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It's really not a big deal about the Carolina coaches. My thing is I don't want Cam Newton and the gang coming here.

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To break down the old failed personnel in one of the worst and most dysfunctional football franchises in the last 20 years, you have to replace people, both coaches, executives and players. First Rivera must change out the old executives and coaches who might be beholden to SNYDER.

Besides Bruce Allen’s terrible tenure as our GM, which is now over - Snyder has had his fingers in the management and mismanagement of this team. By having no one in the team structure that will do Snyder’s bidding, he is being locked out of a lot of the football decisions.

This is the biggest strategic change with the Redskins. No built-in sycophant and no Snyder being part of tactical football decisions. The fact that many of these people were brought over from Carolina is not nearly as important that Snyder is out of the small stuff as many of us hoped!


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[QUOTE=Warthog;1242704]To break down the old failed personnel in one of the worst and most dysfunctional football franchises in the last 20 years, you have to replace people, both coaches, executives and players. First Rivera must change out the old executives and coaches who might be beholden to SNYDER.

Besides Bruce Allen’s terrible tenure as our GM, which is now over - Snyder has had his fingers in the management and mismanagement of this team. By having no one in the team structure that will do Snyder’s bidding, he is being locked out of a lot of the football decisions.

This is the biggest strategic change with the Redskins. No built-in sycophant and no Snyder being part of tactical football decisions. The fact that many of these people were brought over from Carolina is not nearly as important that Snyder is out of the small stuff as many of us hoped!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I imagine my opinion will be unpopular, but I think locking Snyder out is the absolute worst thing Rivera can do.

Right now, Rivera clearly has carte blanche with Snyder, and holds the cards. If he turns around and locks Snyder out, in a few years, regardless of how the team is doing, Dan will get that itch to interfere. IF he has not been involved to that point then he will find back channels to get his point across. And our cycle will reset.

I want Snyder to have an open line with Rivera, and the ability to ask questions, give input and learn to respect how coaches make decisions. Further if he has something or someone he firmly believes should be played, drafted, hired I want Rivera to hear Snyder and work through to the best solution.

I know some owners do best up in the box and never heard, but I don't think that will ever be DS's style so we need Rivera to mentor and coach our owner as well as our team.



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@BurgundyBlog

Former Panthers defensive assistant Richard Rodgers will apparently be joining Rivera to coach safeties for #Redskins.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1242710]@BurgundyBlog

Former Panthers defensive assistant Richard Rodgers will apparently be joining Rivera to coach safeties for #Redskins.[/quote]

Bring tre Boston too

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1242710]@BurgundyBlog



Former Panthers defensive assistant Richard Rodgers will apparently be joining Rivera to coach safeties for #Redskins.[/QUOTE]



Oh, what a surprise. Another Carolina crony...


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1242715]Oh, what a surprise. Another Carolina crony...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]What a surprise, someone griping about our coach hiring his own staff

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1242715]Oh, what a surprise. Another Carolina crony...


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I agree. We should let Dan pick Rivera's staff.

In Danny we trust.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1242789]I agree. We should let Dan pick Rivera's staff.



In Danny we trust.[/QUOTE]1 month ban for mooby for even joking about that. Can i get a poll

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242791]1 month ban for mooby for even joking about that. Can i get a poll

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What? You don't trust our owner to do a competent job? He's as qualified as any fan here.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1242792]What? You don't trust our owner to do a competent job? He's as qualified as any fan here.[/QUOTE]I don't trust any fans either. Well maybe Schneed on salary cap, and G1 on draft trades

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242793]I don't trust any fans either. Well maybe Schneed on salary cap, and [B]G1[/B] on draft trades

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How dare you! You like Daniel Jones don't you? 😂😂

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242793]I don't trust any fans either. Well maybe Schneed on salary cap, and G1 on draft trades

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LOL, I like that!:goodjob:

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242793]I don't trust any fans either. Well maybe Schneed on salary cap, and [B]G1 on draft trades
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:lol:

Sorry G1, but that the 1st and a 5th and next year's 1st for the Bengals 1st overall pick this year is the dumbest shit I've heard in a while. You might wanna add Daniel Jones and another 1st rounder to make that work for the Giants.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1242705]I imagine my opinion will be unpopular, but I think locking Snyder out is the absolute worst thing Rivera can do.

