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[quote=MTK;1311662]For all of Rodger's eliteness, dude has 1 SB win. The team around you still matters, a lot.[/quote]

Agreed, but for Rodgers a better team would equal multiple SB appearances and potential wins.

I think now that Big Ben and Brady have retired, Rodgers has the best playoff record among current QBs: 22 games 12-10 record.

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[url]https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1499871686216359942?s=10[/url]


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I wonder what they offered for Russ…

I’d imagine 2 or 3 ones

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311767][url]https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1499871686216359942?s=10[/url]


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Gotta take big swings

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That shit for Wilson is pure PR. They had no chance at him but need to make it look like they're trying. Be realistic and start talking to the agents for Mitch, Crab legs and Mariota.

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[quote=Chico23231;1311770]Gotta take big swings[/quote]

Yep.. The Commanders are like a minor league hitter, someone like Tebow and they're taking cuts at Mad Max. No chance.

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Wilson isn’t going anywhere, the Seahawks would be the dumbest franchise to let a top 10 QB walk. Get a few defensive starters and they’ll be fine

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1311774]That shit for Wilson is pure PR. They had no chance at him but need to make it look like they're trying. Be realistic and start talking to the agents for Mitch, Crab legs and Mariota.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure they can talk to multiple QBs at the same time.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1311774]That shit for Wilson is pure PR. They had no chance at him but need to make it look like they're trying. Be realistic and start talking to the agents for Mitch, Crab legs and Mariota.[/quote]

It seems to be their MO with this well we made a big offer but no dice.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7y6EOGY87U[/url]

Commanders FO can't even get the steak knife prize, losers.

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The entire fan base actually thought we had a shot at Wilson cause he took a pick w/ Allen at the Pro Bowl. There was never a shot at him. Nevah evah evah... lol.

You can add Teddy B to the vet list as well.

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I’d rather take my chances with Malik at 11 then sign Teddy, he’s another QB2 floating around the league.

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If it’s not Watson (highly unlikely)

It’ll be Mitch, Winston or Mariota probably..

It suck’s but QB1s don’t just fall off trees , there was also a report that they “called the Chiefs for Mahomes” I doubt it was legit but if it was it just shows that they are telling the fans “we will try” to get a QB.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311786]I’d rather take my chances with Malik at 11 then sign Teddy, he’s another QB2 floating around the league.[/quote]

I agree here…if you can’t get a top tier guy, sign your vet (Winston, MT, Teddy, etc) but also take a shot with the 11th on who you like (Small tuggy hands KP, Willis)

Have them battle it out…grab MLB, CB, and let’s go

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1311786]I’d rather take my chances with Malik at 11 then sign Teddy, he’s another QB2 floating around the league.[/QUOTE]


I think Malik is gonna be really good. Id be happy as hell if they get him at 11. Hopefully there us a mlb and a replacement for Scherrff there in 2-3.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1311782]The entire fan base actually thought we had a shot at Wilson cause he took a pick w/ Allen at the Pro Bowl. There was never a shot at him. Nevah evah evah... lol.

You can add Teddy B to the vet list as well.[/QUOTE]


I think everyone knows that Wilson was a long shot. I think everyone always knew that Wilson was a long shot.

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The way the doors been slammed in our face on the offers we've put out says nobody is going to part with a #1/franchise QB and it's far from surprising. But its why I baulk at trading for Jimmy G. We'll be competing against 2-3 other teams, with probably better trade capital, forcing us to offer over the odds to land him. And SF would be quite happy to rip us off, so to speak.

Keep the picks for this and next year, get Winston or Trubisky in FA and draft BPA at #11 (if that's Willis then all to the good). For me, Jimmy G is effectively on the same level as Winston, maybe even Trubisky so why give up picks when we can pick up an FA without giving up draft capital? If one of the top QB's isn't there at #11, draft BPA or trade back, then pick up a QB in rd 2 or 3 and have them battle it out with TH to be backup. If they truly are good enough for #2 at that stage, then waving bye bye to TH isn't a big deal and if not, they can go on the PS as a project in case next years draft doesn't net us a starter. I just don't think there's anyone worth trading for at this stage, as we won't get value.

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Willis, or Winston and a stud MLB or G or OT at 11 and id be at least engaged for next year….
Giving up to much for jimmy G or a guy like Mitch coming here…not so much

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[quote=punch it in;1311803]Willis, or Winston and a stud MLB or G or OT at 11 and id be at least engaged for next year….
Giving up to much for jimmy G or a guy like Mitch coming here…not so much[/quote]

Willis would be another RGIII bust, no thanks.

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SF, why do you say that brother? He’s humble, works his ass off and is built much different.

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Rap sheet said Washington is also looking into Watson… I’m sure they are , why not?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311805]SF, why do you say that brother? He’s humble, works his ass off and is built much different.[/quote]

Inconsistent and raw.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1311807]Inconsistent and raw.[/QUOTE]


He is no doubt. I think he’s not a douche like Griff though. Regardless, Ron won’t go after a Rookie to start


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311808]He is no doubt. I think he’s not a douche like Griff though. Regardless, Ron won’t go after a Rookie to start


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He might have a good attitude, but can he play the position and win.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1311809]He might have a good attitude, but can he play the position and win.[/QUOTE]


That’s the multi million dollar question


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Where do you see that Willis "works his ass off"? Much of what I heard about him is that he does not spend much time watching film but instead relies on his arm. From what I heard he wound up at Liberty because of his lack of study habits nd mental game preparation.

