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[quote=NC_Skins;1139708]Do tell. How is Obama supposed to handle this without the help of Congress?[/quote]

He can set the legislative agenda, propose plans, actively engage party leadership, and start the conversation with the American people. You know the Presidency is a leadership role.

He did take some small steps in cutting the budget which were positive.

But the right have been some dickheads...Paul Ryan will be a better leader in there.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/26/chris-christie-just-endorsed-trump-a-few-weeks-ago-he-said-trump-had-no-experience-and-would-hand-the-race-to-democrats/[/url]

Christie endorses Trump?!!! wow...didn't see this coming.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1139675]OK, so people who thought GWB or Obama were bad presidents, define that.

When you woke up one day, was your life different?[/quote]

you mean the unfunded war with simultaneous tax cuts? i thought the GOP was supposed to understand financials and help shrink the government and balance the budget.

personally though, my time in iraq etc wouldn't have been possible without leaders like these. so um, waking up in 135 degree sandbox without a/c was definitely a bit different. or mortar drills.

getting out and having a hard time getting hired cause my job didn't require a TS clearance and the economy stank wasn't a great experience either. luckily i live in a place where my house/mortgage didn't get turned upside down and i knew better than to get anything that wasn't a 30 year fixed, so i avoided that whole disaster (which was partially caused by clinton's push to get home ownership up, and mainly pushed by greed).

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[quote=That Guy;1139712]you mean the unfunded war with simultaneous tax cuts? i thought the GOP was supposed to understand financials and help shrink the government and balance the budget.

[B]personally though, my time in iraq etc wouldn't have been possible without leaders like these. so um, waking up in 135 degree sandbox without a/c was definitely a bit different. or mortar drills.[/B]

getting out and having a hard time getting hired cause my job didn't require a TS clearance and the economy stank wasn't a great experience either. luckily i live in a place where my house/mortgage didn't get turned upside down and i knew better than to get anything that wasn't a 30 year fixed, so i avoided that whole disaster (which was partially caused by clinton's push to get home ownership up, and mainly pushed by greed).[/quote]

Sooo you were drafted, right?

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[quote=Hog1;1139732]Sooo you were drafted, right?[/quote]

you are actually capable of reading comprehension, right?

he asked me how things changed, i provided an example. if that's to difficult to grasp, maybe you need to go back and get that GED.

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I noticed you failed to answer my question. Why is that?
How is that for reading comprehension?

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[quote=That Guy;1139712]you mean the unfunded war with simultaneous tax cuts? i thought the GOP was supposed to understand financials and help shrink the government and balance the budget.

personally though, my time in iraq etc wouldn't have been possible without leaders like these. so um, waking up in 135 degree sandbox without a/c was definitely a bit different. or mortar drills.

getting out and having a hard time getting hired cause my job didn't require a TS clearance and the economy stank wasn't a great experience either. luckily i live in a place where my house/mortgage didn't get turned upside down and i knew better than to get anything that wasn't a 30 year fixed, so i avoided that whole disaster (which was partially caused by clinton's push to get home ownership up, and mainly pushed by greed).[/quote]


First and foremost Thank You for your service I wanted you to know your sacrifice has not gone unnoticed.

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Rubio Rubio Rubio

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[quote=Hog1;1139737]I noticed you failed to answer my question. Why is that?
How is that for reading comprehension?[/quote]

no one's been drafted since vietnam, so obviously not. i just figured you're either saying that i volunteered so i should be happy to have ordinance lobbed at my base, or that my opinion on the war shouldn't count, even though i've actually been there.

if you didn't actually know that, then apologies, but i think it's pretty common knowledge.

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[quote=Chico23231;1139760]Rubio Rubio Rubio[/quote]


John Oliver got Trump pretty good!!!



[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGc2nN9OguQ[/url]


and Letterman from years ago........

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXk51R4rllg[/url]

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Looks like you posted the same video twice there chief...

