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[quote=HailGreen28;1190878]See, crap like all this is why Pence tries to avoid putting himself in any compromising position with women, long before #metoo. (and still gets blasted by the Left for that) Literally damned if you do, damned if you don't, by the leftist media.

(edit: Male school teachers have had to work in a similar fashion, for example don't be in a closed room with a female student alone, again long before #metoo. I imagine it happens elsewhere. And I've been told the emphasis is it's not the girls fault, it's bad teachers that have taken advantage of girls before, and less frequently some girls have made false accusations before. So best to avoid that kind of situation entirely.)[/quote]
This has nothing to do with what I was responding to in Mooby's post. Matty is right,he is just fucking weird.Pence wants women back to the way they where in the 30's and 40's.........................fuck that.

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A little off-topic, but where I work is having an Equality Gala tomorrow night which is always a blast, but they are "marrying George Washington and Robert E. Lee" and this group called the flaggers got wind of this and now on their Facebook page they're saying, "Ya'll better donate bail money, because someone is going to jail tomorrow night."

Sigh. I think the wedding wasn't "necessary", but now an event that we enjoy and like the cause might turn into something like a mini-Charlottesville. 60,000 people like that flagger page and there's a LOTTTT of violent remarks on it.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1190890]"Averts his gaze whenever women are present"?

Citation needed.

Again, Pence does his best to avoid crap like this, and still gets all kinds of heat for it from the left. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

And "what women are allowed to do with their bodies", that's a derail of this convo.[/quote]

Jesus fucking christ, you are taking this too seriously. He's a prude. Citation needed? Go find your own fucking citations. I dislike him because he wants to outlaw abortions, which I strongly disagree with. If he wants to save lives start with the 7 billion existing ones on Earth already.

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Pence is a fucking loon!


[IMG]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/191/698/4c2.jpg[/IMG]




and..........

[IMG]https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2tJOLuyxhDQ/WVCBJ4kTimI/AAAAAAABOvY/CEAjl9aQWSUWg7E6vr_aV95xyS7O_ATbACLcBGAs/s1600/images-3.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=MTK;1190898]Pence is just fucking weird[/quote]How so?

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[quote=Giantone;1191012]Pence is a fucking loon!

(snip bs)

][/quote]Stop lying, giantone


[URL="https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-pence-supports-electroshock-gay-conversion-therapy/"]https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-pence-supports-electroshock-gay-conversion-therapy/[/URL]

"So, it’s true that Mike Pence has been a vocal opponent of gay rights. It’s also true that referred to “institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior” in a 2000 campaign statement. However, “change their sexual behavior” is a broad term that could mean a number of different things, and we haven’t found any instances of Pence saying on the record that he supports gay conversion therapy or electroshock gay conversion therapy."

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1191065]How so?[/QUOTE]


Seriously?

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[quote=Giantone;1190904]This has nothing to do with what I was responding to in Mooby's post. Matty is right,he is just fucking weird.Pence wants women back to the way they where in the 30's and 40's.........................fuck that.[/quote]BS. Here is the exchange:

[quote]
[QUOTE=mooby;1190863]The code says you can sin all you want, you just need to repent Matty. As long as Trump seeks forgiveness in the eyes of the Lord it's all good. Besides, the good Lord blessed Stormy Daniels with a huge set of knockers, who wouldn't be tempted by those?[/quote]
[quote=Giantone;1190868]Pence?:D[/quote]
[quote=HailGreen28;1190878]See, crap like all this is why Pence tries to avoid putting himself in any compromising position with women, long before #metoo....(snip) [/quote]
[/QUOTE]

Your post was a dig at how Pence handles himself with women, regardless how you take your post. Which is exactly what I replied to.

Citation needed on Pence "wants women back to the way they where in the 30's and 40's". You've been caught in one lie already this page.

