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[url]https://amp.si.com/nfl/2019/09/30/should-washington-name-dwayne-haskins-starting-qb[/url]

Interesting read about Haskins debut. I put it in this thread because of the heavy discussion of Jay Gruden and the perception of him and his offense. Some of us may disagree with the analysis

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Possible HCs:

Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy .. not sure how much experience he has to be a HC, 1st year as OC

Saints TE coach Campbell - HC for a few games as an interim HC w dolphins, Sean Payton disciple

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Jay is not getting fired because he is Snyders whipping boy much like Garret is Jerruhhs.
Owners like Dan and Jerry are making roster and possibly game plan decisions to some degree.

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[quote=SunnySide;1232402]Possible HCs:

Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy .. not sure how much experience he has to be a HC, 1st year as OC

Saints TE coach Campbell - HC for a few games as an interim HC w dolphins, Sean Payton disciple[/quote]

Richard from Dallas

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232420]Richard from Dallas[/quote]

I've felt it was a bad thing to get a player or coach from the cowboys. Maybe because I hate the cowboys.....

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Do these buffoons still have jobs?

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[QUOTE=Meks;1232437]Do these buffoons still have jobs?[/QUOTE]Unbelievably, yes.

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Seriously, it's one thing to say, "It's too disruptive to can Jay after 4 games." But Manusky? What do we possibly lose there? Addition by subtraction, folks. Make it happen. I have no doubt -- none -- that any of the defensive assistants (and perhaps a few concession stand workers at FedEx) could do a better job coaching our D.

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I’d rather see Bruce Allen fired before Manusky. I think Bruce Allen needs to be the first to go. Put a REAL GM in his place and let him make decisions on the coaching staff.


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[QUOTE=calia;1232459]Seriously, it's one thing to say, "It's too disruptive to can Jay after 4 games." But Manusky? What do we possibly lose there? Addition by subtraction, folks. Make it happen. I have no doubt -- none -- that any of the defensive assistants (and perhaps a few concession stand workers at FedEx) could do a better job coaching our D.[/QUOTE]



It is mind numbing how bad someone can be at their job....than get another one and be so bad again....and than get another one and be so bad again and still not lose it. He must give one hell of an interview Ill give him that....

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I have a feeling Jay's going to start Colt. He keeps mentioning how he knows the system... major sigh...

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Yep. He is dying to get Colt a shot.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1232503]I have a feeling Jay's going to start Colt. He keeps mentioning how he knows the system... major sigh...[/quote]

He wants to start the QB with the most experience with his system than throw Haskins and get him killed.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1232504]Yep. He is dying to get Colt a shot.[/QUOTE]He really is. Makes zero sense for him to be so devoted to a guy who has done nearly nothing for his team.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232507]He really is. Makes zero sense for him to be so devoted to a guy who has done nearly nothing for his team.

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Nearly nothing? Absolutely nothing lol

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[QUOTE=Meks;1232508]Nearly nothing? Absolutely nothing lol[/QUOTE]He beat the cowboys on a monday night. Thats somethin

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232509]He beat the cowboys on a monday night. Thats somethin

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If you knew you were leaving at the end of the season and you felt bad for Colt because he broke his leg before he ever got an opportunity to prove himself last year, you'd probably seriously consider it too.

I ain't saying it's the right decision but I can see the logic behind it. Or maybe he just wants to keep Bill B. guessing because we need all the competitive advantage we can get.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1232510]If you knew you were leaving at the end of the season and you felt bad for Colt because he broke his leg before he ever got an opportunity to prove himself last year, you'd probably seriously consider it too.



I ain't saying it's the right decision but I can see the logic behind it. Or maybe he just wants to keep Bill B. guessing because we need all the competitive advantage we can get.[/QUOTE]Maybe Colt talked Gruden into staying and now Gruden wants to get revenge by putting Colt in against the Patriots

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232509]He beat the cowboys on a monday night. Thats somethin

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Hmm point taken

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232511]Maybe Colt talked Gruden into staying and now Gruden wants to get revenge by putting Colt in against the Patriots

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You're gonna be shittin' your pants when Indian-brave or w/e his name is is proven right and we beat the Pats with Colt fuckin' McCoy at the helm lol.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232507]He really is. Makes zero sense for him to be so devoted to a guy who has done nearly nothing for his team.

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He seems to like Colt and how he fits the system. My guess is this is a loyalty move to get Colt to follow Jay wherever he goes next year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232509]He beat the cowboys on a monday night. Thats somethin

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That was about his only shinning moment in his whole career.