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[quote=mooby;1139817]Looks like you posted the same video twice there chief...[/quote]

Sorry my bad!


Letterman.........

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXk51R4rllg[/url]

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the john oliver piece is pretty worthwhile, especially if you're considering voting for him.

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It was SO hard today to say which primary am I voting for because I REALLY want to add votes for Rubio so Trump can't be the nominee, but he has so many things worse about him I couldn't stomach doing it.

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Did you notice any comments on the John Oliver piece? Any Trump supporter said the same shit he mentions in the piece. They're just like, "Stupid!" or "Just wait until Trump is president." I'm like, did you even LISTEN to this or are you brain-washed in stupid?

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[YT]d32577Hom08[/YT]

All time favorite trump interview...I still roll with laughter

This is the guy folks are wanting as their president...I'm so confused

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If you have the time to watch I highly recommend this

[url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/gop-primary-based-on-romney-favors-trump-tone-633915459532]GOP primary based on Romney favors Trump tone | MSNBC[/url]

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Have you ever talked to someone who wants Drumpf for president and asked them what they see in him? You get the dumbest replies and none of it makes sense or explains how people think he is qualified at all.

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[quote=MTK;1139898]If you have the time to watch I highly recommend this

[url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/gop-primary-based-on-romney-favors-trump-tone-633915459532]GOP primary based on Romney favors Drumpf tone | MSNBC[/url][/quote]

If the GOP leadership is competent in the least they will quietly add a bunch of superdelegates before 2020. That way their nominee can clinch earlier and it won't be someone from the clown half of the party.

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[quote=Hijinx;1139900]Have you ever talked to someone who wants Drumpf for president and asked them what they see in him? [B]You get the dumbest replies[/B] and none of it makes sense or explains how people think he is qualified at all.[/quote]

Did you see this reporter asking Hitler quotes (without telling them) to Trump supporters?

Reporter: "So do you agree with this statement: ______________?"
Trump Supporter: "Absolutely."
Reporter: "That's actually a quote from Hitler."
Trump Supporter: "Well, I don't support Hitler."
Reporter: "If Donald Trump said it, would you still support it?"
Trump Supporter: "Absolutely."

Now, I'm not equating Trump with someone who killed thousands of people, just pointing out the total stupidity of the supporters.

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Oh, nice. Found the video: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NzhQWcc7h4[/url]

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1139919]Did you see this reporter asking Hitler quotes (without telling them) to Trump supporters?

Reporter: "So do you agree with this statement: ______________?"
Trump Supporter: "Absolutely."
Reporter: "That's actually a quote from Hitler."
Trump Supporter: "Well, I don't support Hitler."
Reporter: "If Donald Trump said it, would you still support it?"
Trump Supporter: "Absolutely."

Now, I'm not equating Trump with someone who killed thousands of people, just pointing out the total stupidity of the supporters.[/quote]

While I get what your saying...you could easily do this with zealous Obama supporters as well.

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Hrm, not to say it wouldn't/couldn't happen, just feel like I haven't seen the same insanity with Obama/Bush/anyone else in the past decade.

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I have a little mixed feelings over the Trump and Bernie support. My obvious feeling, both would be bad for the country. But when I see such outsiders getting a lot of support across the country, it does give me hope that folks outside the typical politician can win support without political machines.

I think that's actually very encouraging.



When we are dealing with Trump and Bernie this fact is widely overlooked by our fuckin jackass media...while they rather get soundbites like supporters saying dumb thing...the fact Bernie and Trump are self funding or getting support off small donations is quite effing amazing. But that doesn't get enough "clicks" I guess.

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[IMG]http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2016/01/29/635896361876476194639040898_160125114628-donald-trump-quote-shoot-somebody-super-169.jpg[/IMG]

Sarah Palin 2.0

If these ultra conservatives really want an ultra conservative -- vote Rand Paul. Of course ultra conservatives would have to actually embrace the true definition of state's rights and not complain when a liberal state implements liberal policies but on the flip side ... Texas, Alabama, Lousianna are all yours.