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[quote=MTK;1191067]Seriously?[/quote]Seriously. So far there's been nothing but strawmanning or outright lies for character attacks. On a guy who DOESN'T do the crap Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and Harvey Weinstien did.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1191069]Seriously. So far there's been nothing but strawmanning or outright lies for character attacks. On a guy who DOESN'T do the crap Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and Harvey Weinstien did.[/QUOTE]


Build a case as to why you think he’s normal

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[quote=MTK;1191070]Build a case as to why you think he’s normal[/quote]I don't see any indication he's weird. Well, anybody weirder than people including me who say... are on boards like this.

Pence doesn't look weird, he's married longterm, with kids, put him in a lineup with Trump, Pelosi, and Schumer, and he looks like the most likable normal person.

You did make the original assertion he was weird, Matty. I've proven a negative as much as possible, but the burden of proof is really on you to prove he is weird.

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I thought his views on women were enough to label him weird, so how about this

[url]https://news.avclub.com/donald-trump-s-running-mate-is-apparently-a-bit-of-a-fi-1798249440[/url]

Oh and he’s an evangelical, weird

He calls his wife Mother, really weird

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Mike Pence...............,he's an ass!


[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/think-trump-is-scary-check-out-mike-pence-on-the-issues_us_57f137d5e4b095bd896a11db[/url]



[url=http://www.upworthy.com/20-things-mike-pence-did-while-you-werent-looking-and-why-it-matters]20 things Mike Pence did while you weren't looking — and why it matters.[/url]


[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-beliefs-about-abortion-gay-marriage-women-reporters-2017-6#pence-didnt-want-women-serving-in-the-military-he-wrote-in-a-1999-op-ed-that-mulan-was-liberal-propaganda-and-proof-that-women-in-the-military-doesnt-work-referring-to-her-love-interest-in-another-soldier-1]Ten things to know about Mike Pence - Business Insider[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1191091]I thought his views on women were enough to label him weird, so how about this

[url]https://news.avclub.com/donald-trump-s-running-mate-is-apparently-a-bit-of-a-fi-1798249440[/url][/quote]

Pence makes a good point about fraternization, ironically enough, in Mulan. It's something the military has issues with today. I disagree about banning women from all military role, but what specifically do you find weird about that link?

[quote=MTK;1191091]Oh and he’s an evangelical, weird[/quote]

I find some atheists weirder than some evangelicals, go figure. You're going to have to go further in describing what you find weird about Mike Pence specifically. Looking at the breathless hyperventilating leftist criticism about what Pence says vs what Oprah says about talking to God, is illuminating in itself. LOL. Do you consider Oprah weird?

[quote=MTK;1191091]He calls his wife Mother, really weird[/quote]

YMMV. For example, when you had kids, or knew someone with kids, you actually mean to tell me mothers weren't referred to as Mom and fathers as Dad or such, by spouses, when with the kids? Wow, if so.

The norm is eastern North Carolina is to still do that like say discussing family business with the kids even after they grow up. Most people seem to drop it in most cases as the kids get older. But OTOH grandmothers are frequently called "Granny" or "Mema" or such by all family, even among mixed company. And that's kinda cool.

Looking at articles that again breathlessly spin Pence's behavior as "weird", read the comments below where available, apparently the custom of spouses still calling each other Mom Dad or similar a lot longer than I described, is a fairly common.

If critics of Pence don't at least understand this custom, they are the weird ones. Or maybe they are just psychopaths that never had families of their own.

But of course the real reason lefties hyperventilates and calls Pence weird over this stuff is simple. This is the toxicity in politics, this time from the Left, that ruins so much.

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[quote=Giantone;1191125]Mike Pence...............,he's an ass!


