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[quote=skinsfan69;1310182]But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? [B]Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it?[/B] What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.[/quote]

Because Wilson seems to want out and only stupid/dysfunctional franchise would drag a situation like this out. And Pete Carroll is established enough that the team would give him the time to rebuild.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1310181]Not even sure why these guys were included.[/QUOTE]


Lmao idk was just rambling


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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1310177]"Fucking" was part of my rating.

Fucking good >>> good

Definitely still a top 4-6 QB.[/QUOTE]


Fair enough. Not sure how i missed “fucking” but i did. Totally read it as he is a “good” quarterback.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1310182]But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it? What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.[/QUOTE]


Well that is another story. But usually where there is smoke…..

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[quote=Ruhskins;1310183]Because Wilson seems to want out and only stupid/dysfunctional franchise would drag a situation like this out. And Pete Carroll is established enough that the team would give him the time to rebuild.[/quote]

I agree Wilson has been putting out feelers. But it really doesn't mean anything unless Seattle actually wants to trade him. They don't. They can still compete for a SB w/ a few upgrades. The situation there is not dysfunctional like Houston and Watson.

Once he finally got healthy they scored like 90 points their last two games. They're going to trade that for some picks and Daron Payne? 😅

The reality is good ole' Trubumski, a highly drafted player and Taylor. No way would Jimmy G come here cause Kyle would tell him what a loser Dan is.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1310182]But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it? What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.[/quote]

I tend to agree with you, but there is a price for everything. Everyone has that point where the offer is too much to refuse, and DS is the type of guy that will go there.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1310183]Because Wilson seems to want out and only stupid/dysfunctional franchise would drag a situation like this out. And Pete Carroll is established enough that the team would give him the time to rebuild.[/quote]

Brady has influenced both Russ and AR situations. I think leaving is in the cards for both.

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[quote=Chico23231;1310192]Brady has influenced both Russ and AR situations. I think leaving is in the cards for both.[/quote]

Also, teams can learn from situations like Houston, who paid Watson $10 million to sit at home for a whole season. Or how Bruce Allen got into a dick swinging contest with Kirk and let him walk for nothing.

It is just plain stupid for teams to insist on keeping a QB that no longer wants to play with them.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1310193]Also, teams can learn from situations like Houston, who paid Watson $10 million to sit at home for a whole season. Or how Bruce Allen got into a dick swinging contest with Kirk and let him walk for nothing.

[B]It is just plain stupid for teams to insist on keeping a QB that no longer wants to play with them.[/B][/quote]

It pretty much aligns with the norms of rich owners who think they are invincible.

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[quote=Chico23231;1310192]Brady has influenced both Russ and AR situations. I think leaving is in the cards for both.[/quote]

and it is in boths best interest to stay in NFC. Go to AFC have to face: Mahommes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, Jackson I am sure I am missing other young QBs that can change games lightening fast or stay in NFC and face
Stafford, Prescott

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I gonna call it now…but watch Rodgers to the Titans.

Green Bay will not trade to an NFC team. When AR looks at Denver and Tennessee, he is building a huge house there, and The team is much better than Broncos

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[quote=Chico23231;1310199]I gonna call it now…but watch Rodgers to the Titans.

Green Bay will not trade to an NFC team. When AR looks at Denver and Tennessee, he is building a huge house there, and The team is much better than Broncos[/quote]

Broncos are for sale . Rumor is Brady and the Mannnigs putting together a group to make an Offer. I could see AR going there if that happens.

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The most realistic option for Russ is to force his way out in a few years when his contract expires.

All these QB's that want their freedom can do what Kirk did. Play on one year deals until it is no longer doable for the team. I don't see any of them doing that.

Say what you want about Kirk but he played the system and played Dan/Bruce like a violin. So if these guys want their freedom there is an easier way form them to do it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1310203]The most realistic option for Russ is to force his way out in a few years when his contract expires.

All these QB's that want their freedom can do what Kirk did. Play on one year deals until it is no longer doable for the team. I don't see any of them doing that.

Say what you want about Kirk but he played the system and played Dan/Bruce like a violin. So if these guys want their freedom there is an easier way form them to do it.[/quote]

Elite QBs like Russ and Rodgers do not need to go the franchise tag route that Kirk and Dak had to go through if they want out. Very different situation, teams, and tiers of QB.

I'm not saying it is easy for the likes of Russ and Rodgers to force their way out of their teams. But as someone mentioned it, Brady set a big precedent for elite QBs when he left the Pats.