Truly theatre of the absurd.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1139923]Hrm, not to say it wouldn't/couldn't happen, just feel like I haven't seen the same insanity with Obama/Bush/anyone else in the past decade.[/quote]

well, you had the videos of people saying things like "now that obama's elected, all our problems are over, i don't have to pay my mortgage..."

there are a lot of dumb people out there.

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[quote=Chico23231;1139924]I have a little mixed feelings over the Trump and Bernie support. My obvious feeling, both would be bad for the country. But when I see such outsiders getting a lot of support across the country, it does give me hope that folks outside the typical politician can win support without political machines.

I think that's actually very encouraging.



When we are dealing with Trump and Bernie this fact is widely overlooked by our fuckin jackass media...while they rather get soundbites like supporters saying dumb thing...the fact Bernie and Trump are self funding or getting support off small donations is quite effing amazing. But that doesn't get enough "clicks" I guess.[/quote]

donald trump is not self funded. he's put in $250k, and gave him self a 0% interest loan that he'll be using donations (which he IS actively soliciting, check the donation buttons on his website, there are 2 on the front page)) and not his own money to repay that loan.

obama also got a lot of his money from small donors, he pretty much revolutionized that. i'm sure he took big money too though.

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"ISIS is a JV team"........said laughing in the rose garden by the President while genocide was being committed/still being committed by the group in the middle east.

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[quote=That Guy;1139927]donald trump is not self funded. he's put in $250k, and gave him self a 0% interest loan that he'll be using donations (which he IS actively soliciting, check the donation buttons on his website, there are 2 on the front page)) and not his own money to repay that loan.

[B]obama also got a lot of his money from small donors, he pretty much revolutionized that. i'm sure he took big money too though[/B].[/quote]

Your a jackass with that statement. Revolutionzied that? fuckin please

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[quote=Chico23231;1139928]"ISIS is a JV team"........said laughing in the rose garden by the President while genocide was being committed/still being committed by the group in the middle east.[/quote]

playing political ping pong - bush/cheney paved the groundwork for ISIS by fracturing Iraq/NE syria into rivaling regional sects and for fostering an angry base of people who ISIS were able to recruit by playing to their anger.

basically ISIS tactics = trump/cruz tactics.

They are both taking advantage of an angry demographic who want blood. I read a lot of political forums and the cruz/trump supporters slogan is "locked, loaded and ready".

Such a weird time btw the Tea Party, BLM and all these loud angry extremist groups.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1139921]While I get what your saying...you could easily do this with zealous Obama supporters as well.[/QUOTE]


Except what has Obama ever said that could be confused with what Hitler said?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1139924]I have a little mixed feelings over the Trump and Bernie support. My obvious feeling, both would be bad for the country. But when I see such outsiders getting a lot of support across the country, it does give me hope that folks outside the typical politician can win support without political machines.



I think that's actually very encouraging.







When we are dealing with Trump and Bernie this fact is widely overlooked by our fuckin jackass media...while they rather get soundbites like supporters saying dumb thing...the fact Bernie and Trump are self funding or getting support off small donations is quite effing amazing. But that doesn't get enough "clicks" I guess.[/QUOTE]


Bernie is raising a shit ton of $$.

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[quote=Chico23231;1139931]Your a jackass with that statement. Revolutionzied that? fuckin please[/quote]

yes, jackass, he kind of did. if you can't bother to read, that's a you problem. getting contributions from 3.95 million different donors in one cycle isn't exactly common. he also didn't take money from PACs or registered lobbyists, though he did take a lot of money from big donors. (some quotes)

