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Fire Turner for that last run play. You always try to win but I guess not him.

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Damn! I thought we had a pick.

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Smh... this is ridiculous

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Protect the sideline.

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58 yarder. Gano will miss it.

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Well Turner and Rivera are absolute cowards but this tie is fine. Basically a bye and than do this again at home for the playoffs.

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A tie is not that bad … we need to stay ahead of the other teams on the outside , better than a loss !

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Whoo that was close, I thought he was going to do it against his former team, I wish we still had him, he’s turned out to be a great kicker

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Wow, that shit was right down Broadway. Just 5 yards short.

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Tie >>> Loss

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Let lady luck keep on rolling

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Two coaches need to be fired Turner and the special teams coach. Turner throwing in the towel with that last run play / Gibson not taking it out at the end of the half and no one in the endzone at the end of the game to try to return the kick.

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Without Refs….this was a win

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[quote=nonniey;1331266]Two coaches need to be fired Turner and the special teams coach. Turner throwing in the towel with that last run play / Gibson not taking it out at the end of the half and no one in the endzone at the end of the game to try to return the kick.[/quote]

I thought running the ball was the right call, I would not have trusted Heineken in that situation, incomplete pass stops the clock, and they surely would’ve gotten the field goal then

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[quote=tomo366;1331267]Without Refs….this was a win[/quote]

Concur. You know what? I have a feeling we're gonna handle their ass in two weeks.

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We are very lucky with a tie … one yard deeper and they win with a safety … a few yards more they hit the FG …

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[quote=htownskinfan;1331268]I thought running the ball was the right call, I would not have trusted Heineken in that situation, incomplete pass stops the clock, and they surely would’ve gotten the field goal then[/quote]

Concur. A sack/fumble or an INT would've been horrible.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331263]Wow, that shit was right down Broadway. Just 5 yards short.[/quote]

If we had a special teams coach with any sense we'de have had Gibson back there to return the kick.

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[quote=nonniey;1331272]If we had a special teams coach with any sense we'de have had Gibson back there to return the kick.[/quote]

True story

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[quote=nonniey;1331272]If we had a special teams coach with any sense we'de have had Gibson back there to return the kick.[/quote]

Exactly! Frankly, Gibson should be back there on punt returns as well.

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The wr screen call w/ the game on the line is so annoying. The chances of picking that up were slim. Would have been nice to give our wr's a chance to do some work down field.

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My problem with Turner and Rivera is they won't call plays to allow Heinicke to use his legs and make the defense account for him.

The Falcons, Eagles, and Giants does it. If we had someone like Schottenheimer, you'd see Heinicke and this offense feasting.

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If you can’t understand Th handcuffs this team and it’s play calling you don’t understand football

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[quote=PorkSkins;1331276]My problem with Turner and Rivera is they won't call plays to allow Heinicke to use his legs and make the defense account for him.

The Falcons, Eagles, and Giants does it. If we had someone like Schottenheimer, you'd see Heinicke and this offense feasting.[/quote]

Do you really think TH is Lamar or Mike Vick ? TH is shit man ; it’s amazing we have the record we do with him

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TH = Shane Falco……all about Heart!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331263]Wow, that shit was right down Broadway. Just 5 yards short.[/quote]

I thought the same thing, career long 61 yarder + lining that shit up right down the middle - sure fire L. Luckily Gano is an old man now and doesn't have the leg for a 58 yarder outdoors.

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[quote=tomo366;1331279]TH = Shane Falco……all about Heart![/quote]

He's got the heart, but he doesn't have the talent.

I like him as a short term solution, a solid backup, but long term he's not a guy you can build around.

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[quote=mredskins;1331278]Do you really think TH is Lamar or Mike Vick ? TH is shit man ; it’s amazing we have the record we do with him[/quote]

That's a fallacious and irrelevant response. Heinicke runs 4.56 40 which is more than fast enough for a QB to be threat with his legs.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1331283]That's a fallacious and irrelevant response. Heinicke runs 4.56 40 which is more than fast enough for a QB to be threat with his legs.[/quote]

Ok whatever, being straight in a fast line is much different then scrambling ability

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[quote=mredskins;1331286]Ok whatever, being straight in a fast line is much different then scrambling ability[/quote]

For one, he's shown he can scramble. Lastly, you're not or rarely scrambling on designed run plays.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1331294]For one, he's shown he can scramble. Lastly, you're not or rarely scrambling on designed run plays.[/quote]

Plain and simple he is not a very good QB, no other team in the nfl would start him

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[quote=mredskins;1331296]Plain and simple he is not a very good QB, no other team in the nfl would start him[/quote]

Maybe not. But you use him towards his strengths. Learn the game.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1331298]Maybe not. But you use him towards his strengths. Learn the game.[/quote]

Pork, I like you and I'm glad you post here, but you make too many posts that imply that if you don't agree, whoever you disagree with, is flat out wrong and needs to learn the game. You don't have a monopoly on football knowledge.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1331298]Maybe not. [B]But you use him towards his strengths[/B]. Learn the game.[/quote]

I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.

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[quote=mooby;1331302]I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.[/quote]

It's weird, because I feel like we have no less than league average receivers and an above average RB room. But offense is still brutal to watch most times.

I rotate blame on that between the QBs/Turner/OLine.

Our offensive line at pass protection makes it very difficult for not great OC or QBs to be successful.

OLine should be the No. 1 off-season focus. Then base the draft around how the pre-draft off-season went.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331301]Pork, I like you and I'm glad you post here, but you make too many posts that imply that if you don't agree, whoever you disagree with, is flat out wrong and needs to learn the game. You don't have a monopoly on football knowledge.[/quote]

I can say what I wanna say when I see fit. He doesn't know the game if he uses an example of Vick and Jackson when it comes to using or not using Heinicke per RPO.

If you're gonna play someone then play said player to their strengths. We're not doing that with Heinicke.

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[quote=mooby;1331302]I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.[/quote]

Does Heinicke has the arm strength of Hurts, Mariotta, or Daniel Jones? Nope. But he has more than enough athleticism to even periodically use him on RPO action. Make the defense honor him. One hesitation or false step by the end, backers, and/or safeties can result in reasonable to sizeable yardage.

Stop trying to routinely fancy him as some sort of drop back passer. Drop him him back periodically to keep the defense honest, but mix it up and allow Heinicke to use his legs.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1331307][B]I can say what I wanna say when I see fit.[/B] He doesn't know the game if he uses an example of Vick and Jackson when it comes to using or not using Heinicke per RPO.

If you're gonna play someone then play said player to their strengths. We're not doing that with Heinicke.[/quote]

I never said you can't post whatever you want. But just because you can post something, doesn't mean you should. That's all. I think a large majority of posters here are knowledgeable fans.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331311]I never said you can't post whatever you want. But just because you can post something, doesn't mean you should. That's all. I think a large majority of posters here are knowledgeable fans.[/quote]

I think there's a large majority who doesn't know much. I know a guy who was an all-state high school football player in the late 80s who once told me that he really wasn't a true student of the game. He knew the game, but only enough to "get by" per se'.

I brought that up because there are people who has watched hundreds or thousands of football games but still doesn't know particular nuances of the game.

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Honestly i'm not mad at today's Tie. It's better than a Loss and we are 7-5-1 at the bye.