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[quote=los panda;1146452]my samsung smart tv has apps for mlb and nba, but not the nfl. i don't have nfl network but i have the nfl game pass free trial for 2 more days.

i would have streamed it directly on my smart tv but that's not possible. i would need to stream it on a separate device and run the hdmi to the tv. i only have one such device, the one i'll be using to draft tonight.

fantasy draft > 4th presaeson game.[/quote]

I refuse to do fantasy, because no matter how much work you put into it, somehow someway you will have to root for the cowboys to do well and I just can't.

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[quote=hutch17;1146453]I refuse to do fantasy, because no matter how much work you put into it, somehow someway you will have to root for the cowboys to do well and I just can't.[/quote]

but they're like their leader, romo; they put up nice numbers and you never have to worry about them winning an important game.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1146415]I really liked this Jay Gruden quote on Robert Kelley: "[He] made great cuts, had great vision, we could see that on the inside runs and some of the outside runs he had good patience, protected the ball and he’s caught the ball well. But the big thing with him is how quickly he picked up the protections. That’s not easy for a back. There is so much, they have to listen to the quarterback and the center and we change them at the line often and he’s got to be on top of his game and he’s been that.”

[I]It looks like we have another scouting find in Robert Kelley. He already looks like an experienced NFL RB to me and he's only going to get better.[/I][/quote]

I thought he did a real nice job last week.

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[quote=30gut;1146450]Everytime I think this defense can take the next step things go sideways....Gallette injury, Paea injury/underperforms, Hatcher retires, Knighton migraines.

Gonna need help from our offense to keep teams from running all over us and need help from scheme to get that pass rush.

Gonna need to play some complementary football.[/quote]

The guys you mention either all underperformed or didn't play for us at all. We ain't missing much.

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[quote=Jayroc24;1146423]Lets hope so....[/quote]

Seahawks struck gold with Thomas Rawls it looks like last year, it is about time our team got lucky with an undrafted FA becomes a legit player for us.

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[quote=30gut;1146450]Everytime I think this defense can take the next step things go sideways....Gallette injury, Paea injury/underperforms, Hatcher retires, Knighton migraines.

Gonna need help from our offense to keep teams from running all over us and need help from scheme to get that pass rush.

Gonna need to play some complementary football.[/quote]

Agree with you and 69. That's why they really are serious about fixing the run game.

None of those guys helped the team last year and all underperformed their contract.

Keim's tweet earlier today pretty much sums it up:

[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/771128893021577217[/url]

Our defensive line has a lot of guys at the same level.

Baker is the best of the bunch and is far from being able to take over a game.

I do want to throw a mea culpa out there. You posted when they signed Reyes that he was PFF's worst rated DL last year. He has certainly lived down to that so far this year. Blind sqirrel, nut, yada. . .

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[quote=skinsfan69;1146457]The guys you mention either all underperformed or didn't play for us at all. We ain't missing much.[/quote]Except for Hatcher and Knighton yeah those guys didnt bring much which was part of the point.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1146462]That's why they really are serious about fixing the run game.[/quote]It's all talk til they actually produce a good run game. But until then we'll have your excuses and snark and insider knowledge of their true intent.

I'm not a crazy person when I say Jay is pass focused. I'm not sweating the run game at all...that's your hangup. I'll be excited to see this top 10 running game it sounds like they're planning.

Truth is this team will live by our passing game and with our personnel I'm good with that.

Offense is gonna have to put the D in position to pass rush by getting the lead.

And if theyre down to signing dudes like Jenky ld try to sweet talk Hatcher out of retirement and kick the tires on migraine roast.

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[quote=30gut;1146464]It's all talk til they actually produce a good run game. But until then we'll have your excuses and snark and insider knowledge of their true intent.

I'm not a crazy person when I say Jay is pass focused. I'm not sweating the run game at all...that's your hangup. I'll be excited to see this top 10 running game it sounds like they're planning.

Truth is this team will live by our passing game and with our personnel I'm good with that.

Offense is gonna have to put the D in position to pass rush by getting the lead.

And if theyre down to signing dudes like Jenky ld try to sweet talk Hatcher out of retirement and kick the tires on migraine roast.[/quote]

Again, no specifics about why the run game is bad other than Jay is a passing coach.

[quote=DYoungJelly;1145912]Cooley gave a great breakdown of what he thinks is the problem with the run game. Basically how players aren't going through their reads fast enough and how they are being coached.

8-22-16. The first 20 minutes of hour 4.

[url=http://www.espn980.com/audio-vault/]Audio Vault | ESPN 980[/url]

Basically and Xs and Os explanation of the hesitation that was plain against ATL.[/quote]

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1146471]Again, no specifics about why the run game is bad other than Jay is a passing coach.[/quote]Lol, like u give a tinkers eff about it. If you're really that desperate to rehash old arguments knock yourself out searching through my old posts that details my thoughts from use of Compton at TE as a run tell, to repeatedly using the same players to block and fail to set the edge on outside zone over and over and over and over then stand bewildered when they can't block they still can't block the edge...Einstein said something about slamming ones head into a brick wall. All the while we have one of the best FBs in the NFL on the sideline sucking his thumb...from your pal Mike's ability to produce a better run game with less talent to Hue success with the same personnel in Cinci etc..etc..etc..it's all there in my old posts.

