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DBs coach Chris Harris leaves Commanders for a position with the Titans

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/dbs-coach-chris-harris-leaves-164631723.html[/url]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1336707]DBs coach Chris Harris leaves Commanders for a position with the Titans

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/dbs-coach-chris-harris-leaves-164631723.html[/url][/quote]

Sounds like a made up title to pretend like it's a promotion, so the Titans could poach him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1336709]Sounds like a made up title to pretend like it's a promotion, so the Titans could poach him.[/quote]

Idk but I don't understand why we couldn't have done the same. Has he not earned a made up promotion or a real promotion?

We finally have a position coach worth a damn who gets some big recognition league wide and first thing he does is he walks.

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I'm sure he just sees a better opportunity anywhere but here. Can't blame him really. No telling who is going to be here this time next year. This secondary hasn't exactly been lighting it up anyway. We have some nice players, but nobody's locking anything down, and the communication often times leaves a lot to be desired.

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The jury is still out as to whether we have solved the QB riddle, and the offensive line needs some attention this offseason, but it's no secret this offense has the talent to succeed. We just need an OC that can get it going so this team can finally play complementary football consistently.

Here is the list of who I am tracking as potential OCs - they have either interviewed already or are scheduled to.

Thomas Brown - Los Angeles Rams asst. HC/TE coach
Pat Shurmur - Former Denver Broncos OC/Giants, Browns head coach
Ken Zampese - Commanders QB coach
Charles London - Atlanta Falcons QBs coach
Eric Studesville - Dolphins asst. HC/RB coach

Other?

Curious what everyone's thoughts are about these guys. Do you have a favorite? Who do you think it will ultimately be?

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along with the O.C coaching positipon who will be are D.B. coach now?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1336707]DBs coach Chris Harris leaves Commanders for a position with the Titans

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/dbs-coach-chris-harris-leaves-164631723.html[/url][/quote]

Fucking BS .. was he not under contract with us? How can he take a lateral position?

What if now Titans make him their DC?

Do we get that 3rd round comp pick?

How did an asst get poached from us for a lateral move?

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Good stuff from Keim and jordan Reid (not the TE)
[url]https://youtu.be/PVnovOKvcMg[/url]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1336759]The jury is still out as to whether we have solved the QB riddle, and the offensive line needs some attention this offseason, but it's no secret this offense has the talent to succeed. We just need an OC that can get it going so this team can finally play complementary football consistently.

Here is the list of who I am tracking as potential OCs - they have either interviewed already or are scheduled to.

Thomas Brown - Los Angeles Rams asst. HC/TE coach
Pat Shurmur - Former Denver Broncos OC/Giants, Browns head coach
Ken Zampese - Commanders QB coach
Charles London - Atlanta Falcons QBs coach
Eric Studesville - Dolphins asst. HC/RB coach

Other?

Curious what everyone's thoughts are about these guys. Do you have a favorite? Who do you think it will ultimately be?[/quote]

Here are my rankings:

Everybody else > Ken Zampese

Speaking of Ken Zampese, [URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/01/23/2023-nfl-coaching-carousel-rumors-sean-payton-mmqb"]here is what Albert Breer is hearing[/URL]!

I can only speak for myself but the names Pat Shurmur and Ken Zampese aren't what comes to mind when I think of modern offensive coordinators that know how to maximize production out of their personnel.

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Shurmur has a reputation as a QB coach and OC. His principle failure was in being a head coach.

As for Zampese, that would feel like another "comfort" hire by Ron. Don't think it would move the team forward in any meaningful way.

Ron has to win this year, it is going to be a gamble for him to figure out which option will give him the best short term results

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Of course right now there are 15 OC positions (10 plus the 5 for HC changes) out there and some OC positions will open up as a result of the HC hires. With so many openings many of the young up and comers will have many better options than a one year deal in Washington. There will be some left over when the music stops, but we will be last in the queue to teams offering 4/5 year contracts. It may end up that Shurmur and Zampese are the only ones left who want the job.

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Commanders are projected to get compensatory picks in the 3rd and 6th rounds for losing Schreff and Settle. Not bad.

[url]https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/1617918046198431745[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1336959]Commanders are projected to get compensatory picks in the 3rd and 6th rounds for losing Schreff and Settle. Not bad.

