Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Yes Dan Snyder owns the Washington Redskins. yes if he doesn't want a player on the team there will not be that player on the team. the same is true for every team in the National Football League and if you don't think that that is the case you are kidding yourself.

Mr. Snyder just paid Kirk Cousins 20 million dollars. I think he is ok with him on the team.

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Re: Redskins GM won't sign Cousins at expense of other good, young players
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;1144741]I doubt they figure that.
Nobody wins championships with scrub QBs.[/quote]

It happens, just not often.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Potentially they could load up on skill position players and feel comfortable enough with a trent dilfer type / game manager....

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Hey I thought Snyder was going to fire everyone last year and take over as head coach and put his boy Griffin back in the lineup?

If Snyder was the tyrant some want to believe he is, he sure is doing a shitty job at it.

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1144754]Potentially they could load up on skill position players and feel comfortable enough with a trent dilfer type / game manager....[/QUOTE]


So why give him $20M this year? They could have just plugged in McCoy if a game manager is what they wanted. You're not making any sense.

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chris russell... shakes head

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[QUOTE=Evilgrin;1144757]chris russell... shakes head[/QUOTE]



His troll level is expert

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1144754]Potentially they could load up on skill position players and feel comfortable enough with a trent dilfer type / game manager....[/QUOTE]



This is getting weird now. Lol. The only thing that is going to stop Cousins from having a future here is Cousins. The Redskins have done everything in their power up until this day to make his future a successful one. Weapons on offense. Got rid of Griff. Paid him 20 million dollars. There are no ancient aliens that are going to ruin this, no magic 8 ball has answered with bad news. You have to take a deep breath and relax. Of course thi gs could go wrong, but not because that is our teams secret agenda.....I SWEAR!

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1144755]Hey I thought Snyder was going to fire everyone last year and take over as head coach and put his boy Griffin back in the lineup?

If Snyder was the tyrant some want to believe he is, he sure is doing a shitty job at it.[/quote]

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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[url=http://realredskins.com/2016/07/21/need-to-know-mccloughan-hopes-cousins-is-redskins-qb-for-a-long-time/]Need to Know: McCloughan hopes Cousins is Redskins’ QB for ‘a long time’ | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

[quote]There are plenty of Redskins fans who are losing sleep over the recent report that the Redskins may try to find a younger and cheaper alternative to Cousins if they can’t come to a long-term deal that makes financial sense for the team. One of the concerns is that this will make Cousins feel like he is unwanted by the organization.

We’ll see about that. The Redskins won’t be able to get their Plan B quarterback until next year. Nate Sudfeld may be the very rare sixth-round pick who pans out but we’re a long way from him possibly casting any sort of shadow. Colt McCoy is a journeyman backup. I’m not sure how Cousins can feel threatened at this point in time.

In addition, Scot McCloughan has praised Cousins and has expressed his desire to get a long-term contract done with him virtually every time he has spoken to the media this year (emphasis added in all quotes).[/quote]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Evilgrin;1144757]chris russell... shakes head[/quote]

MY god is he insane. This Cousins thing is a non-story.

They would rather make a 10 million dollar mistake than a 100 million dollar mistake. The tag on cousins is QB insurance, not a grand conspiracy of a personal vendetta from the owner because he still loves RG3.

Absurd.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Any chance that SM doesn't want to give Cousins 24 million a year after this season, and lets him walk and goes with Nate Sudfeld? He was a late round pick, but he looks like an NFL QB. Not saying I want this, just curious if anyone thinks its even a remote chance?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1145076]Any chance that SM doesn't want to give Cousins 24 million a year after this season, and lets him walk and goes with Nate Sudfeld? He was a late round pick, but he looks like an NFL QB. Not saying I want this, just curious if anyone thinks its even a remote chance?[/QUOTE]



No.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1145076]Any chance that SM doesn't want to give Cousins 24 million a year after this season, and lets him walk and goes with Nate Sudfeld? He was a late round pick, but he looks like an NFL QB. Not saying I want this, just curious if anyone thinks its even a remote chance?[/quote]

He ain't Vinnie

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1145076]Any chance that SM doesn't want to give Cousins 24 million a year after this season, and lets him walk and goes with Nate Sudfeld? He was a late round pick, but he looks like an NFL QB. Not saying I want this, just curious if anyone thinks its even a remote chance?[/quote]

No.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Sudfeld is a project, hard to imagine him developing too quickly, if he does at all.

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[quote=MTK;1145085]Sudfeld is a project, hard to imagine him developing too quickly, if he does at all.[/quote]

And I don't think Sudfeld has wowed anyone.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1145093]And I don't think Sudfeld has wowed anyone.[/quote]

Saw some article that said if Cousins has another good year, he will be the highest paid player in the NFL with his next contract. From backup to highest paid player or very close to it, crazy jump in 2 years.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1145100]Saw some article that said if Cousins has another good year, he will be the highest paid player in the NFL with his next contract. From backup to highest paid player or very close to it, crazy jump in 2 years.[/quote]

[I]If[/I] he has another good year he'll be worth that money, and we'll be a playoff team

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1145114]Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..[/quote]

Relax, man. Everything is fine. Cousins isn't going anywhere. SM is in control and he is the real deal as GM. Cooley is so full of shit his eyes are brown.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

lol the Skins would have to be retarded to keep a guy for $20M if they had no interest in him as the long term answer. They could have went with McCoy and signed a couple more free agents with that money.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1145114]Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..[/quote]

Was that to a long term deal this year or at the end of the year?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

If Cooley said anything like that, hard to believe someone like Florio wouldn't be all over it.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Cooley also said Freeney was coming in this week.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1144754]Potentially they could load up on skill position players and feel comfortable enough with a trent dilfer type / game manager....[/quote]

That's right you heard it hear first. Dilfer is coming out of retirement so he can be the weak link on a championship Redskins squad, all because Dan Snyder feels like being cheap towards Kirk Cousins.