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Once his contract is up he can walk, there's no forcing out of anything at that point. That's an eternity at this point though. I don't know of any players that would pass up more money now for later on. That could be another motivation for RW to demand a trade, $$. Any team that trades for him is going to give him a fat extension.

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[quote=MTK;1310213]Once his contract is up he can walk, there's no forcing out of anything at that point. That's an eternity at this point though. I don't know of any players that would pass up more money now for later on. That could be another motivation for RW to demand a trade, $$. Any team that trades for him is going to give him a fat extension.[/quote]

And they have the cap space for him.

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Well, we could be looking at needing more depth at S if he's convicted. :(

[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/08/deshazor-everett-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter-in-girlfriends-car-crash-death/"]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/08/deshazor-everett-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter-in-girlfriends-car-crash-death/[/URL]

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1310235]Well, we could be looking at needing more depth at S if he's convicted. :(

[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/08/deshazor-everett-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter-in-girlfriends-car-crash-death/"]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/08/deshazor-everett-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter-in-girlfriends-car-crash-death/[/URL][/quote]

Driving twice the legal speed limit… cut’m now. Tired of the these athletes privilege

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[quote=MTK;1310213]Once his contract is up he can walk, there's no forcing out of anything at that point. That's an eternity at this point though. I don't know of any players that would pass up more money now for later on. That could be another motivation for RW to demand a trade, $$. Any team that trades for him is going to give him a fat extension.[/quote]

To add to this, KC was in his mid twenties when he ass raped Bruce Allen.
Wilson is on the wrong side of 30. No player his age wants to be on a one and done deal.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1310236]Driving twice the legal speed limit… cut’m now. Tired of the these athletes privilege[/QUOTE]


Chico texted this behind the wheel doing 95 in a 50 zone. Lol. Joking.

I agree. Cut his ass. That shit is inexcusable. Especially as someone who can literally hire a driver. Crazy.

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Just read this .. I apologize if this has already been posted ... but I found it interesting. And I'd be good with it.



[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/russell-wilson-reportedly-open-to-surprising-trade-destination/ar-AATBX8o?ocid=msedgntp[/url]


[I]Russell Wilson hasn’t officially demanded a trade from the Seattle Seahawks, but that won’t stop rumors from swirling.

[B]On a recent episode of “The Kevin Sheehan Show,” Sheehan revealed one team that Wilson wouldn’t be against playing for. That team happens to be the Washington Commanders[/B].

“I did talk to a few people in Vegas,” Sheehan said, via Audacy. “And the only thing that I will tell you is something that I feel confident in, based on the sources, and that is that Russell Wilson is not against being traded to Washington.”

Wilson was seen hanging out with Commanders defensive lineman Jonathan Allen at the Pro Bowl this past weekend. They took a picture together that eventually made its way over to social media.

Last week, NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport had an update on Wilson’s future with the Seahawks. He said a trade shouldn’t be ruled out at this time.

“Russ wants to know his options. I’m not saying he’s definitely going to go, but he wants to look around and see,” Rapoport said. “If you’re Seattle, it’s the same problem they’ve had the last few years. Even if they get a great offer, who is actually going to be their quarterback and how quickly can they rebuild? Because Pete Carroll is going to be 71, and he doesn’t want it to be a full-year rebuild. I wouldn’t rule out a trade, but it has to be a no-brainer and they have to know the answer to the next question as well.”

Rapoport added that Wilson’s no-trade clause gives him a lot of leverage in this situation.

Washington hasn’t really been mentioned as a landing spot for Wilson in the past, but it’s no secret the Commanders need help at the quarterback position.

Do you think Wilson will be in the nation’s capital next season?[/I]

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[quote=jamf;1310237][B]To add to this, KC was in his mid twenties when he ass raped Bruce Allen.[/B]
Wilson is on the wrong side of 30. No player his age wants to be on a one and done deal.[/quote]

Changing my post because I misread the quote. Kirk didn't do anything to Bruce, he just took advantage of a terrible front office executive.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1310258]I don't get this "Cousins is the victim" narrative. He has negotiated his way for a lot of money, without showing results that justify the money (especially in Minnesota).

Don't get me wrong, good for him and I know QBs are always overpaid, but let's stop acting like he was some sort of victim here or in Minnesota.[/quote]

I think you've misread that, he's not saying Cousins was a victim, just the opposite.