[url]https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/1617918046198431745[/url][/quote]

Well, this makes up for the 3rd round pick we lost because of the Wentz trade.

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[quote=GridIron26;1336960]Well, this makes up for the 3rd round pick we lost because of the Wentz trade.[/quote]

Yeah, that 3rd round comp pick is huge. That's someone that should definitely contribute in 2023.

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[quote=GridIron26;1336960]Well, this makes up for the 3rd round pick we lost because of the Wentz trade.[/quote]

I'm sure that factored into the price they paid - they were probably anticipating a third rounder for him.

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[quote=GridIron26;1336960]Well, this makes up for the 3rd round pick we lost because of the Wentz trade.[/quote]

Well not quite. It is about 15-20 picks lower.

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Some chatter that Greg Roman is the favorite for the OC job.. Not a huge fan of that

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1336988]Some chatter that Greg Roman is the favorite for the OC job.. Not a huge fan of that[/quote]

I think it's a good fit. We will likely have a lower level veteran starting or a 5th round pick with 1 game of experience. Being able to lien on the run game should be helpful, either way. Roman hasn't ever had McLaurin, Dotson, Samuel either. He will probably faint from excitement his 1st practice here. Like wow, a real beast WR room to work with? Sweet.

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Roman loves the running game and he's one of the best in the biz if that's what you're looking for. The passing game though... players aren't big fans of him in that area.

[QUOTE]@RGIII
Greg Roman may be of the greatest run game tacticians I have ever been around at the NFL level. RBs and TEs love his system because they EAT. WRs absolutely hate it. That’s why free agent WRs didn’t want to go to or stay in Baltimore. It was never about Lamar Jackson.[/QUOTE]

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If Sam Howell ends up being the starter next season, and Roman ends up being the OC...it could actually be really good for both of them. I watched every game of Howell at UNC...his first 2 seasons is when they had Michael Carter and Javonte Williams as the RBs and they were run first offense and it worked well...those RBs rolled...and then some play action where Howell would hit Dyami Brown in stride 40 yards down the field for a TD. Not to mention Sam can run for some tough yards as well...but he's no Lamar or Hurts...more like Josh Allen running but he's not as tall obviously....but tough kid.

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[quote=Redskins247;1336992]If Sam Howell ends up being the starter next season, and Roman ends up being the OC...it could actually be really good for both of them. I watched every game of Howell at UNC...his first 2 seasons is when they had Michael Carter and Javonte Williams as the RBs and they were run first offense and it worked well...those RBs rolled...and then some play action where Howell would hit Dyami Brown in stride 40 yards down the field for a TD. Not to mention Sam can run for some tough yards as well...but he's no Lamar or Hurts...more like Josh Allen running but he's not as tall obviously....but tough kid.[/quote]

Not trying to be that guy but after RG3 I dont want another running QB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1336996]Not trying to be that guy but after RG3 I dont want another running QB[/quote]

I think Sam has shown, at least in one game, that he has better accuracy than RG3 ever did.

My only thing with Roman is that I don't want a situation where your QB is your main RB. We have way too much talent at RB to be doing that foolishness. I also think Howell would not be too quick to run the ball. I believe Keim said that he saw a difference between the preseason game and the Cowpukes game in terms of Howell being more patient in the pocket.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1336988]Some chatter that Greg Roman is the favorite for the OC job.. Not a huge fan of that[/quote]

Really? I didn't even know he was on their list. Did he interview or is he scheduled? I have seen where some think he would fit here, but I haven't actually seen anything that indicates RR is interested.

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I think the thing you have to remember about Roman is the offence in Baltimore was built like that because of Lamar, not the other way around. It does not mean he can't run a more traditional offence, in fact it speaks to his ability to tailor his scheme to the players he has which was lacking in Washington the last couple of years.

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Out of all the names mentioned, Greg Roman would be my #1 choice. I'm just not sure he's even in the mix. Haven't seen anything to suggest that.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1337004]Out of all the names mentioned, Greg Roman would be my #1 choice. I'm just not sure he's even in the mix. Haven't seen anything to suggest that.[/quote]

literally everyone in bmore hates that guy .

i have watched a lot of ravens football its not electrifying offense

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[quote=mredskins;1337008]literally everyone in bmore hates that guy .

i have watched a lot of ravens football its not electrifying offense[/quote]

I can't speak to why everyone in Bmore hates him.

