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Adam Schefter saying we are also getting 7th rounder this year from the Colts in the deal

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[quote=MTK;1312497][YT]k9m1YuY7aGQ[/YT][/quote]

What an odd show. The only thing missing was mom yelling from the kitchen telling him his meatloaf is getting cold.

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[quote=mredskins;1312498]Expect you have to get the FA to agree to that and you are bidding for their services against other teams, i am pretty sure free agent Wentz was not coming here.[/quote]

No free agent QB is coming to Washington unless they are out of options.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1312514]What an odd show. The only thing missing was mom yelling from the kitchen telling him his meatloaf is getting cold.[/quote]

lol it is kind of a hot mess type of show, I can only take it in small doses, usually just watch clips on YT

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"Washington was not the only team in the Wentz sweepstakes, Pittsburgh and Cleveland also called" - Mike G - NFLN

Browns shopping Baker ??

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- in 85 starts Wentz has thrown 57 ints and fumbled 66 times. The 66 fumbles is an astounding stat.
- has been sacked 211 times.
- under pressure in 2020 his rating was 48
- Colts issues w/ Wentz were " doesn't take to hard coaching, is abrasive, lacks leadership and is reckless"
- Jeff Darlington.. " I was standing on the sideline watching Wentz. The vibe wasn't there"

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312519]- in 85 starts Wentz has thrown 57 ints and fumbled 66 times. The 66 fumbles is an astounding stat.
- has been sacked 211 times.
- under pressure in 2020 his rating was 48
- Colts issues w/ Wentz were " doesn't take to hard coaching, is abrasive, lacks leadership and is reckless"
- Jeff Darlington.. " I was standing on the sideline watching Wentz. The vibe wasn't there"[/quote]

Yeah he will have to fix that shit asap lol

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1312508]Wentz can make throws only a few other guys can make.. Mahomes , Allen , Herbert and Stafford.

Jimmy G is a system QB like Alex Smith was.[/quote]

Talented guy no doubt- but when his leadership is questioned, when you fumble all the time, when you take too many sacks, when you make back breaking type of plays, when you aren't as accurate as the top guys, when you play too much hero ball, when you are too fragile to take hard coaching, when two teams have kicked you out the door, does the physical gifts really matter??

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312521]Talented guy no doubt- but when his leadership is questioned, when you fumble all the time, when you take too many sacks, when you make back breaking type of plays, when you aren't as accurate as the top guys, when you play too much hero ball, when you are too fragile to take hard coaching, when two teams have kicked you out the door, does the physical gifts really matter??[/quote]

Yes.

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[quote=Chico23231;1312510]Adam Schefter saying we are also getting 7th rounder this year from the Colts in the deal[/quote]

The Colts threw that shit in as a gift cause they got over on Ron.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312521]Talented guy no doubt- but when his leadership is questioned, when you fumble all the time, when you take too many sacks, when you make back breaking type of plays, when you aren't as accurate as the top guys, when you play too much hero ball, when you are too fragile to take hard coaching, when two teams have kicked you out the door, does the physical gifts really matter??[/quote]

I think he takes the care of the ball in the air well, but the fumbles are a huge issue. Although Josh Allen fumbles often too but he's a way better QB than Wentz so he makes up for it. Look guys I'm just happy we will see some legit deep bombs this yr and Terry finally has a legit starting QB..

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312468]I would have signed Bridgewater and drafted someone. Teddy isn't flashy but he will take care of the ball and won't LOSE you games like Wentz does.

Ron thinks this team is similar to the Rams and he is way off. His team NEEDS the draft picks. Every last one of them. Holes everywhere on this roster.

So I sign Teddy, I draft the stud wr out of Ohio State and have more room on the cap to fill some holes. I'd probably go in the 2nd or 3rd round to get my QB and just deal w/ the fact that this isn't a great QB draft. But I could maybe get Ridder or Strong in the 2nd or maybe the 3rd. Now you got someone in the pipeline.

I'll try and win 8 or 9 games running the ball, playing better defense, hitting some big plays w/ my wr's and not turning it over. That's the ceiling for this team, with or w/out Wentz.

So there you go, I just sold you on what this dumb ass team should have done... lol.[/quote]

Teddy lost plenty of games last year by not making the throws needed to win the game. His ceiling is so low at this point in his career that you have no choice but to draft a QB. For the three of you that would have liked this scenario the rest of us would be pretty furious if we decided to roll with Teddy AND not draft a QB.