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[quote=davy;1310260]I think you've misread that, he's not saying Cousins was a victim, just the opposite.[/quote]

I did misread that, apologies. In the whole Kirk fiasco, I also don't blame Kirk because Bruce was a terrible front office executive. Kirk just took advantage of Bruce, it was a calculated risk, but he came out of it with a lot of guaranteed money.

And you're right, Wilson doesn't have the time to try to play the franchise tag game. And as I said, he has more leverage and influence than most QBs.

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I'd love to have Wilson here. As always depends on the price (picks and contract).

Minor advantage - if we set up a playbook to leverage Wilson's traits, it will fit with keeping TH as #2; both scramblers able to extend plays, good runners etc. Obviously there's a difference in arm strength...

Very minor disadvantage - if we got him, like as not we won't be drafting a QB this year (probably wouldn't have enough picks left anyway). Be dumb to bring him here then recreate the GB scenario. I'd draft one next year though, if only to replace TH.

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLJ0x55WUAcZ25m?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]

Ok how can anyone on here say no to this and that uniform concept? That is FIRE

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Replace the black accents with gold accents and I'm good. Still think there's improvement outside of that but that would appease me.

On the other hand, the concept of Russel Wilson in ANY Commanders uni is good by me!

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So, would having Russell Wilson make the Commanders a winning team? How many more wins is he good for? Would he make us a Super Bowl contender? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this topic.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1310285]So, would having Russell Wilson make the Commanders a winning team? How many more wins is he good for? Would he make us a Super Bowl contender? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this topic.[/quote]

Winning team: ✅

How many more wins: 5+

Super Bowl contender: ✅

On paper the schedule is a bit easier next season. I am optimistic that the defense will not be bad again. The offense and defense both actually looked pretty good in spots, despite all the injuries and COVID absences on both sides of the ball. With Russell Wilson this is at least a 12 win team if they stay relatively healthy.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1310288]Winning team: ✅

How many more wins: 5+

Super Bowl contender: ✅

On paper the schedule is a bit easier next season. I am optimistic that the defense will not be bad again. The offense and defense both actually looked pretty good in spots, despite all the injuries and COVID absences on both sides of the ball. With Russell Wilson this is at least a 12 win team if they stay relatively healthy.[/quote]

At least 12? That's bold. I think we'd for sure be a playoff team, not sure about 12 wins. 10-11 I'd feel confident in.

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[url]https://twitter.com/chuckg716/status/1491522269415415813?s=21[/url]

Lmao!!!


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310301][url]https://twitter.com/chuckg716/status/1491522269415415813?s=21[/url]

Lmao!!!

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If he's anything like us, he'll still be stuck rooting for The Commanders.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1310300]At least 12? That's bold. I think we'd for sure be a playoff team, not sure about 12 wins. 10-11 I'd feel confident in.[/quote]

I mean they were either winning in the 4th quarter or within 4 points in the 4th quarter, in five of the games they lost in 2021. That was with Heinicke, a revolving door at kicker, and a defense that was bad most of the year.

I don't think it's a stretch to think that Russell Wilson could add five wins with a weaker schedule and a slightly better defense.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310301][url]https://twitter.com/chuckg716/status/1491522269415415813?s=21[/url]

Lmao!!!


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This is great…he is right. Cut me a check and throw in therapy for their never ending bullshit.

It’s never about football with this gd team. That’s the problem.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310274][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLJ0x55WUAcZ25m?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]

Ok how can anyone on here say no to this and that uniform concept? That is FIRE[/quote]

damn whoever did this one has some skill

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLMEwwKUUAAudnb?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG]

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They already changed the logo?

[url]https://twitter.com/justinholland/status/1491527192676814852?s=20&t=OFN1wNLmb3WM8LH9QpMzrg[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;1310318]They already changed the logo?

[url]https://twitter.com/justinholland/status/1491527192676814852?s=20&t=OFN1wNLmb3WM8LH9QpMzrg[/url][/quote]

No, 1 is for the team shop and the other is online... The one on the left is way better

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[quote=mredskins;1310318]They already changed the logo?

[url]https://twitter.com/justinholland/status/1491527192676814852?s=20&t=OFN1wNLmb3WM8LH9QpMzrg[/url][/quote]

That white ring looks stupid.

Also, the actual sweatshirt is different too.

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They'll update the logo sooner or later, Ravens did. Titans did etc

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310331]No, 1 is for the team shop and the other is online... The one on the left is way better[/quote]

I prefer the one on the right. The word Commanders is bigger and bolder as it should be and the logo is simpler, easy to understand and it seems to stand out more without the white ring of distraction.