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[URL="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/21/large-public-companies-are-taking-small-businesses-payroll-loans.html"]Here are the largest public companies taking payroll loans meant for small businesses[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1249919][URL="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/21/large-public-companies-are-taking-small-businesses-payroll-loans.html"]Here are the largest public companies taking payroll loans meant for small businesses[/URL][/quote]

I would be willing to venture an educated guess many of those companies on that list are suffering no ill effects from the Corona-virus or it has little impact on them.

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[quote=MTK;1249919][URL="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/21/large-public-companies-are-taking-small-businesses-payroll-loans.html"]Here are the largest public companies taking payroll loans meant for small businesses[/URL][/quote]

It's a win/win, Trump gets to claim he's trying to help Americans but it's the banks fault for prioritizing those customers.

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[quote=mooby;1249922]It's a win/win, Trump gets to claim he's trying to help Americans but it's the banks fault for prioritizing those customers.[/quote]

Yeah always someone to blame built right in

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[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar[/url]

She got a forgivable loan. Her employees hate her for it.

Read several stories like this so far...

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[quote=Chico23231;1250038][url]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar[/url]

She got a forgivable loan. Her employees hate her for it.

Read several stories like this so far...[/quote]

I haven't known anyone that collected unemployment in ages and I personally collected it once and that was 40 years ago. I thought unemployment only paid about 1/2 a person's typical take home pay if they were making modest wages and way less than 1/2 if you were a high earner. In that article people believe they make more on unemployment than working, is that correct? Did unemployment befits rates increase? If so when, or is this just because of the pandemic?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1249918]All due respect to you, but you are wrong about it being BS. I'm not having a sky is falling attitude on that statement, i am looking at the numbers. The numbers simply do not lie.[/quote]

LOL, they most certainly do.

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[URL="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/americas-compassion-for-the-unemployed-wont-last/610243/"]The Second Phase of Unemployment Will Be Harsher[/URL]

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[quote=Giantone;1250045]LOL, they most certainly do.[/quote]

So you feel the numbers being publicized about unemployment are not accurate? How so? Are they too high or too low than what is being reported weekly / monthly, etc...

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Remember the good old pre-election days when Trump said the unemployment rate was over 30%... now it's coming true lol

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[quote=MTK;1250056]Remember the good old pre-election days when Trump said the unemployment rate was over 30%... now it's coming true lol[/quote]

It's too bad there was no way to take this seriously when China was quarantining Wuhan and all those other cities.

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[quote=mooby;1250059]It's too bad there was no way to take this seriously when China was quarantining Wuhan and all those other cities.[/quote]

Wouldn't you love to know what everyone in the White House knew back in say December or January? And they sat on their hands. Even just shutting things down a week earlier would have saved a lot of lives.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1250055]So you feel the numbers being publicized about unemployment are not accurate? How so? Are they too high or too low than what is being reported weekly / monthly, etc...[/quote]

You make an assumption all numbers reported are true .Aid(supposedly) goes to where it is needed the most are you saying certain numbers in certain locations would not benefit with greater numbers?

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[quote=mooby;1250059]It's too bad there was no way to take this seriously when China was quarantining Wuhan and all those other cities.[/quote]

Nobody was taking it seriously...people were only talking impeachment and how killing a terrorist was trying to force us into a war to forget about impeachment. So when it comes to credibility...impeachment was a nothing burger and we killed a terrorist which quieted an enemy and didn't lead to WW3 like ive been told would happened.

mid January thru mid February, 50+ headlines exist by the media criticizing the administration stating the Flu was the biggest risk versus the virus from the shithole which is China. Tom Cotton made remarks on the floor Jan 26(?) and again early Feb which were laughed at and criticized by the media.

Now I wish we had an honest media institution who actually investigated and reported fairly on these issues...not write stories loosely based narratives on unproven leaks and whatever dated quotes [B]4-5 months later [/B]while several months ago promoted ideals such as it was racists to stop travel to China, that we should worry about the flu over coronavirus, that Cotton is promoting conspiracy theories, etc.

Go back and look...Biden and Nancy Pelosi said in statements printed and on social media it was racist to impose a travel ban against China in late January. Go back and look at the World Health Organization statements one on Jan 14 stating "no evidence of human to human transmission". Again in mid-Feb, "no reason to stop travel in and out of China" by the WHO. The WHO are the folks countries go to and to be consulted for information and data about strategies about to deal with these type of situations.

Id really like to know what folks woulda said in January if Trump locked everyone down...I can see the headlines now.

Im not pretending things have gone great...it hasn't gone great for ANYBODY. No one has been on the right side of this.

Birx and Fauci how done a great job imo… but we cant even get a solid antibodies tests that can be mass produced.

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[quote=Chico23231;1250038][URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/she-got-a-paycheck-protection-loan-her-employees-hate-her-for-it.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar[/URL]

She got a forgivable loan. Her employees hate her for it.