And for whatever reason, we continue to gloss over how bad the Colts receiving corps and pass pro was.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312519]- in 85 starts Wentz has thrown 57 ints and fumbled 66 times. The 66 fumbles is an astounding stat.
- has been sacked 211 times.
- under pressure in 2020 his rating was 48
- Colts issues w/ Wentz were " doesn't take to hard coaching, is abrasive, lacks leadership and is reckless"
- Jeff Darlington.. " I was standing on the sideline watching Wentz. The vibe wasn't there"[/quote]

Professional turnover machine. Gonna pad my room so I don't break anything when he fumbles yet again.

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[quote=Swarley;1312527]Teddy lost plenty of games last year by not making the throws needed to win the game. His ceiling is so low at this point in his career that you have no choice but to draft a QB. For the three of you that would have liked this scenario the rest of us would be pretty furious if we decided to roll with Teddy AND not draft a QB.

And for whatever reason, we continue to gloss over how bad the Colts receiving corps and pass pro was.[/quote]

Teddy B blows, I get why people were intrigued with him early in his career, but now? Might as well stick with Heinicke if that was the option.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1312514]What an odd show. The only thing missing was mom yelling from the kitchen telling him his meatloaf is getting cold.[/quote]

Bmore…you know I love you, but your signature is something about piss and you had another one about jizz last week.

This show could be a possible fit for you.

But you def can tell why AR chose to come in here and do interviews

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312519]- in 85 starts Wentz has thrown 57 ints and fumbled 66 times. The 66 fumbles is an astounding stat.
- has been sacked 211 times.
- under pressure in 2020 his rating was 48
- Colts issues w/ Wentz were " doesn't take to hard coaching, is abrasive, lacks leadership and is reckless"
- Jeff Darlington.. " I was standing on the sideline watching Wentz. The vibe wasn't there"[/quote]

Scottie Turner will sort this shit out!

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[quote=jamf;1312540]Scottie Turner will sort this shit out![/quote]

Between Gibson and Wentz, we're gonna fumble 2 or 3 times a game.

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Another very telling stat, Wentz was a 50% passer on plays that were not screens. 30th in the NFL.

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[quote=jamf;1312540]Scottie Turner will sort this shit out![/quote]

I almost feel bad for Scott. I don't like all the shotgun stuff, especially on 3rd and short. But I'd like to see Scott w/ an elite QB.

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[quote=Redskins247;1312472]Well one thing is for sure about this trade, Ron is definitely in charge right now, not Snyder...because Snyder would've never been down for this...I'm sure his reaction is very similar to much of the fan base. It is not exciting, and doesn't inspire hope to a franchise that is desperately seeking hope. And we all know, after Rodgers and Wilson were officially somewhere else, Watson was the only other one that gave any hope to the future, and you can only assume they were not going that route or willing to wait on it. I think there is a very small chance Wentz will win here but I hope I'm wrong. It is funny to me that some are saying they like this deal vs signing a free agent because they'd have to commit more to a free agent...you commit as much as you want in the contract they sign...you make it a prove it this year type deal or we can move on from you. I think we've also learned Ron doesn't want a rookie QB...at all...so don't look for one to be drafted this season or next, unless they have a top 3 pick...which could happen.[/quote]

cuz we see how well hes handled that in the past

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312544]Another very telling stat, Wentz was a 50% passer on plays that were not screens. 30th in the NFL.[/quote]

I'll say it again though. Why are you comparing his stats in a vacuum? What about his receivers? Were they open? How much time did he have in the pocket? Do you think any of that factors into a statistic like that?

He made some boneheaded reads and throws last season, I'll give you that but you're making him out to be in the bottom half of the league and that just isn't true.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312544]Another very telling stat, Wentz was a 50% passer on plays that were not screens. 30th in the NFL.[/quote]

Please don't share anymore about him LOL. I already don't like the move. This has turned me into crying jordan.

That is a terrible stat.

Just proves he leaves lots of yards on the field. No NFL QB should be completing less than 60%.

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[quote=Swarley;1312548]I'll say it again though. Why are you comparing his stats in a vacuum? What about his receivers? Were they open? How much time did he have in the pocket? Do you think any of that factors into a statistic like that?

He made some boneheaded reads and throws last season, I'll give you that but you're making him out to be in the bottom half of the league and that just isn't true.[/quote]

I think he is a bottom half QB. Never liked him. Indy has good wr's and the best back in the league and a very good o-line.

For those of you who are old enough, Wentz reminds me exactly of Jay Schroeder.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312306]You guys kill me w/ your stat sheets. lol.[/quote]

[quote=skinsfan69;1312544]Another very telling stat, Wentz was a 50% passer on plays that were not screens. 30th in the NFL.[/quote]

I guess you just like certain stats...?