[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/think-trump-is-scary-check-out-mike-pence-on-the-issues_us_57f137d5e4b095bd896a11db[/url]



[url=http://www.upworthy.com/20-things-mike-pence-did-while-you-werent-looking-and-why-it-matters]20 things Mike Pence did while you weren't looking — and why it matters.[/url]


[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-beliefs-about-abortion-gay-marriage-women-reporters-2017-6#pence-didnt-want-women-serving-in-the-military-he-wrote-in-a-1999-op-ed-that-mulan-was-liberal-propaganda-and-proof-that-women-in-the-military-doesnt-work-referring-to-her-love-interest-in-another-soldier-1]Ten things to know about Mike Pence - Business Insider[/url][/quote]Giantone, you basically posted three articles of Gish Gallop, more smear and strawmanning as usual. How about we slow down our convo, at least until mine with Matty is done.

Let's start with this link you posted earlier:

[quote=HailGreen28;1191066]Stop lying, giantone

[IMG]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/191/698/4c2.jpg[/IMG]


[URL="https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-pence-supports-electroshock-gay-conversion-therapy/"]https://www.truthorfiction.com/mike-pence-supports-electroshock-gay-conversion-therapy/[/URL]

"So, it’s true that Mike Pence has been a vocal opponent of gay rights. It’s also true that referred to “institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior” in a 2000 campaign statement. However, “change their sexual behavior” is a broad term that could mean a number of different things, and we haven’t found any instances of Pence saying on the record that he supports gay conversion therapy or electroshock gay conversion therapy."[/quote]Do you agree now that the link you posted there was BS, or do we need to go into this in more detail first?

When is Enough ,Enough?
 

One man’s weirdo is another man’s normal I guess. Pence is fucking weird, period.

Anytime someone tries to sell themselves as being super moral/family values shit it usually means they’re creeps.

And yeah Oprah is definitely weird too

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[quote=HailGreen28;1191127]Giantone, you basically posted three articles of Gish Gallop, more smear and strawmanning as usual. How about we slow down our convo, at least until mine with Matty is done.

Let's start with this link you posted earlier:

Do you agree now that the link you posted there was BS, or do we need to go into this in more detail first?[/quote]
Read the links I posted ,no I won't call it BS, maybe it's spun a little but he believes in it.........get real.


Again you're spinning to make yourself feel good and that's great for you but the truth is there in the links.



This is not made up....


[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-beliefs-about-abortion-gay-marriage-women-reporters-2017-6#in-2000-pence-wrote-an-op-ed-in-which-he-said-smoking-doesnt-kill-the-article-resurfaced-during-the-2016-election-partly-because-of-pences-seemingly-confusing-claims-he-said-in-that-same-op-ed-smoking-is-not-good-for-you-2]Ten things to know about Mike Pence - Business Insider[/url]



"While running for Congress in 2000, Pence wrote on his website that money funding research for HIV/AIDS should be moved to fund conversion therapy, "which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."


Did he say electrical ,no, no he did not. Yet that was what he was talking about ,deny if you want but he is a loon!


The GOP in Indiana is ....is in super correction mode.

[url]https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/09/pence-gone-fellow-republicans-undo-his-work/97699694/[/url]

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Conversion therapy...

#facepalm

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[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html[/url]

So is it fake news or FBI Democrats getting desperate? Or maybe the deep state is panicking. Wonder which judge they had to bribe to authorize warrants?

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[quote=mooby;1192290][url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html[/url]

So is it fake news or FBI Democrats getting desperate? Or maybe the deep state is panicking. Wonder which judge they had to bribe to authorize warrants?[/quote]

So you have a no problem with a lawyer making payoffs that might very well come from campaign contributions to cover up sexual misbehaviour by a presidential candidate? Trumps team is dirty as hell,just like their boss.

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Trump sure as hell doesn't act like an innocent man.......................



[url]https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/attorney-federal-agents-seize-documents-trump-lawyer-201704919--politics.html[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1192292]So you have a no problem with a lawyer making payoffs that might very well come from campaign contributions to cover up sexual misbehaviour by a presidential candidate? Trumps team is dirty as hell,just like their boss.[/quote]

Out of everything he's done, paying off a pornstar is the least of my issues. However, if it is the thing that brings him down I don't have a problem with it. That assumes he used campaign funds to pay her off.