Right now, Rivera clearly has carte blanche with Snyder, and holds the cards. If he turns around and locks Snyder out, in a few years, regardless of how the team is doing, Dan will get that itch to interfere. IF he has not been involved to that point then he will find back channels to get his point across. And our cycle will reset.

I want Snyder to have an open line with Rivera, and the ability to ask questions, give input and learn to respect how coaches make decisions. Further if he has something or someone he firmly believes should be played, drafted, hired I want Rivera to hear Snyder and work through to the best solution.

I know some owners do best up in the box and never heard, but I don't think that will ever be DS's style so we need Rivera to mentor and coach our owner as well as our team.



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Unpopular is an understatement. Lol. Why do you think Snyder is not at least briefed on these moves though?

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1242828]Unpopular is an understatement. Lol. Why do you think Snyder is not at least briefed on these moves though?[/QUOTE]Right now, I assume he is. My comment was directed against the thought of locking Snyder out of the discussions as was mentioned in the post I quoted. I actually don't think my opinion should be unpopular, because we all know Snyder is the owner and will be for the next 30 years, so it is in our interest to want Rivera to teach him how to be a good owner and what boundaries are appropriate. Ie Yes you can give me your thoughts on draft prospects, no you can not pick the player on draft day. If Rivera and Snyder don't keep open lines of communication and/or Snyder doesn't learn the appropriate boundaries, then regardless how succeasful Rivera is, Snyder will fall into dysfunction after Rivera leaves.

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I think Gibbs filled Rivera in on how to handle Snyder. You have to make him feel included and in the loop. Marty shut Snyder out completely and that backfired.


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[quote=MTK;1242838]I think Gibbs filled Rivera in on how to handle Snyder. You have to make him feel included and in the loop. Marty shut Snyder out completely and that backfired.


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That's the hope anyways. I'm optimistic Rivera as a teacher of men will be able to connect with Dan in a way that gives Dan confidence to let Rivera run the ship. Call it the Allen/Cerrato effect, it's the kind of connection that allowed both of them to stay for 10 years.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1242838]I think Gibbs filled Rivera in on how to handle Snyder. You have to make him feel included and in the loop. Marty shut Snyder out completely and that backfired.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Exactly

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I also hope Rivera is able to find success early on. I think that would also keep Snyder from meddling with the team.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1242838]I think Gibbs filled Rivera in on how to handle Snyder. You have to make him feel included and in the loop. Marty shut Snyder out completely and that backfired.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I heard this too on one of the Redskins based pods, but can't remember which one.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1242705]I imagine my opinion will be unpopular, but I think locking Snyder out is the absolute worst thing Rivera can do.

Right now, Rivera clearly has carte blanche with Snyder, and holds the cards. If he turns around and locks Snyder out, in a few years, regardless of how the team is doing, Dan will get that itch to interfere. IF he has not been involved to that point then he will find back channels to get his point across. And our cycle will reset.

I want Snyder to have an open line with Rivera, and the ability to ask questions, give input and learn to respect how coaches make decisions. Further if he has something or someone he firmly believes should be played, drafted, hired I want Rivera to hear Snyder and work through to the best solution.

I know some owners do best up in the box and never heard, but I don't think that will ever be DS's style so we need Rivera to mentor and coach our owner as well as our team.



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Snyder isn’t going to be locked out. I’m sure Rivera will keep him in the loop and to get his “opinion” on issues. My point is that there are no longer sycophants built into the management structure who allowed Snyder to influence football decisions. The Cerrato/Allen VP/GM is now gone. That’s the price Snyder had to pay to get Rivera.