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[quote=MTK;1145085]Sudfeld is a project, hard to imagine him developing too quickly, if he does at all.[/quote]

Sudfeld is a beat up, rusted old classic car right now. He's a project car. They're going to keep him in the garage for 1-3 years, invest very little in him and then make a decision, which will be:

A. QB is a hole (sorry Kirk), they've seen enough out of Sudfeld to make him a starter and give him the beaucoup bucks.

B. Hopefully raised his trade value enough that we flip him for a solid pick.

C. Cut him loose because he's a still a rusted old piece of shit not worth investing in anymore.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Kirk will get a long deal, CC just wants to be relevant again.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Sudfield will be gone in a couple of years. He won't be worth much.

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1145114]Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..[/QUOTE]



So someone of importance thinks that if Cousins goes out this year and is a top ten QB, and leads us to infinity and beyond that the Redskins do not care because they are already sure he is not coming back????
Wow.
I hope that said person is let go before Cousins. Its hard to even have this conversation because we have been in QB hell for two decades. Now we have what appears to be a potential star in the making - very early on in his career- and brass is letting Cooley know that there is almost no chance he comes back? All this before he even plays a pre season game in his first true year going into the season as the starter?

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[quote=punch it in;1145155]So someone of importance thinks that if Cousins goes out this year and is a top ten QB, and leads us to infinity and beyond that the Redskins do not care because they are already sure he is not coming back????
Wow.
I hope that said person is let go before Cousins. Its hard to even have this conversation because we have been in QB hell for two decades. Now we have what appears to be a potential star in the making - very early on in his career- and brass is letting Cooley know that there is almost no chance he comes back? All this before he even plays a pre season game in his first true year going into the season as the starter?[/quote]

I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay. But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1145171]I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay. But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets[/quote]

If the Skins get deep in the playoffs, and KC is at all part of the solution, he will sign a contract here for at least 6 year, 150 million, 70 million guaranteed. Feel free to bookmark this if you need to.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Once again, why bother giving KC $20m this year if there's little chance of him being here long term? If SM wanted to play money ball, $20m could have shored up a few other positions. And if you're ok win paying him $20m this year, why wouldn't you be ok with paying him $24m next year as long as he earns it?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1145171]I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. [B]If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay.[/B] But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets[/quote]

The highlighted quote is truly the most ridiculous thing I can remember reading on this site.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

There isn't a coach or GM in the league that would prefer a game manager over a stud QB.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1145187]The highlighted quote is truly the most ridiculous thing I can remember reading on this site.[/QUOTE]



Come on man , you never want your team going deep into the playoffs with your qb playing like a stud when you can get rid of him for a game manager and than win a super bowl. Jeez.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Come on folks with this Cousins talk...I don't get it because its simply nothing to get. Cousins will be a Skins as long as he keeps on this path he has built since entering the league. Lets enjoy this run with a decent QB.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1145193]Come on SOLID SNAKE with this Cousins talk...I don't get it because its simply nothing to get. Cousins will be a Skins as long as he keeps on this path he has built since entering the league. Lets enjoy this run with a decent QB.[/QUOTE]


Fixed it for ya.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Well played Redskins!! They put Kirk's face on the Cleveland Browns game ticket. Way to burn RG3.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1145114]Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..[/quote]

So ... here is the "1% chance" stuff about signing Cousins. It was from LaCanfora and was dealing with the chances of signing Cousins to a long-term deal after signing the franchise tender. It had/has nothing to do with signing him long-term next year:

[quote]La Canfora offered up his own projections earlier in the week in assessing [B]the odds of each team extending its franchise-tagged player before Friday’s 4 p.m. deadline. He put the Redskins’ chances of landing a deal with Kirk Cousins at one percent.[/B]
“I can remember the piece I wrote in November when they first met in Chicago and basically they told his camp, ‘You’re never going to hit the open market this offseason,'” he told Dukes.

“And even at the time, I reported then it was close to certain the Redskins would franchise this guy if they had to. And [Cousins] was already spinning it forward, knowing with his agents, once they do that, I’m going to sign it.

“And then once the thing’s signed, and the quarterback market explodes the way it did, then I think this has always been sort of the short-term endgame. And, you know, these guys haven’t had to pay big bucks to a quarterback, I mean, really ever, right?”

...

[B]“If he plays well, he’s not leaving,” La Canfora ironed out the bottom line. “They’ll have to overpay to keep him and maybe three years from now there’s some ramifications to it, but, again, I think given all that they’ve gone through at that position, I think you could sign them up for that.”[/B][/quote]

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/07/13/redskins-sleeping-giant-may-finally-be-awakening/]La Canfora: Redskins Are A Sleeping Giant « CBS DC[/url]

The concept that KC is a one-and-done player if he takes us deep into the play-offs is just beyond silly and not a point worth acknowledging much less debating. I only chime in on this b/c I saw this clip and remembered the reference to a "1% chance of resigning" with some vague allegations of who said it and when.

Said it before, will say it again: Kirk plays well, Kirk gets paid and Kirk stays. Kirk does not play well, Kirk does not get paid and Kirk goes. If he goes, it is back to the f'ing QB drawing board one more time - which would suck big giant goat testicles.