Like I said the run game is your hangup now, I've accepted our run game for what it is and I applaud Jays passing game. I don't care about the form success takes only the function of winning.

You like that? You like that!

lol, I do hope Kelley gets to the bench early tonight.

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[quote=30gut;1146472]Lol, like u give a tinkers eff about it. If you're really that desperate to rehash old arguments knock yourself out searching through my old posts that details my thoughts from use of Compton at TE as a run tell, to repeatedly using the same players to block and fail to set the edge on outside zone over and over and over and over then stand bewildered when they can't block they still can't block the edge...Einstein said something about slamming ones head into a brick wall. All the while we have one of the best FBs in the NFL on the sideline sucking his thumb...from your pal Mike's ability to produce a better run game with less talent to Hue success with the same personnel in Cinci etc..etc..etc..it's all there in my old posts.

Like I said the run game is your hangup now, I've accepted our run game for what it is and I applaud Jays passing game. I don't care about the form success takes only the function of winning.

You like that? You like that!

lol, I do hope Kelley gets to the bench early tonight.[/quote]


Oh, BTW Perry Riley isn't pushing Will Compton for playing time.

Marcel Jensen and Derek Carrier weren't on a roster before they were signed here. Our depth was terrible on the edge.

That being said, week after week Cooley would break down film and it would always be a different break down on every play. There wasn't a consistent breakdown or fail. Different players failed on different plays. No offense, but I like Cooley's film break downs better than your generic platitudes.

In the Atlanta pre-season game it was the same thing as last year when our run game struggled. There were different break downs each play. If one player was consistently breaking down Callahan would have benched him and next man up.

The one theme from the Atlanta game that was obviously coaching from the outside looking in was not firing off the ball. The entire O line was standing up and pausing rather than firing off the ball.

Fire Callahan and hire Bugle. Our line should be able to fall forward for 4 yards if they come off the ball. We don't need 13 running schemes that makes our line think at the snap, half that and go forward.

I also concede, Perry was a thumper, he was just always going in the wrong direction.

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[quote=MTK;1146411]He's still on pup, he says he's ready, team says he's close.[/quote]

Oh my bad, I read he was good to go.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1146496]Oh my bad, I read he was good to go.[/quote]
That is because Doctson Tweeted it is GO time but not according to the Skins. I thought the same, silly us.

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I heard he's all in for week one.

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[quote=MTK;1146498]I heard he's all in for week one.[/quote]

hmmmm where have I heard this before...???

[IMG]https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/files/2013/02/rgiiiblowup213b.jpg&w=1484[/IMG]

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did you guys see this?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/01/washington-defensive-workbooks-found-in-a-dumpster/]Washington defensive workbooks found in a dumpster | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=los panda;1146518]did you guys see this?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/01/washington-defensive-workbooks-found-in-a-dumpster/]Washington defensive workbooks found in a dumpster | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Only pictures I saw are just the cover, anyone could have made it, could it be fake?

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1146526]Only pictures I saw are just the cover, anyone could have made it, could it be fake?[/quote]

this whole website could be fake for all we know.

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Redskins C Kory Lichtensteiger has accepted a $1.25 million pay cut, dropping his salary from $3.5 million to $2.25 million.

The 31-year-old has two years left on his deal and was likely on the chopping block if he didn't accept the slash in pay. The Redskins have been trying to find his replacement, acquiring ex-Patriots C Bryan Stork only to see him fail his physical. Spencer Long and Josh LeRibeus have also been tried at center.

basically your not living up to your contract and your terrible

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[quote=Chico23231;1146548]Redskins C Kory Lichtensteiger has accepted a $1.25 million pay cut, dropping his salary from $3.5 million to $2.25 million.

The 31-year-old has two years left on his deal and was likely on the chopping block if he didn't accept the slash in pay. The Redskins have been trying to find his replacement, acquiring ex-Patriots C Bryan Stork only to see him fail his physical. Spencer Long and Josh LeRibeus have also been tried at center.

basically your not living up to your contract and your terrible[/quote]

if my math is right, based on schneed's last update; we now have about $20m in cap room.

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john sullivan is still hanging out there, he just turned 31 last month. he's only missed 3 games/starts since 2009.

i'd bring him in for a look, we'd still have kory if things didn't pan out. i think there's much more to gained than there is to be lost.

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[quote=los panda;1146553]john sullivan is still hanging out there, he just turned 31 last month. he's only missed 3 games/starts since 2009.

i'd bring him in for a look, we'd still have kory if things didn't pan out. i think there's much more to gained than there is to be lost.[/quote]

actually Sullivan missed all of the 2015 season with a back injury

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[quote=Irrefutable;1146555]actually Sullivan missed all of the 2015 season with a back injury[/quote]

oh man, it was right in front of me too. no coffee yet, pardon my lapse.

this obviously changes my original opinion. no wonder he isn't garnishing tons of attention.

thanks for shining light on my darkness!