S/N the whole "I paid you 130k to say nothing, so by saying something happened you're violating the agreement that nothing happened which is why I paid you 130k, so now I'm suing for 20 mil for violating the agreement which was made using fake names and my client didn't even sign" shitshow is hilarious IMO. Not definitively sure, I think it varies state-to-state, but those hush-hush agreements aren't always legally binding. Will be interesting to see how it plays out, but even if he did use campaign funds I don't think it will get much play.

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[quote=mooby;1192296]Out of everything he's done, paying off a pornstar is the least of my issues. However, if it is the thing that brings him down I don't have a problem with it. That assumes he used campaign funds to pay her off.

S/N the whole "I paid you 130k to say nothing, so by saying something happened you're violating the agreement that nothing happened which is why I paid you 130k, so now I'm suing for 20 mil for violating the agreement which was made using fake names and my client didn't even sign" shitshow is hilarious IMO. Not definitively sure, I think it varies state-to-state, but those hush-hush agreements aren't always legally bi/11nding. Will be interesting to see how it plays out, but even if he did use campaign funds I don't think it will get much play.[/quote]



The pornstar thing isn't big to me becuase almost every president has had someone on the side.Yet trump was always "holyer than thou"and that just piss's me off.He has always been a skunk but when he jumps on Bill Clinton and others for doing what he and his son does ....it's BS.
Thing is trump should shut up about all of it and he can't he just keeps talking and tweeting and looking like an ass that he is .
He calls the raid an "attack on America" ..what the fuck? Shumer said it best, Pearl Harbor was an attack on America, 9/11 was an attack on America .............raiding trumps dirty Lawyers office is not an attack on America. Lets not forget pretty much the search warrants and everything else were played out by trump appointed people.

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[quote=Giantone;1192337]The pornstar thing isn't big to me becuase almost every president has had someone on the side.Yet trump was always "holyer than thou"and that just piss's me off.He has always been a skunk but when he jumps on Bill Clinton and others for doing what he and his son does ....it's BS.
[B]Thing is trump should shut up about all of it[/B] and he can't he just keeps talking and tweeting and looking like an ass that he is .
He calls the raid an "attack on America" ..what the fuck? Shumer said it best, Pearl Harbor was an attack on America, 9/11 was an attack on America .............raiding trumps dirty Lawyers office is not an attack on America. Lets not forget pretty much the search warrants and everything else were played out by trump appointed people.[/quote]

That's hilarious, only because you know that would never happen. He has to have some personality disorder to say the things he does. The more he talks, the higher the chances of incriminating himself is.

S/N thank the justice gods Rosenstein isn't another yes man for Trump. The investigation would be nonexistent if he had actually picked a proper yes man for the top two Justice Dept. jobs.

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[quote=mooby;1192360]That's hilarious, only because you know that would never happen. He has to have some personality disorder to say the things he does. The more he talks, the higher the chances of incriminating himself is.

S/N thank the justice gods Rosenstein isn't another yes man for Trump. The investigation would be nonexistent if he had actually picked a proper yes man for the top two Justice Dept. jobs.[/quote]

Now Nunes wants to "impeach" Rosenstein. What a shit show this is.


[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-impeach_us_5acda430e4b06a6aac8cf6ad[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1192372]Now Nunes wants to "impeach" Rosenstein. What a shit show this is.


[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-impeach_us_5acda430e4b06a6aac8cf6ad[/url][/quote]

Nunes is the guy personally responsible for carrying Trump's saggy ballsack everywhere he goes. Even Sessions didn't ride Trump's coattails that hard in the beginning.

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Trump/Kanye 2020

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[quote=Chico23231;1193020]Trump/Kanye 2020[/quote]

Sounds about right at this rate.

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[quote=mooby;1193334]Sounds about right at this rate.[/quote]

I find this all hilarious...first the fact Kanye thought this out and followed through...then the sitting President actually responds "Very Cool" and the best of all is the backlash on both sides...first old white people now embracing Kanye as relevant somehow in their life and then next reading the idiots on twitter actually getting upset with their typical faux outrage...both are being played.