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I can not believe that Manusky is still the DC. If the players hadn't rebelled before now, having the head coach throw the players under the bus for a DC that they know is the problem, guarantees this defense is doomed.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232533]I can not believe that Manusky is still the DC. If the players hadn't rebelled before now, having the head coach throw the players under the bus for a DC that they know is the problem, guarantees this defense is doomed.

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When the 49ers canned Manusky when Harbaugh took over the defense went from 16th to 2nd from one year to the next with pretty much the same players on the field. What does that tell you?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232533]I can not believe that Manusky is still the DC. If the players hadn't rebelled before now, having the head coach throw the players under the bus for a DC that they know is the problem, guarantees this defense is doomed.

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I wonder if it's because they have no real good backup option to replace him.

Everything we hear indicates Manusky/Tomsula is a package deal, if they fire Manusky Tomsula will walk too. So what are your other options? Rob Ryan? or Ray Horton? Maybe they don't trust Horton to do a good job, and obviously Rob Ryan is like the Manusky of position coaches.

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How the fuck has Jay not been fired yet?? Unreal man, I guess it'll take a 0-16 fucking season

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232541]How the fuck has Jay not been fired yet?? Unreal man, I guess it'll take a 0-16 fucking season[/quote]

If I'm gonna be honest I was pretty swayed by the "firing Gruden changes nothing this season" argument all the writers are making.

But Manusky? Fuck that bitch, I want blood.

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[quote=mooby;1232544]If I'm gonna be honest I was pretty swayed by the "firing Gruden changes nothing this season" argument all the writers are making.

But Manusky? Fuck that bitch, I want blood.[/quote]

Both need to be gone, I'm not even watching the Pats game f that shit

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Gruden isn't going anywhere until after the season. The guys on the staff can't even get their position groups right. And you want them to take over? C'mon. The wheels will really fall off. Just have to stick it out until the season is over and I think Snyder knows that.

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When Gruden goes, it will be bye week or after game 16. They can sack Manusky tomorrow as the D can't get any worse, but they need Gruden to at least try to hold things together until they have time to weigh up their options. If he's lost the locker room, then he has to go in bye week but I can see him lasting out the season. My question is,who do you replace him with in either situation? Do we promote from within to see out the season or is there someone sat at home that can come in and get us going in the right direction?

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1232548]When Gruden goes, it will be bye week or after game 16. They can sack Manusky tomorrow as the D can't get any worse, but they need Gruden to at least try to hold things together until they have time to weigh up their options. If he's lost the locker room, then he has to go in bye week but I can see him lasting out the season. My question is,who do you replace him with in either situation? Do we promote from within to see out the season or is there someone sat at home that can come in and get us going in the right direction?[/quote]

Callahan taking over as interim HC is my guess. OConnell calls the O plays. Make Ryan or Tomsula the interim D Coord.

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So, what happens if he starts McCoy and they destroy the Patriots?


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1232554]So, what happens if he starts McCoy and they destroy the Patriots?


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You can change your name to 6superbowls4wins.

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I'm gonna give Haskins a pass. Because…I don't know if Daniel Jones would've looked good in Washington, or anybody, because nobody's coaching there. There's no conditioning, there's no coaching. They're an expansion team."

Michael Lombardi

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232531]That was about his only shinning moment in his whole career.[/quote]

People forget how amazing our defense played that night too. Bashaud Breeland basically took a prime Dez Bryant completely out of the game

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232558]I'm gonna give Haskins a pass. Because…I don't know if Daniel Jones would've looked good in Washington, or anybody, because nobody's coaching there. There's no conditioning, there's no coaching. They're an expansion team."

Michael Lombardi[/quote]

lol...ouch

This guy has been talking a lot of shit lately. He obviously didn’t get the Indian-brave tarot card reading...this is the weekend we make our
Super bowl move...

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I say promote from within asap, our best option, so at least we get a look at what they bring to the table.

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1232554]So, what happens if he starts McCoy and they destroy the Patriots?


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We already have an Indian Brave running around posing these absurd questions.

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[quote=punch it in;1232567]We already have an Indian Brave running around posing these absurd questions.[/quote]

:lol:

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Out of the 6 remaining 0-4 teams:

Arizona: First year Head Coach
Denver: First year head coach
Miami: First year Head Coach
Cincinnati: First year Head Coach
NYJ: Coach in his first year there

Redskins: 6th year Head Coach.