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[quote=Tennskinsfan;1245043]If we can pick up a quality TE in free agency like Hopper or Henry then I would think it would be on the smarter spectrum to not make a splash in the WR market this season. Give Haskins another pass catcher to continue to build his confidence and move us down the field. Spend some money on a quality CB (especially with the Dunbar drama) like Bradberry and/or Byron. Extend our Guards and look to add some depth to our RT spot, I like Viatai from the eagles. He’s Shown promise and give him a chance to overtake Moses starting spot. If at this point there’s enough left to scrap a multi year deal to Tre Boston go for it.

With a similar FA period to what is above I would then like to see us. Take Young (baring an unlikely RG3 deal) and then come back in the 3 and start to fill in some of the remaining gaps WR, CB, LB, TE etc.

Spend the majority of offseason and solidify our defense. Then go into next offseason with an offensive mindset. And work on closing more gaps. There are no glaring holes that 1 or 2 FA pickup will make up Super Bowl ready. Work to our strengths and backfill[/quote]

Agreed - good post! Getting the best TE in the market I think will help Haskin's much more than spending upwards of $20 mill/yr for the best WR. Harmon is a decent WR #2. Draft for the WR#2 role and let that draft pick battle it out with Harmon in TC. Even if the WR draft pick is a total bust, you still have Harmon.

We could go for the best TE and a top CB for the same money we pay for Cooper at WR ($20 mill/yr). [B] I think the Redskins will spend their money this season in the OL trenches[/B]: resigning Trent Williams, Scherff and Flowers. Martin is the backup or might fight it out with Moses for the OT position. Then you still have to sign FS and LB. Use the draft for Chase Young, WR, TE and OT. It's tough to fill all the holes in one season but if Kyle Smith has another excellent draft the team could rebuild faster than expected.

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There are too many needs to expect them all to be filled in one season...WR, 2 or 3 TE, 2 OT, 2 G, QB and 2 or 3 LB, 2 CB, 2 S

It will take 2 or 3 years of rebuilding.

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We still could make more cap room with a RK restructure and maybe a couple other smaller cuts (I’m looking at trash like Montae Nicholson who absolutely shouldn’t be on this team)

But we should have around the 6th-5th most cap space in the league...it will be interesting to see how we build the team. The decline of Dunbar extension and Josh Norman cut tells me we have our eyes on free agent corners. Also the pursuit of Olsen might hint at a short free agent Vet TE as opposed to one of the more expensive top of class TE.

Eating a large portion of dead cap of Richardson contract is inline with the previous Keim report that they want another outside WR to pair with Terry now. Not waiting to see how it goes.

The deny of Dunbar extension, Reed and P Rich cuts...screams you need to be on the field contributing to get paid. And that is a welcoming change.

WR, TE, Corner looks to be the early focus in free agency. Still interested to see if there will be movement at Linebacker and Free Safety in FA, I think it could be possible, especially at MLB.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245055]We still could make more cap room with a RK restructure and maybe a couple other smaller cuts (I’m looking at trash like Montae Nicholson who absolutely shouldn’t be on this team)

But we should have around the 6th-5th most cap space in the league...it will be interesting to see how we build the team. The decline of Dunbar extension and Josh Norman cut tells me we have our eyes on free agent corners. Also the pursuit of Olsen might hint at a [B]short free agent Vet TE[/B] as opposed to one of the more expensive top of class TE.

Eating a large portion of dead cap of Richardson contract is inline with the previous Keim report that they want another outside WR to pair with Terry now. Not waiting to see how it goes.

The deny of Dunbar extension, Reed and P Rich cuts...screams you need to be on the field contributing to get paid. And that is a welcoming change.

WR, TE, Corner looks to be the early focus in free agency. Still interested to see if there will be movement at Linebacker and Free Safety in FA, I think it could be possible, especially at MLB.[/quote]

I would rather not have a short TE:laughing-

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If Dallas doesn't keep Cooper, we need to be all in on him. 25 Years old in his prime and one of the best WRs in football. Put him with Terry and u have a legit top 10 duo

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1245058]I would rather not have a short TE:laughing-[/quote]

Short term...my bad.

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Skins released Jordan Reed.

[url]https://thefandc.radio.com/redskins-release-jordan-reed[/url]

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Just being stupid while waiting for a plane out of St. Louis - Would you take Stefon Diggs and the Vikings 1st round (pick 25), 2nd round (pick 58), and 3rd round (pick 89) picks for Pick #2?