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I like Willis .. I don’t like Watson with all the stuff going on .. If all the allegations are BS then move on .. where there is smoke .. Watson on this team is a PR nightmare .

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1311805]SF, why do you say that brother? He’s humble, works his ass off and is built much different.[/QUOTE]


Two totally different players. Lol

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1311809]He might have a good attitude, but can he play the position and win.[/QUOTE]


You could say the same about any player coming out of any draft ever. It’s an absolute crap shoot. There are sure things who pan out and who do not. There are reaches who wind up as franchise guys, and reaches who do not.

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[QUOTE=Ohioskins;1311812]Where do you see that Willis "works his ass off"? Much of what I heard about him is that he does not spend much time watching film but instead relies on his arm. From what I heard he wound up at Liberty because of his lack of study habits nd mental game preparation.[/QUOTE]


Links?
I have seen nothing saying anything about him having poor study habits.

[url]https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/why-malik-willis-transfer-from-auburn-to-liberty[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1311815]You could say the same about any player coming out of any draft ever. It’s an absolute crap shoot. There are sure things who pan out and who do not. There are reaches who wind up as franchise guys, and reaches who do not.[/quote]

Rather go for the bigger school QB that has faced tougher and better teams. Howell or Corral would by pick, followed by Pickett. We already had the run first QB, it didn’t work.

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[quote=punch it in;1311816]Links?
I have seen nothing saying anything about him having poor study habits.

[url]https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/why-malik-willis-transfer-from-auburn-to-liberty[/url][/quote]

Search "After tantalizing at Liberty, Malik Willis taking national stage at Senior Bowl" article from 2/4 on nfl site. He had issues with it at Auburn, but that was when he was 18-19. Didn't come with him to Liberty. Lots of good stuff said about him in the article from his time there.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1311818]Rather go for the bigger school QB that has faced tougher and better teams. Howell or Corral would by pick, followed by Pickett. We already had the run first QB, it didn’t work.[/QUOTE]


Josh Allen is a top 3 QB and he’s from Wyoming. Mahomes played at Texas Tech. Bret Favre, Southern Miss. etc..

How many Alabama QBs have been good?

Not always about the school. A guy we both like is Carson Strong and he is from Nevada.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311821]Josh Allen is a top 3 QB and he’s from Wyoming. Mahomes played at Texas Tech. Bret Favre, Southern Miss. etc..

How many Alabama QBs have been good?

Not always about the school. A guy we both like is Carson Strong and he is from Nevada.[/quote]

Dude you had a hard on for RGIII and I wanted Luck or Wilson back in that draft, how that turn out?

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1311822]Dude you had a hard on for RGIII and I wanted Luck or Wilson back in that draft, how that turn out?[/QUOTE]


To be fair I wanted Luck too , we both loved him if u remember lol.

Yeah I was all In in RG3. Learned my lesson after that shit


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311823]To be fair I wanted Luck too , we both loved him if u remember lol.

Yeah I was all In in RG3. Learned my lesson after that shit


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Bottom line, I don't want to trade for someone like Rogers or Watson who are going to cost this team more than RGIII cost to move up. Has this team not learned anything? I would roll the dice with Either, Corral, Howell or Pickett, I would even explore a Jordan Love trade, he was highly touted (I know he hasn't done shit, one game doesn't tell his story).

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SF and OK,
Who is the best QB in this draft?
Pick your guy (Just one!) and we can look back 10 years from now to see who got it right.

For the record, I wanted Tom Brady but no one would listen. ;)

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Give me the guy who is most coachable/worked hard, mature, preferably ran a pro style offense with more than 1 read throws, accuracy rate percentage high +10 yard down field, and won.

I think the two most overrated things is arm strength and athleticism

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[quote=Chico23231;1311828]Give me the guy who is most coachable/worked hard, mature, preferably ran a pro style offense with more than 1 read throws, accuracy rate percentage high +10 yard down field, and won.

I think the two most overrated things is arm strength and athleticism[/quote]

What you want is TH, we all ready have that guy and he isn't winning us shit.

You still need a athletic strong arm guy with the other stuff you described.

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Arm strength is overrated until you have a guy that is clearly limited in that area like TH.

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[quote=Chico23231;1311828]Give me the guy who is most coachable/worked hard, mature, preferably ran a pro style offense with more than 1 read throws, accuracy rate percentage high +10 yard down field, and won.

I think the two most overrated things is arm strength and athleticism[/quote]

I don't see anything in there about study habits.

I want a guy who has the athleticism and tools to succeed in the NFL, and also knows that ain't shit unless he knows the playbook and defenses as hard as he practices. Everybody in the NFL is athletically talented, the great qb's know the defense you're in practically as soon as you line up. Knowing the playbook and studying opposing D's in the film room is where the game is won.