He seems pretty well-respected around the league. What he is known for seems to fit what RR and his staff want to do here. The Ravens offense has tailed off the last couple years, but Lamar was inactive for 10 games in the last two years and they don't have the receiving corps we have here - plus their #1 receiver (a rookie) missed 11 games this year.

Like I said though, I don't even know that he's under consideration.

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So Baltimore with Roman since 2019 has gone 14-2, 11-5, 8-9, and 10-7.

I'd take that all day.

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[quote=MTK;1337010]So Baltimore with Roman since 2019 has gone 14-2, 11-5, 8-9, and 10-7.

I'd take that all day.[/quote]

i guess, their offense just isn't very exciting, sure it may be more effective then ours but our bar so low you can baby step over it.

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We could run the most boring offense in the history of football for all I care if it resulted in winning games at the same clip Baltimore does.

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[quote=MTK;1337010]So Baltimore with Roman since 2019 has gone 14-2, 11-5, 8-9, and 10-7.

I'd take that all day.[/quote]

Exactly. People are getting worked up over stupid sh*t during this OC search.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1337013]Exactly. People are getting worked up over stupid sh*t during this OC search.[/quote]

And ultimately, if we don't get better QB play it won't matter who is calling the plays.

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[quote=MTK;1337010]So Baltimore with Roman since 2019 has gone 14-2, 11-5, 8-9, and 10-7.

I'd take that all day.[/quote]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnRd69vWYAAN5T5?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

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^please no…I’ll take Roman over Lamar

I’d like a QC who can develop a passing attack and get the ball to our playmakers. I’ve never felt like he did that in Baltimore and I think the fact they let him go speaks to Baltimore unhappiness with that aspect. Lamar struggles at throwing the ball.

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LJ is always going to struggle throwing the ball consistently from the pocket no matter who his OC is. I wouldn't put LJ's deficiencies as a player on Roman.

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Lamar is 26 YO and has never had WRs like we do.. It could be a good combo but right now with Ownership change coming, I don't see him coming to DC

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1337020]Lamar is 26 YO and has never had WRs like we do.. It could be a good combo but right now with Ownership change coming, I don't see him coming to DC[/quote]

I don't know if the sale would stop us from getting whom ever, if new ownership wants a certain person.

Look at Denver they made some big splashes last off season and ownership changed hands.

I don't think the sale is like for when us "little" people buy a house i believe they realize this business is 24/7 so the new owner can start pulling strings prior to the official sale date.

For example if the new owner wants to change the name, i wouldn't be surprised if they are going to the league office and are like hey this possible or am i stuck with Commanders; all prior to the sale.

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[quote=MTK;1337012]We could run the most boring offense in the history of football for all I care if it resulted in winning games at the same clip Baltimore does.[/quote]

I have watched a lot of Ravens football, its the local feed.

I am telling you they are one the luckiest teams in the sports. Those records you posted they could have easily swung the other way to losing seasons, they also tend to have extremely easy schedules.

One factor that gets over looked at BAL offense (as far as points) and he saves their asses way more then Lamar, is Justin Tucker. He literary should be the Ravens MVP every year. God do I hate his commercials for Royal Farms; his new one where they have him like a kid in the back seat of the car; serious gear grinding.

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[quote=mredskins;1337036]I have watched a lot of Ravens football, its the local feed.

I am telling you they are one the luckiest teams in the sports. Those records you posted they could have easily swung the other way to losing seasons, they also tend to have extremely easy schedules.

One factor that gets over looked at BAL offense (as far as points) and he saves their asses way more then Lamar, is Justin Tucker. He literary should be the Ravens MVP every year. God do I hate his commercials for Royal Farms; his new one where they have him like a kid in the back seat of the car; serious gear grinding.[/quote]

I watch the Ravens locally and I wouldn't call them lucky. Also, AFC North has always been a very competitive division and the AFC in general has been more competitive over the past 5-10 years, than the NFC.

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More OC candidates:

@john_keim
As @NickiJhabvala reported the Commanders have sought permission to talk to 49ers Asst HC/RB coach Anthony Lynn, according to source. A formal request will be made after the 49ers game Sunday, per source, so focus remains on their game.