Read several stories like this so far...[/quote]
You've read several stories about workers that rely on tips not being able to survive on base salary alone?

Spa workers typically rely on tips.

I've been to a spa once or twice. The lady that scraped the barnacles off my feet got a $20 tip for 30 minute service. The massage therapist get $20-$40 tip and double that if she provides the old kung fu death grip.

Some of these people that rely on tips are hard working and make good money, just not on base salary which can be less than minimum wage(Waitresses).

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This fucking guy

[URL="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-states-bankruptcy-federal-aid/"]Mitch McConnell would rather let states declare bankruptcy than receive more federal aid[/URL]

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[quote=jamf;1250073]You've read several stories about workers that rely on tips not being able to survive on base salary alone?

Spa workers typically rely on tips.

I've been to a spa once or twice. The lady that scraped the barnacles off my feet got a $20 tip for 30 minute service. The massage therapist get $20-$40 tip and double that if she provides the old kung fu death grip.

Some of these people that rely on tips are hard working and make good money, just not on base salary which can be less than minimum wage(Waitresses).[/quote]

multiple scenarios with a similar theme

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[quote=Giantone;1250069]You make an assumption all numbers reported are true .Aid(supposedly) goes to where it is needed the most are you saying certain numbers in certain locations would not benefit with greater numbers?[/quote]

Of course it would benefit those who needed it the most. I don't think either of us would argue that.

But i do argue that if you use unemployment numbers as a measure to gauge the health of the economy, as people generally do, then the USA is not doing well at all. On Monday i was shown a report that listed at that time, over 23 million people unemployed. That's 11.5 million people per month since March, when the lockdowns began. If we use those numbers, then by the summer we are looking at 70 million people, probably more, at the current rate that unemployment continues to grow. I don't know anyone who would say that 70 million people in the USA unemployed says that we are doing well.

If the shutdowns continue until the end of the year, or in multiple waves of shutdowns as some have called for, that's still on pace for 138 million people out of work. Now granted, that is much "better" than my original prediction of 300 million people out of work, but 138 million people out of work is still horrifying no matter what the reason is.

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[quote=MTK;1250075]This fucking guy

[URL="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-states-bankruptcy-federal-aid/"]Mitch McConnell would rather let states declare bankruptcy than receive more federal aid[/URL][/quote]

President has already indicated aid state packages are being worked on currently and will be coming in the next round of help.

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[URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216"]Trump suggests 'injection' of disinfectant to beat coronavirus and 'clean' the lungs[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1250268][URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216"]Trump suggests 'injection' of disinfectant to beat coronavirus and 'clean' the lungs[/URL][/quote]

Here is the entire conversation for context:

We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids, and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes,” Bryan said. “Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just bring it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster.”

Bryan added, “We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.”

Immediately following these remarks, Trump said:

So, I’m going to ask Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing when we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.
A few moments later, ABC News reporter Jon Karl asked Bryan, “The president mentioned the idea of a cleaner, bleach and isopropyl alcohol emerging. There’s no scenario where that could be injected into a person, is there?”

“No, I’m here to talk about the finds that we had in the study,” Bryan responded. “We don’t do that within that lab at our labs.”

Trump then clarified his remarks: “It wouldn’t be through injections, you’re talking about almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big affect if it’s on a stationary object.”

Look I get the role of the media...they hate the president and they hate the people who voted for him. But to suggest what they are is misleading.

[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/fact-check-no-trump-did-not-tell-people-to-inject-themselves-with-disinfectant-or-drink-bleach[/url]

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I saw the whole thing, he's a bozo

Just stop trying to sound like a doctor, he's doing us no favors with this garbage

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[quote=MTK;1250277]I saw the whole thing, he's a bozo

Just stop trying to sound like a doctor, he's doing us no favors with this garbage[/quote]

I agree, he knows 500 words...not a wordsmith. He needs to stay in his lane and he opens himself for criticism

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[quote=Chico23231;1250280]I agree, he knows 500 words...not a wordsmith. He needs to stay in his lane and he opens himself for criticism[/quote]

That's all I was trying to say, let the experts speak and stay out of the way

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[quote=MTK;1250268][URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216"]Trump suggests 'injection' of disinfectant to beat coronavirus and 'clean' the lungs[/URL][/quote]

So people need to freebase Lysol? It does seem Trump reserves his brain cells for what he has used to amass his fortune, other than that he doesn't seem very bright. He seems to utter things you would expect out of a grade school kid.

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He's so desperate to come off smart and knowledgeable and he just buries himself in stupidity

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[quote=MTK;1250293]He's so desperate to come off smart and knowledgeable and he just buries himself in stupidity[/quote]

He does seem the need to share his uneducated opinion on everything when he just needs to STFU.