Lets be completely honest, personality wise...Trump and Kanye are very similar people. Very successful, Narcissism on levels unseen within the human species, attention needing ego based on trophy collecting ideology, Smart not intelligent, etc.

But Im really shocked by weak minded individuals who don't understand, Kanye knows exactly what he is doing and they feed into it.

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So does the Trump administration get any credit for this headline?

[URL=https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-makes-history-crossing-border-talks-south-korean-president-070249059.html]North and South Korea agree to get rid of nuclear weapons in historic talks[/URL]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1193391]So does the Trump administration get any credit for this headline?

[URL="https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-makes-history-crossing-border-talks-south-korean-president-070249059.html"]North and South Korea agree to get rid of nuclear weapons in historic talks[/URL][/quote]

Congratulations to Trump, for making world peace possible. Now if only he could be slightly less racist against Muslims/Latinos...

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1193391]So does the Trump administration get any credit for this headline?

[URL=https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-makes-history-crossing-border-talks-south-korean-president-070249059.html]North and South Korea agree to get rid of nuclear weapons in historic talks[/URL][/quote]

No, South Korea and China should . They could control the lunatic over there......we can't control the one over here.

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amazing

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[quote=Giantone;1193413]No, South Korea and China should . They could control the lunatic over there......we can't control the one over here.[/quote]

:doh:

South Korea president has already said the trump administration has played a major part in pressuring both North Korea And China into talks and ending the nuclear program.

Another feather in the cap of the trump administration when it comes to foreign policy.

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[quote=Chico23231;1193417]:doh:

South Korea president has already said the trump administration has played a major part in pressuring both North Korea And China into talks and ending the nuclear program.

Another feather in the cap of the trump administration when it comes to foreign policy.[/quote]

...............No, the South Korean President is being diplomatic .........trump should try it sometime.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1193391]So does the Trump administration get any credit for this headline?

[URL=https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-makes-history-crossing-border-talks-south-korean-president-070249059.html]North and South Korea agree to get rid of nuclear weapons in historic talks[/URL][/quote]



Probably has more to do with this.

[url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-nuclear-test-site-mantapsan-mountain-collapse-unusable-kim-jong-un/[/url]

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1193894]Probably has more to do with this.

[url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-nuclear-test-site-mantapsan-mountain-collapse-unusable-kim-jong-un/[/url][/QUOTE]Well, that's like saying the fall of the Soviet union was because they went broke. While accurate, they went broke because of Reagan's push. My guess is kim jung pushed his research beyond his ability because of trump's pushing him. And in effect brought a backlash that ended his research.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1193895]Well, that's like saying the fall of the Soviet union was because they went broke. While accurate, they went broke because of Reagan's push. My guess is kim jung pushed his research beyond his ability because of trump's pushing him. And in effect brought a backlash that ended his research.[/quote]

So we should be thankful Trump got into a twitter war with North Korea? :laughing-

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[quote=Giantone;1193457]...............No, the South Korean President is being diplomatic .........trump should try it sometime.[/quote]

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/world/asia/trump-nobel-peace-prize-korea.html[/url]

"A Trump Nobel Peace Prize? South Korea’s Leader Likes the Idea"

Nobel Peace Prize....Co-owner Trump and Moon?

Liberals Snowflakes would crumble

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1193951][url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/world/asia/trump-nobel-peace-prize-korea.html[/url]



"A Trump Nobel Peace Prize? South Korea’s Leader Likes the Idea"



Nobel Peace Prize....Co-owner Trump and Moon?



Liberals Snowflakes would crumble[/QUOTE]



Yeah and as soon as the dipshit calls him names again on twitter and he starts rifling off some more missiles we will just ask for it back. This has happened before under other presidents. Its just that they didn’t start taking victory laps day one.


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