[quote]According to the Campaign Finance Institute analysis, 55,755 people gave more than $200 to the Obama campaign in the first six months of this year.
That is at least double the number of donors for every other candidate — Republican or Democrat — except for Clinton, who had 36,307 donors.
During the same six-month period in 2003, President Bush had 19,289 donors who’d given more than $200, and Kerry had 9,862, the institute found.
Yet those figures only scratch the surface of Obama’s strength. His campaign says — and other camps don’t dispute — that its total number of donors as of June 30 was 258,000.
That means about 202,000 people gave him less than $200 in the first six months of this year.
Small change? Think again. According to campaign financial disclosure reports, Clinton raised $4 million from donations under $200, and Romney reported $3 million.
Edwards’ small checks amounted to $5 million and Republican front-runner Rudy Giuliani gathered less than a million from the little guys.
In contrast, Obama raised $16.4 million, or 29 percent, of his record-breaking second-quarter total of $57 million from those small donors


Read more: [url=http://www.politico.com/story/2007/09/small-donors-rewrite-fundraising-handbook-006014#ixzz41lxzTWx0]Small donors rewrite fundraising handbook - POLITICO[/url][/quote]

[quote]Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an e-mail that the campaign had more than 3.95 million donors, and "91% of our contributions were in amounts of $100 or less. … There's no doubt that small-dollar contributors played a critical and unprecedented role" in Obama's victory.

The study said Obama brought in a total $638 million, the most ever raised in a political campaign, compared with $206 million by McCain, who accepted $84.1 million in taxpayer financing for the general election. Obama reported 580,000 donors who gave more than $200.

Donors giving $200 or less need not be disclosed, but the difference between the number of donors provided by the Obama campaign and the number reported in federal election records shows there were about 3.4 million of them.[/quote]

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the ISIS thing is a result of a number of problems:

1) involving ourselves in a war under false pretenses (iraq was not a real threat to the US, and whatever threat it posed was less dangerous than the current situation).
2) assigning bremer to run things with 0 middle east experience and letting him make bad decisions like
3) telling the entire security and governing apparatus of the country they were not only fired but they would never have a part in running the new iraq (these were the guys that actually knew how to keep the lights on and fight people).

--now you've got 500,000 well trained, unemployed, angry iraqi veterans with nothing to do, a lot of which joined militias and caused problems until the surge where they were put back on the payroll, until they stopped getting paid, when they started causing problems again.

4) appointing an exiled sectarian guy as the head of the country, who immediately starts running kill squads and excluding sunni's from any kind of leadership role, regardless of qualifications.

5) the iraqis voted in a non sectarian head in 2010, but he was unable to form a majority governing coalition, and obama kind of bucked their constitutional process and left maliki in charge, who kept up with sectarian policies and drove the country right over the cliff.

sunni militias formed in response to the shia militias that are part of iraqi's security forces. they welcomed isis at the time, because they saw america as siding with the shia groups that were killing them.

3) was probably bush's biggest mistake, 5 was obama's. they both made terrible foreign policy decisions.


now we have a situation where we're trying to leverage the shia fundamentalists groups that have infiltrated the entire government security force against the sunni fundamentalists in ISIS. it doesn't matter who wins, we'll still have a country full of fundamentalists fully armed with US weapons. we're literally giving billions of dollars to iraqi's who are fighting under the direction of tehran right now. it makes no sense.

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What a disaster for Rubio. What a flipping disaster. Who in their right mind would vote for trump.

Hog, did you vote today?

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[quote=Chico23231;1140839]What a disaster for Rubio. What a flipping disaster. Who in their right mind would vote for trump.

Hog, did you vote today?[/quote]

I did indeed...late from work, but in time. By the time I got there, I was like third in line.
Where the hell does Rubio go from here? Damn, don't carry your own state? Rough...

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Rational conservative thought in America is dead.

... and, as a whole, we are worse off because of it.

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Rubio was going nowhere for a while. Losing your own state says it all.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1140846]Rubio was going nowhere for a while. Losing your own state says it all.[/QUOTE]
Agreed!

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[quote=MTK;1140846]Rubio was going nowhere for a while. Losing your own state says it all.[/quote]

Fear and anger > optimism and rational

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