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Manusky getting trolled.

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/clinton-dix-laughs-former-redskins-042342042.html[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1242886]Manusky getting trolled.

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/clinton-dix-laughs-former-redskins-042342042.html[/url][/quote]

Im curious to see how many snaps Sweat was dropped into coverage. Preston Smith was dropped into coverage a bit yesterday and Im coming to the conclusion that while every D Coord would like not to do that ... sometimes it is inevitable or impossible to 100% have them just rush.

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I don't think there are any jobs in the world where your boss would be happy with you if you lock them out completely and don't let them know what you're doing. Snyder SHOULD be involved at a high level. He just needs to trust the judgement of the people he has employed and let them do their jobs. So far, he's clearly doing that by letting Rivera let people go that have been BFFs with Snyder for years. Snyder is doing exactly what we've been begging him to do for 2 decades and deserves credit.

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[quote=punch it in;1242886]Manusky getting trolled.

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/clinton-dix-laughs-former-redskins-042342042.html[/url][/quote]

[Clowney drops into coverage on 3rd and long]

"They call that a Manusky"

The accuracy of this statement is painful.

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[quote=SunnySide;1242892]Im curious to see how many snaps Sweat was dropped into coverage. Preston Smith was dropped into coverage a bit yesterday and Im coming to the conclusion that while every D Coord would like not to do that ... [B]sometimes it is inevitable or impossible to 100% have them just rush[/B].[/quote]

Sure. 100% of the time, particularly as a 3-4 OLB, you wouldn't rush 100% of the time.

A Zone Blitz D would have DL drop into coverage routinely.

At the same time, when you draft a freakish pass rusher, you should find a way to have him routinely rush the passer. Instead, for the majority of the first 10 games, when MS played, he was dropping into coverage. When Manusky started having him routinely rush the passer, he started making some noise.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1242900]Sure. 100% of the time, particularly as a 3-4 OLB, you wouldn't rush 100% of the time.

A Zone Blitz D would have DL drop into coverage routinely.

At the same time, when you draft a freakish pass rusher, you should find a way to have him routinely rush the passer. Instead, for the [B]majority of the first 10 games, when MS played, he was dropping into coverage[/B]. When Manusky started having him routinely rush the passer, he started making some noise.[/quote]

Yes, I think everyone would agree that us using hand in the dirt guys like Sweat, Kerrigan, Preston etc in coverage is not ideal, not to their strengths and allows QBs/Coord to take advantage of that when the gift presented itself.

I just want to see the snap breakdown vs fan recollection. We as fans may over emphasis or think "its every time" when in reality maybe it was 30% of his snaps. I bolded the majority part bc we dont really know the numbers. I think its safe to say Sweat was doing more than we would like in the first half and perhaps the second half but I want to see the actual numbers and numbers for other teams as well to compare.

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[quote=SunnySide;1242904]Yes, I think everyone would agree that us using hand in the dirt guys like Sweat, Kerrigan, Preston etc in coverage is not ideal, not to their strengths and allows QBs/Coord to take advantage of that when the gift presented itself.

I just want to see the snap breakdown vs fan recollection. We as fans may over emphasis or think "its every time" when in reality maybe it was 30% of his snaps. I bolded the majority part bc we dont really know the numbers. I think its safe to say Sweat was doing more than we would like in the first half and perhaps the second half but I want to see the actual numbers and numbers for other teams as well to compare.[/quote]

From Nick Aldrige at PFF on 12/18/19:
[quote] Nick Akridge‏ @PFF_NickAkridge
In his senior season, [Montez Sweat] had 14 snaps as an OLB and 347 as a DE.

With the Redskins this year he has 296 snaps as an OLB and 300 snaps as a DE.[/quote]

So it seems Sweat was dropping into coverage about 50% of the time with little to no experience doing so.