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No. I don't think Diggs is the kind off guy we want, and not Rivera's kind either. Talented yes, but too temperamental.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1245193]Just being stupid while waiting for a plane out of St. Louis - Would you take Stefon Diggs and the Vikings 1st round (pick 25), 2nd round (pick 58), and 3rd round (pick 89) picks for Pick #2?[/quote]

Nope. Take the predator.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1245199]No. I don't think Diggs is the kind off guy we want, and not Rivera's kind either. Talented yes, but too temperamental.[/quote]

Dude...you want diggs. DC guy & skins fan, a straight burner outside and a better route runner than theilen in Minny.

Give me Diggs in his prime...diva quality, but he is a phenomenal big play receiver


As far as that trade. It’s not gonna happen, but I want CY.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1245199]No. I don't think Diggs is the kind off guy we want, and not Rivera's kind either. Talented yes, but too temperamental.[/quote]

What? Gary Clark was temperamental. Who cares. NFL locker rooms are filled with all kind of personalities and it's the coaches job to manage it.

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I'd rather have Amari Cooper over Diggs but wouldn't be mad either way

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245239]I'd rather have Amari Cooper over Diggs but wouldn't be mad either way[/quote]

I'd rather have Diggs honestly.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1245256]I'd rather have Diggs honestly.[/quote]

yeah...me too. Give me the more passionate dude than what you saw in Dallas end of season with Amari sitting on the bench looking like he could careless.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245257]yeah...me too. Give me the more passionate dude than what you saw in Dallas end of season with Amari sitting on the bench looking like he could careless.[/quote]

Thats my concern w Amari. Reading the fans over in cowboyszone ... there is a consensus that he can tune in or tune out of games, unreliable and may not "love" football.

I dont want guys who dont "love" football. Plus, like many here have said, use that money on TE, OL, CB, MLB, FS etc

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Im surprised theres not more veteran FA activity right now. Greg Olsen signed and I think one other player signed. But isnt there usually more vet released FA activity?

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We're probably not going to get either Amari or Diggs.

The Vikes will not let Diggs go, as they need to keep their team intact for one more year before Cousins bolts for free agency. Plus, we don't have the resources to trade for him.

And for Cooper, he is likely heading for a big free agency payout, and honestly I'd rather bring in a guy to compete for the #2 WR spot. I'd rather spend money elsewhere (TE, DB, O-Line).

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The trouble with spending so much money for Cooper is it hurts you for all the other FA holes we need to fill. Signing Hooper or Henry at TE costs half as much as Cooper. Henry and Hooper are not elite, but they’re very good. I think the team will DRAFT for the WR#2 position. Kyle Smith did extremely well last year at getting WR talent from all levels of the draft and UDFA. They’ll use Kyle to get a WR#2 to compete with Harmon.

I also think they’ll bring in Tre Boston at FS to complement Collins. I still think they may try to bring back Kendall Fuller at CB, maybe to compete with other CB FA. I don’t think they can put all their hopes on Fuller making a comeback.


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[quote=Ruhskins;1245260]We're probably not going to get either Amari or Diggs.

The Vikes will not let Diggs go, as they need to keep their team intact for one more year before Cousins bolts for free agency. Plus, we don't have the resources to trade for him.

And for Cooper, he is likely heading for a big free agency payout, and honestly I'd rather bring in a guy to compete for the #2 WR spot. I'd rather spend money elsewhere (TE, DB, O-Line).[/quote]

In the end, I agree with this...

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I wouldn't go after a big name WR, go bargain hunting there and if you're going to spend $$ do it at the TE position

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[QUOTE=MTK;1245269]I wouldn't go after a big name WR, go bargain hunting there and if you're going to spend $$ do it at the TE position[/QUOTE]



Agree totally. Right now we don’t have ANYTHING at TE.

Get a cheap WR#2 FA to compete with Harmon. Plus Kyle Smith has really done an amazing job of getting talented WR from the draft and the depths of the UDFA. He’s done it two years in a row at that position. One of my biggest disappointments was how Trey Quinn had a totally busted season. Getting two hot starters like MacLaurin and Steve Sims in one offseason is great - especially when you look at the sorry history of WR busts the Redskins have had in the last 20 years. I can’t remember all the high draft picks like Doctson that went nowhere. I hope Kyle can keep it going. Getting a rookie starter at WR #2 would really set up Haskins as well as the best TE on the FA market.