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[quote=Chico23231;1250280]I agree, he knows 500 words...not a wordsmith. He needs to stay in his lane and he opens himself for criticism[/quote]

FUCK THAT!
He is the president and there is a segment of the Nation that takes what he says as God's word (as sad as that is) some people have blind faith in their leader and it's stupid shit like this that makes the work Doctors and Nurse's and others are trying to do 1000 times harder ! He is playing with peoples lives here.


You need to stomp making excuse's for the dumb son of a bitch!

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Trump apparently spends every night at a Holiday Inn Express.

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This is sad................

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-105047346.html[/url]

Lysol maker warns against internal use of disinfectants after Trump comments

WASHINGTON — The manufacturer of Lysol, a disinfectant spray and cleaning product, issued a statement warning against any internal use after President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute."

"As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route)," a spokesperson for Reckitt Benckiser, the United Kingdom-based owner of Lysol, said in a statement to NBC News.

"As with all products, our disinfectant and hygiene products should only be used as intended and in line with usage guidelines. Please read the label and safety information," the statement continued, adding that the company believes it has a "responsibility in providing consumers with access to accurate, up-to-date information as advised by leading public health experts."

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Don't worry you still can't get Lysol anywhere anyways. Tried to get some again Wednesday and no luck.

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Lysol and disinfectant trending on Twitter... LOL what a joke

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Lysol was trending in The Mad Real World...

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1250322]Lysol was trending in The Mad Real World...

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lol the OG Lysol

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[quote=MTK;1250320]Lysol and disinfectant trending on Twitter... LOL what a joke[/quote]

Pushed by activist and morons gaslit by the media when in reality, the president never said it or suggested it.

And this is exactly why fake news and enemy of the people is thing.

Instead of people calling it out, it’s perpetuated by people with an agenda.

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You include Fox News in the media right? Just noticed above that you mention the media hate's the president and the people who voted for him. Most do, but do you not include right wing groups as well?

Both sides do dangerous things, but I would argue right wing media does more harm.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1250327]You include Fox News in the media right? Just noticed above that you mention the media hate's the president and the people who voted for him. Most do, but do you not include right wing groups as well?

Both sides do dangerous things, but I would argue right wing media does more harm.[/quote]

You agree most media hates the president and his voters, and this is fine? You don’t see a problem there?

Is your problem with the news reporting on fox or the editorial program like tucker, hannity or Ingram? It’s not like I spend my time criticizing the same programming on MSNBC. Opinions shows really isn’t the problem. It’s examples above of NBC news passing information that lacks context and insinuates something Trump said which he didn’t.

And if you are gonna talk about Media credibility the last several years of woven narratives that were false and debunked...it’s not a good look. Stories that fell flat (Russian collusion, impeachment, Kavenaugh, etc) It’s rare to see push back by the media when the news is happening real time...it seems corrections and stories months later seem to form a revisionist history of actual events have become norm. It’s these cya tactics seem weak.

I think its very important add...MLC, Im not trying to change your mind on your personal political view...its more as be aware and thoughtful when you consume a story. I have read multiple stories by the media actually attacking citizens and smearing their name solely based on their political opinion. I can cite several stories just in the past week. Is this right?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1250329]You agree most media hates the president and his voters, and this is fine? You don’t see a problem there?



Is your problem with the news reporting on fox or the editorial program like tucker, hannity or Ingram? It’s not like I spend my time criticizing the same programming on MSNBC. Opinions shows really isn’t the problem. It’s examples above of NBC news passing information that lacks context and insinuates something Trump said which he didn’t.



And if you are gonna talk about Media credibility the last several years of woven narratives that were false and debunked...it’s not a good look. Stories that fell flat (Russian collusion, impeachment, Kavenaugh, etc) It’s rare to see push back by the media when the news is happening real time...it seems corrections and stories months later seem to form a revisionist history of actual events have become norm. It’s these cya tactics seem weak.[/QUOTE]



They don’t hate him. They think he is a moron. They think a moron shouldn’t run a country. He is and one shouldn’t. Don’t need the media to perpetuate anything for me to see and hear that!
Not to mention he absolutely suggested using ultraviolet to get those things inside the body and its on fucking video. LOL

I suppose he wasn’t harping on this drug either?
Stfu dude you aren’t a doctor. Though he is on video saying he could be. [emoji849] Absolute moron Chico and it aint CNN’s fault.
[url]https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-04-24/fda-warns-of-risks-with-trump-promoted-malaria-drug[/url]

But hey FOX lets crush Biden because he got a year wrong. [emoji849][emoji849][emoji849][emoji849]

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[quote=Chico23231;1250326]Pushed by activist and morons gaslit by the media when in reality, the president never said it or suggested it.

And this is exactly why fake news and enemy of the people is thing.

Instead of people calling it out, it’s perpetuated by people with an agenda.[/quote]

dude stop, he says dumb shit every time he speaks

the media isn't making things up out of thin air

a moron in chief is the true enemy of the people

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I'm voting for another Bush this year.

Black Bush 2020!!!

We will be keeping the Space Force

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