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Those numbers are ridiculous for a non-cover LB. No wonder we generated a poor pass rush.

Well he'll be DE opposite Young come camp with any luck, so it shouldn't be an issue any more.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1242905]From Nick Aldrige at PFF on 12/18/19:


So it seems Sweat was dropping into coverage about 50% of the time with little to no experience doing so.[/quote]

We are on the same team, same page and I think share the same sentiment but I must be nit picky here with using that position stat as equaling coverage/rush percentage.

Doesnt an OLB rush the QB?
Doesnt a DE drop back into coverage?
Doesnt the swallow fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?

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[quote=SunnySide;1242907]We are on the same team, same page and I think share the same sentiment but I must be nit picky here with using that position stat as equaling coverage/rush percentage.

Doesnt an OLB rush the QB?
Doesnt a DE drop back into coverage?
[B]Doesnt the swallow fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?[/B][/quote]

:laughing-

Are you talking about the African or European swallow?

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1242906]Those numbers are ridiculous for a non-cover LB. No wonder we generated a poor pass rush.



Well he'll be DE opposite Young come camp with any luck, so it shouldn't be an issue any more.[/QUOTE]


Skins were actually 10th overall with 46 sacks



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Kyle Smith has been promoted:

[url]https://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-promote-kyle-smith-vice-president-player-personnel[/url]

Pretty happy with this move. Kyle is a rising star and the team should do anything and everything to keep him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1242914]Kyle Smith has been promoted:

[url]https://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-promote-kyle-smith-vice-president-player-personnel[/url]

Pretty happy with this move. Kyle is a rising star and the team should do anything and everything to keep him.[/quote]

Nice. This clears up who will be in charge of free agency this year. If Smith crushes free agency and the draft, i wonder if he gets the GM title, too.

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Kyle moves up to VP of Player Personnel and will oversee both the college personnel and pro personnel departments. So he's overseeing the work to put together the draft board and overseeing the work to scout out free agents.

Rivera still retains authority on who to actually select in the draft and on who to sign in free agency. But he'll be relying on Kyle's information.

I like the idea of moving your college scouting guy up to this level, once he's proved himself. The guys he put on his draft board three years ago are about to hit free agency in a year or so. So he can combine what he saw in the process leading up to the draft with what he's seeing in the pros.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1242914]Kyle Smith has been promoted:

[url]https://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-promote-kyle-smith-vice-president-player-personnel[/url]

Pretty happy with this move. Kyle is a rising star and the team should do anything and everything to keep him.[/quote]

Good move. From what I heard either from Keim or Cooley...Ron was given the last couple drafts and was told Kyle was the primary source for each pick (Haskins...seems to be the out layer). And was asked what did he think of the talent from the draft, top of players, context of other players chosen and Rivera was sold on Kyle Smith from the work he did on those last couple drafts. If true story, good to see these guys working together going forward.

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Speaking of Cooley, rumor has it he's joining Rivera's staff as some sort of assistant.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1242915]Nice. This clears up who will be in charge of free agency this year. If Smith crushes free agency and the draft, i wonder if he gets the GM title, too.[/quote]

I think the GM title would be empty, in name only. It wouldn't really mean anything in this case.

Rivera has decision making authority over roster construction. If he wants to delegate it to someone that's his call. But Kyle will put together the draft board and prioritize free agents. Rob Rogers will handle the negotiating. And Rivera will oversee them both - he'll take Kyle's information about free agents, Kyle will make recommendations, and Rivera will tell Rogers who to pursue.

So unless Rivera decides he wants to completely delegate that process to someone and name them General Manager to oversee all of it, I don't imagine a General Manager having much to actually do. You've got the guy handling all things scouting in Smith, you've got the guy handling negotiations in Rogers, and you've got the guy making the decisions in Rivera.

Don't know what else you need, except for a Director of College Personnel to report in to Smith, who already knows that world really well.

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Edited - Comment factually incorrect.