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I don't know if this is legit but Jeff Howe from the Athletic is reporting that Ravens might be looking to trade Hayden Hurst. I wouldn't mind if Redskins give up late round pick for Hurst - Hurst was drafted in first round although the fact that Hurst couldn't beat Mark Andrews is something we need to consider but at this point, Hurst is better than any TEs we have on our roster.

If Redskins manage to sign Henry and trade for Hurst, I would be really happy. I'm not sure how this would work out with the salary part though.

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[quote=GridIron26;1245295]I don't know if this is legit but Jeff Howe from the Athletic is reporting that Ravens might be looking to trade Hayden Hurst. I wouldn't mind if Redskins give up late round pick for Hurst - Hurst was drafted in first round although the fact that Hurst couldn't beat Mark Andrews is something we need to consider but at this point, Hurst is better than any TEs we have on our roster.

If Redskins manage to sign Henry and trade for Hurst, I would be really happy. I'm not sure how this would work out with the salary part though.[/quote]

Get Hayden Hurst NOW! How many TE's would [U]not[/U] play behind Mark Andrews? Hurst is a very talented TE who has everything you would want at the position.

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[quote=GridIron26;1245295]I don't know if this is legit but Jeff Howe from the Athletic is reporting that Ravens might be looking to trade Hayden Hurst. I wouldn't mind if Redskins give up late round pick for Hurst - Hurst was drafted in first round although the fact that Hurst couldn't beat Mark Andrews is something we need to consider but at this point, Hurst is better than any TEs we have on our roster.

If Redskins manage to sign Henry and trade for Hurst, I would be really happy. I'm not sure how this would work out with the salary part though.[/quote]

Ive seen this...you have to wonder why in a scheme that features TE why he couldn't excel? I wouldn't give much... his cap hit is 3.2 this and next year? Couldn't you take that put it towards a proven asset?

I woudnt mind it, but he seems like a bust and might be cut.

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I liked Hayden Hurst coming out of college but reports are the Pats are talking w the Ravens. Mock has us taking TE Thaddeus Moss (LSU) 66th overall (3R)

2 years of control for a 27 year old TE Hurst

or

4 years of control, 22 year old (when season starts) TE Moss

[url]https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/washington/43/[/url]

I dont think id give up the 66th overall pick for Hurst.

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[quote=SunnySide;1245304]I liked Hayden Hurst coming out of college but reports are the Pats are talking w the Ravens. Mock has us taking TE Thaddeus Moss (LSU) 66th overall (3R)

2 years of control for a 27 year old TE Hurst

or

4 years of control, 22 year old (when season starts) TE Moss

[url]https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/washington/43/[/url]

I dont think id give up the 66th overall pick for Hurst.[/quote]

That's a curious mock draft for the Redskins, IMO. No DBs or WRs. And WR is reportedly very deep and strong in this draft. 2 DTs? Hey, I'm generally a BPA guy, but I'd like to see more of our holes filled, if possible. I like the first 2 picks in this mock, though.

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[quote=Number44;1245307]That's a curious mock draft for the Redskins, IMO. No DBs or WRs. And WR is reportedly very deep and strong in this draft. 2 DTs? Hey, I'm generally a BPA guy, but I'd like to see more of our holes filled, if possible. I like the first 2 picks in this mock, though.[/quote]

Yeah I can't see us taking 2 DT's in late rounds regardless of BPA. I think we would be better focused on DB's then. Maybe a WR, but I have a lot of hope for the young guys we have on the team. They each displayed some good things and without Gruden's love of his guys philosophy I think they will all develop together very well.

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The Redskins are talking to a lot of TE and WR at the combine. This is not some crazy misdirection idea of the past. This shows exactly where their draft pick is going to go with the top picks AFTER Chase Young. I’d say the third round #66 pick will be for a WR #2. A crazy idea is Hill, another Ohio State WR is being looked at. He OUTPERFORMED MacLaurin when they played together. Interesting.

I see the top picks in rounds 3-5 going to TE/WR. The #66 pick will go to either position depending on how FA goes. Obviously if the Redskins can’t get the top TE FA, then they.’ll draft for the best TE they can get.


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[quote=Warthog;1245311]The Redskins are talking to a lot of TE and WR at the combine. This is not some crazy misdirection idea of the past. This shows exactly where their draft pick is going to go with the top picks AFTER Chase Young. I’d say the third round #66 pick will be for a WR #2. A crazy idea is Hill, another Ohio State WR is being looked at. He OUTPERFORMED MacLaurin when they played together. Interesting.