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I find it interesting that Jay Gruden said that he was happy with the center position and that he didn't see the need to bring in Bryan Stork, yet now we have Kory taking a pay cut to keep his job. There is either a clear difference of opinion about the C position between Jay and Scot, or Jay was just going a little overboard polishing his "player's coach" image.

Also, what is the point of demanding that Kory take a pay cut? It won't make him play any better and it could mess with his mind and make him play worse. The pay cut may also be a signal that Kory is no longer the starter at C.

In my ignorant opinion, the Skins need to name Long the starting C and start Lauvao at LG to put the best OL on the field. Kory just can't hold up against the bull rush and the inside pressure needs to be reduced.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1146559]I find it interesting that Jay Gruden said that he was happy with the center position and that he didn't see the need to bring in Bryan Stork, yet now we have Kory taking a pay cut to keep his job. There is either a clear difference of opinion about the C position between Jay and Scot, or Jay was just going a little overboard polishing his "player's coach" image.

Also, what is the point of demanding that Kory take a pay cut? It won't make him play any better and it could mess with his mind and make him play worse. The pay cut may also be a signal that Kory is no longer the starter at C.

In my ignorant opinion, [B]the Skins need to name Long the starting C and start Lauvao at LG to put the best OL on the field. Kory just can't hold up against the bull rush and the inside pressure needs to be reduced[/B].[/quote]

Yeah, I gotta go with you here...

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Gruden talking up our current centers is nothing more than coach speak.

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[QUOTE=los panda;1146556]oh man, it was right in front of me too. no coffee yet, pardon my lapse.



this obviously changes my original opinion. no wonder he isn't garnishing tons of attention.



thanks for shining light on my darkness![/QUOTE]



Speaking of coffee. I busted out my new Skins to go mug today. However I still cant make a decent pot of Joe. Its either see through week, or caffeine poisoning strong. Blah.

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Maybe he's taking a pay cut b/c he's gonna eventually (soon) be a back-up player to a G-to-G combo of Spencer, Kouandjo and Luavao

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1146573]Speaking of coffee. I busted out my new Skins to go mug today. However I still cant make a decent pot of Joe. Its either see through week, or caffeine poisoning strong. Blah.[/QUOTE]


Start off with fresh roasted beans, grind your own right before brewing and get a quality coffee maker (check out a Chemex or Aeropress). I'm a bit of a coffee nerd. Just do a google search to nail down proper ratios of water to coffee and water temps.

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[quote=MTK;1146576]Start off with fresh roasted beans, grind your own right before brewing and get a quality coffee maker (check out a Chemex or Aeropress). I'm a bit of a coffee nerd. Just do a google search to nail down proper ratios of water to coffee and water temps.[/quote]

matty, what would you say is the most bang-for-your-buck coffe maker under $50? i have a cheap mr. coffee one right now that i am not thrilled w.

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[QUOTE=los panda;1146577]matty, what would you say is the most bang-for-your-buck coffe maker under $50? i have a cheap mr. coffee one right now that i am not thrilled w.[/QUOTE]



Me too

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[QUOTE=MTK;1146576]Start off with fresh roasted beans, grind your own right before brewing and get a quality coffee maker (check out a Chemex or Aeropress). I'm a bit of a coffee nerd. Just do a google search to nail down proper ratios of water to coffee and water temps.[/QUOTE]



The time factor is a problem but im thinking at least weekends could be better. Thanks for the tip. Gonna look into this.

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From what I read Kory l's contract was changed in that he will make the same amount, but 1.25 mil will now be incentive based. He must start all 16 games. With the incentives met, he won't lose any money. It would work out to the same amount.

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[QUOTE=los panda;1146577]matty, what would you say is the most bang-for-your-buck coffe maker under $50? i have a cheap mr. coffee one right now that i am not thrilled w.[/QUOTE]



The Aeropress is about $30 on Amazon, only downfall is it makes a single cup at a time. But it's super easy to use and it makes great coffee.

Really though the key is fresh beans and grind them yourself. That alone will make a big difference.

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Paea is reunited with RG3, signed with the Browns.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1146589]Paea is reunited with RG3, signed with the Browns.[/quote]

lotta ex skins on the Falcons and the browns...I don't think either one of those franchises are going anywhere fast.

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Titans releasing Sankey, this is for those who want another RB not in our roster.

Was first RB drafted in 2014 (54th overall), ahead of Jeremy Hill, Carlos Hyde and Devonta Freeman.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1146596]Titans releasing Sankey, this is for those who want another RB not in our roster.

Was first RB drafted in 2014 (54th overall), ahead of Jeremy Hill, Carlos Hyde and Devonta Freeman.[/quote]

no thanks.

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Can we focus on coffee people? If you want to talk about football join a Redskins chat group site. I recommend the Warpath.

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Coffee, ruebens and politics is what we're all about