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The only stats that matter to me at this point is what happens in 2022. Throw the rest of them out. New team, new coaches, fresh start. I am now a Carson Wentz fan because he is the QB of my team. End of story.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1312553]I guess you just like certain stats...?[/quote]

Since everyone was busting them out I thought I'd join the stat party.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1312554]The only stats that matter to me at this point is what happens in 2022. Throw the rest of them out. New team, new coaches, fresh start. I am now a Carson Wentz fan because he is the QB of my team. End of story.[/quote]

Agreed. Surround him with some more weapons and let's go.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312552]I think he is a bottom half QB. Never liked him. Indy has good wr's and the best back in the league and a very good o-line.

For those of you who are old enough, Wentz reminds me exactly of Jay Schroeder.[/quote]

Not a bad comparison.

Schroeder took us to the NFC Championship in 86 and the Raiders to the AFC Championship in 89. I'd take that from Wentz.

I think Schroeder was maybe a little more disliked by his teammates. Wentz seems to have his share of supporters from the Colts.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1312554]The only stats that matter to me at this point is what happens in 2022. Throw the rest of them out. New team, new coaches, fresh start. I am now a Carson Wentz fan because he is the QB of my team. End of story.[/quote]

This , there is no point and hating on the dude.. When he was beating us in Philly we all would have loved to have him.. That MNF Game he made some amazing plays

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1312521]Talented guy no doubt- but when his leadership is questioned, when you fumble all the time, when you take too many sacks, when you make back breaking type of plays, when you aren't as accurate as the top guys, when you play too much hero ball, when you are too fragile to take hard coaching, when two teams have kicked you out the door, does the physical gifts really matter??[/QUOTE]


You better hope he has a really bad year, because if he has a good one….oh boy.

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[quote=MTK;1312560]Not a bad comparison.

Schroeder took us to the NFC Championship in 86 and the Raiders to the AFC Championship in 89. I'd take that from Wentz.

I think Schroeder was maybe a little more disliked by his teammates. Wentz seems to have his share of supporters from the Colts.[/quote]

I think the whole "leadership issues" with Wentz was just shit made up by Irsay to justify his knee jerk reaction to get rid of him.

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[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr"]QBR rankings for 2021[/URL]

For the stats don't matter crowd, it's hard to blow off QBR as meaningless

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[quote=MTK;1312565][URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr"]QBR rankings for 2021[/URL]

For the stats don't matter crowd, it's hard to blow off QBR as meaningless[/quote]

Definitely my go to for comprehensive QB comparison

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[quote=Ruhskins;1312563]I think the whole "leadership issues" with Wentz was just shit made up by Irsay to justify his knee jerk reaction to get rid of him.[/quote]

There were rumblings of it in Philly too, just saying. I am not really devaluing him on it.

You got crack some eggs to make a omelette

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[quote=mredskins;1312572]There were rumblings of it in Philly too, just saying. I am not really devaluing him on it.

You got crack some eggs to make a omelette[/quote]

I think he complained too much when Hurts was drafted. From the outside looking in, it seems that that people in that organization were split between Hurts and Wentz.

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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/three-quarterbacks-commanders-reportedly-passed-194500500.html[/url]

"After canvassing the NFL in an attempt to acquire their next franchise quarterback, the Commanders narrowed their options down to Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Deshaun Watson, Jimmy Garoppolo and free agent Mitchell Trubisky according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler."

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[quote=skinsfan69;1312552]I think he is a bottom half QB. Never liked him. Indy has good wr's and the best back in the league and a very good o-line.

For those of you who are old enough, Wentz reminds me exactly of Jay Schroeder.[/quote]

They do not have good WR's, they basically have Michael Pittman Jr. and TY who missed a good chunk of the season, and was barely a factor when he did return.

This very good o-line was absolutely terrible at pass pro, way worse than our own team and we barely had starters playing.

but it is what it is I guess, I'll leave it here because I'm sure you've fully made up your mind.

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[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220310/022db3f18d43d80205cfb7cb691bb5d9.jpg[/IMG]

Hysterical

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1312576][url]https://sports.yahoo.com/three-quarterbacks-commanders-reportedly-passed-194500500.html[/url]

"After canvassing the NFL in an attempt to acquire their next franchise quarterback, the Commanders narrowed their options down to Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Deshaun Watson, Jimmy Garoppolo and free agent Mitchell Trubisky according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler."[/QUOTE]


Surprised Winston wasn’t on that list.

Has it has been a while since we had a quarterback with a cannon for an arm? I know that isn’t everything, but man it will be nice to see him step into one and at the very least not worry about get it batted down because he is 6 foot tall, or fluttering from the sky to the ground like a baby bird….

I swear it looked like TH was throwing balloons sometimes.

P.S. 10 inch hands [emoji119] so there is that.

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Yeah, must be something there that they don't like. Could be the ACL too.

From that list, I'm ok with their process and decision.