I see the top picks in rounds 3-5 going to TE/WR. The #66 pick will go to either position depending on how FA goes. Obviously if the Redskins can’t get the top TE FA, then they.’ll draft for the best TE they can get.


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Can you list who they are talking too? I agree, with the depth of WR, the Skins should get a nice choice at top of 3rd round of whoever slides.

I think the TE is ok...we should be able to grab someone in the 4th.

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Hurst sounds like a big risk.

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/ravens-te-hayden-hurst-attempted-suicide-south-carolina-234738421.html[/url]

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Sign Ebron or Hooper in FA.. Draft OL/CB after Young

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[quote=Irrefutable;1245313]Hurst sounds like a big risk.

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/ravens-te-hayden-hurst-attempted-suicide-south-carolina-234738421.html[/url][/quote]

Can you please elaborate what you meant by that?

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Hurst is pretty well rounded and he is fast. I would take him if available.

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[quote=GridIron26;1245317]Can you please elaborate what you meant by that?[/quote]

Suicide, drinking himself to death ... guy has faced some demons but I dont think any of that is in play now or has been for a while. havent heard anything off field negative about him.

Its in the article and theres more in depth articles out there, commending him for speaking out when it could be viewed as a red flag for his NFL career

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[quote=SunnySide;1245328]Suicide, drinking himself to death ... guy has faced some demons but I dont think any of that is in play now or has been for a while. havent heard anything off field negative about him.

Its in the article and theres more in depth articles out there, commending him for speaking out when it could be viewed as a red flag for his NFL career[/quote]

maybe a clue to why he has underperformed and in danger of being cut. I mean, its a red flag for being traded and or cut as a first round pick b4 first contract is up.

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[quote=SunnySide;1245304]I liked Hayden Hurst coming out of college but reports are the Pats are talking w the Ravens. Mock has us taking TE Thaddeus Moss (LSU) 66th overall (3R)

2 years of control for a 27 year old TE Hurst

or

4 years of control, 22 year old (when season starts) TE Moss

[url]https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/washington/43/[/url]

I dont think id give up the 66th overall pick for Hurst.[/quote]
Mock draft is …. interesting , they mock for three years . They have the Browns taking 3 QB's next year , them using there 1st rd pick the following yr on a QB . As far as us , I just hope after CY we hit on our picks like last year .

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[quote=SunnySide;1245328]Suicide, drinking himself to death ... guy has faced some demons but I dont think any of that is in play now or has been for a while. havent heard anything off field negative about him.

Its in the article and theres more in depth articles out there, commending him for speaking out when it could be viewed as a red flag for his NFL career[/quote]


I did read the article, I just did not want to assume what Irrefutable meant even though it might be obvious since he posted the article...

I think it's short sighted for anyone to assume that a team would be taking on a big risk if they trade for Hurst simply because of his mental health issues. If the mental health issues persist throughout Hurst's career and he did not do anything about it then I definitely can understand this but it is not the case with Hurst. In fact, Hurst had been very open about his mental health issues lately. This tells me that Hurst is aware of his personal issues and where he stands.

Chico - I think it's more of the salary situation than Hurst's issues.

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I think with our TE situation taking risks really isn’t a luxury we have but if we bring him in as a no2 TE for a 5th round pick, I wouldn’t be opposed. 2 more years on his deal to prove he can play.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245333]I think with our TE situation taking risks really isn’t a luxury we have but if we bring him in as a no2 TE for a 5th round pick, I wouldn’t be opposed. 2 more years on his deal to prove he can play.[/quote]

I wouldn't want Redskins to give up a high draft pick for Hurst neither, and we should not expect Hurst to resolve our TE issue if we trade for him. I prefer for Redskins to sign Henry although it doesn't seem likely now that the Chargers GM mentioned that they are thinking about using franchise tag to keep Henry.

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1245335]I wouldn't want Redskins to give up a high draft pick for Hurst neither, and we should not expect Hurst to resolve our TE issue if we trade for him. I prefer for Redskins to sign Henry although it doesn't seem likely now that the Chargers GM mentioned that they are thinking about using franchise tag to keep Henry.[/QUOTE]



What wrong with Hooper besides his $11 mill/yr price tag? He’s NOT being franchised. I just wonder how many teams are going to be going after him?


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