rodgers for Alex Smith. In other words, just like every NFL GM, he has bad misses.[/quote]

I'd call that more of a good call by the Pack than a bad miss by the 9ers... neither here nor there.

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From WalterFootball. Interesting take on Williams and why maybe Scott M. would trade down. Picks 3-5.

[url=http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php]2015 NFL Mock Draft - WalterFootball.com[/url]

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Going with my final pick.

Fowler Jr

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[quote=53Fan;1111859]From WalterFootball. Interesting take on Williams and why maybe Scott M. would trade down. Picks 3-5.

[url=http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php]2015 NFL Mock Draft - WalterFootball.com[/url][/quote]

Williams has a history of shoulder problems too

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2202757-leonard-williams-injury-updates-on-usc-stars-shoulder-and-return]Leonard Williams Injury: Updates on USC Star's Shoulder and Return | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1111866]Going with my final pick.

Fowler Jr[/quote]

Going with my final pick:

Amari Cooper WR, Alabama

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[quote=30gut;1111854]i dont understand what makes you say he's not a 34 DE? From what I see that seems to be his natural position.[/quote]

Just seems more of a 4-3 penetrating type of tackle, and not someone who eats up blockers for the lb's.

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What am I missing on Cooper? I guess I just don't see a special player in him. He's very likely going to be a solid receiver, but he'll never be an elite #1. He doesn't have the size, athleticism, or ball skills in the air to ever be great at contested balls. One of his strengths is supposed to be run-after-the-catch, but way too often he's brought down right away. And what about the drops? And what about his terrible blocking? His best aspect is probably his route-running, but it's hard to project this to the NFL because of how Kiffin used him. To me, Cooper is going to have a Pierre Garcon-like impact on his team's passing game. He's going to be a good #2, or maybe a serviceable #1 if you focus on getting him the ball. But he will not be worth #5 overall.

I don't want a receiver at #5, but if forced, White would be my choice over Cooper.

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TG the draft is tomorrow!
NO Vinnie.....Bruce doing what he does best.....
A First round pick?
A competent GM...
I'm about to bust.......

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[quote=hog1;1111877]tg the draft is tomorrow!
No vinnie.....bruce doing what he does best.....
A first round pick?
A competent gm...
I'm about to bust.......[/quote]

hail!!!

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[quote=Hog1;1111730]GOT to love this guy! Watch it through to the end......
I'm really gonna love this dude if this stuff starts coming true.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Scot-McCloughan-is-Very-Confident-on-the-Clock/2fb91dd6-f1d7-47eb-990e-5d5a9e9ecfdc]Scot McCloughan is "Very Confident on the Clock"[/url][/quote]


Please lil Danny, don't fuck this up for us. Thanks.

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Fowler.

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Glad it's finally draft day.

For $1 I say: (so far 0 for 1 on dollar bets this week, so take this as a wild ass guess more than anything else)

With Mariota still on the board at 5,

We trade with Cleveland our 5th overall for their 12th, their 2nd this year and their 3rd next year.
Rd 1 -12 Ereck Flowers, T

We trade our 2nd, our 4th to move back to Denver for their 28th pick
Rd 1 - 28 Landon Collins, SS
Rd 2 - 43(from Clev) Maxx Williams, TE

We trade down again to 76 for Minnesota's 5 and swapping 7ths
Rd 3 - 76 Garrett Grayson QB
no 4th Rounder
Rd 5 - 137 (from Minn) David Parry NT
Rd 5 - 148 Corey Robinson, OT
Rd 6 - 182 Troy Hill, CB
Rd 7 - 228 (swapped Minn) John Timu, ILB

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H T T R

Draft day baby.

Personally wanna see Fowler Jr. Partial to gators too that was muschamps last mark over there.