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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1363376]I do not understand how somebody could go from voting for Kamala Harris and then she makes a VP pick that is in line with her views and you switch to Trump. Sitting out I understand, switching to Trump - no because they're two diametrically opposed opponents. In short I don't believe you're too colleagues we're going to vote for Kamala they were probably just saying that but we're going to vote for Trump no matter what. Of course I don't understand how anyone is voting for Trump or Harris at this point so I'm just stuck in the middle with no one to vote for or to represent me.

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I think they were hoping (praying) she wouldn't go full bore Progressive if she won, but by picking Walz she is demonstrating she is going to go full bore progressive which for those two (and me) killed our long shot hopes. (Plus for one of them he really liked Kelley - he is our Senator).

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A requirement to be a democrat voter is to a habitual, degenerate liar. If you expect a democrat to be politically honest, you're naive or stupid.

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[quote=nonniey;1363377]I think they were hoping (praying) she wouldn't go full bore Progressive if she won, but by picking Walz she is demonstrating she is going to go full bore progressive which for those two (and me) killed our long shot hopes. (Plus for one of them he really liked Kelley - he is our Senator).[/quote]

It's definitely an interesting pick to say the least. I feel like if she had picked Shapiro she probably wins somewhat comfortably in November. Especially if she never puts herself in a position where she has answer a question about her past or her plans for the future.

It's probably the worst choice for her chances, right? Does adding him to the ticket entice the moderates or the independents? I don't think so. Those 'lefter' than left are in the bag, though... but they already were. It's just so curious to me.

They are calling him Tampon Tim... SMH

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1363381]It's definitely an interesting pick to say the least. I feel like if she had picked Shapiro she probably wins somewhat comfortably in November. Especially if she never puts herself in a position where she has answer a question about her past or her plans for the future.

It's probably the worst choice for her chances, right? Does adding him to the ticket entice the moderates or the independents? I don't think so. Those 'lefter' than left are in the bag, though... but they already were. It's just so curious to me.

They are calling him Tampon Tim... SMH[/quote]

There isn't a more self-loathing group of humans on earth than a liberal jew in the U.S. Shapiro sold out God for his own gain, but didn't actually gain anything, then had to promote Walz in his own home state.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1363382][B]There isn't a more self-loathing group of humans on earth than a liberal jew in the U.S. Shapiro sold out God for his own gain, but didn't actually gain anything, then had to promote Walz in his own home state[/B].[/quote]


[B][SIZE="5"]
There it is, , there is the maga we all know!!!!!!!!
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[quote=nonniey;1363377]I think they were hoping (praying) she wouldn't go full bore Progressive if she won, but by picking Walz she is demonstrating she is going to go full bore progressive which for those two (and me) killed our long shot hopes. (Plus for one of them he really liked Kelley - he is our Senator).[/quote]

I liked Kelly I thought he was a good choice but so is this guy

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/4-takeaways-fromtim-walzs-first-campaign-speech-as-kamala-harris-running-mate-003450106.html[/url]


To sit out or vote trump becuase Kelly wasn't picked is acting like a petulant little kid. Arizona needs to keep Kelly if for no other reason then to shut up Kerri Lake!



Why Walz?

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/why-did-harris-pick-walz-180127763.html[/url]

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1363383][B][SIZE="5"]

There it is, , there is the maga we all know!!!!!!!!

[/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]Can someone explain to me why G1 is allowed to continue to be a member. He constantly stalks certain posters, his posts add zero to any disqussion, and often verges on harassment if not just actual harassment and character assaults. I get that he bashes conservatives so therefore he's got more leeway but unlike Chico, for whom a similar case could be made, G1s not a Washington fan and he doesn't contribute much in the sports side of the forum.

In fact, a strong case can be made that any thread that G1 starts posting in is going to die because nobody wants to interact with him.



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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1363385]Can someone explain to me why G1 is allowed to continue to be a member. He constantly stalks certain posters, his posts add zero to any disqussion, and often verges on harassment if not just actual harassment and character assaults. I get that he bashes conservatives so therefore he's got more leeway but unlike Chico, for whom a similar case could be made, G1s not a Washington fan and he doesn't contribute much in the sports side of the forum.

In fact, a strong case can be made that any thread that G1 starts posting in is going to die because nobody wants to interact with him.



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[B] First and Foremost I have always respected the Football forums Giant Fan or Not so let's be clear on that from the start.[/B] As for "bashing conservatives" no, Maga, yes! The three posters I interact with have done 10 times worse to me then I have ever done to them. All MTK has to do is tell me, I will do whatever he says . Stalks is a bit of a stretch , go back to the posts when trump was elected and look at the shitt talking going on by the posters you defend. Then look at their made up BS when Biden went in. I give to that poster what I get from that poster. I will end with this say what you want and that is fine but again I have always respected the Washington Team and Fans on this site's Football forums,always.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1363385]Can someone explain to me why G1 is allowed to continue to be a member. He constantly stalks certain posters, his posts add zero to any disqussion, and often verges on harassment if not just actual harassment and character assaults. I get that he bashes conservatives so therefore he's got more leeway but unlike Chico, for whom a similar case could be made, G1s not a Washington fan and he doesn't contribute much in the sports side of the forum.

In fact, a strong case can be made that any thread that G1 starts posting in is going to die because nobody wants to interact with him.



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[B] First and Foremost I have always respected the Football forums Giant Fan or Not so let's be clear on that from the start.[/B] As for "bashing conservatives" no, Maga, yes! The three posters I interact with have done 10 times worse to me then I have ever done to them. All MTK has to do is tell me, I will do whatever he says . Stalks is a bit of a stretch , go back to the posts when trump was elected and look at the shitt talking going on by the posters you defend. Then look at their made up BS when Biden went in. I give to that poster what I get from that poster. I will end with this say what you want and that is fine but again I have always respected the Washington Team and Fans on this site's Football forums, always.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1363387][B] First and Foremost I have always respected the Football forums Giant Fan or Not so let's be clear on that from the start.[/B] As for "bashing conservatives" no, Maga, yes! The three posters I interact with have done 10 times worse to me then I have ever done to them. All MTK has to do is tell me, I will do whatever he says . Stalks is a bit of a stretch , go back to the posts when trump was elected and look at the shitt talking going on by the posters you defend. Then look at their made up BS when Biden went in. I give to that poster what I get from that poster. I will end with this say what you want and that is fine but again I have always respected the Washington Team and Fans on this site's Football forums, always.[/QUOTE]I really try my hardest not to interact with you but Every thread you start getting involved in dies because you don't know limits and you don't understand back and forth you only understand bashing. You have little if any logical cohesiveness to your arguments and ultimately you just resort to name calling and shutting down the threads.

It makes civil discussion fairly impossible. Are there others who probably could have a similar statement yes. BUT discussions don't come to a screeching halt because of Chico or SD skins or others. They do when you get involved.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1363380]A requirement to be a democrat voter is to a habitual, degenerate liar. If you expect a democrat to be politically honest, you're naive or stupid.[/quote]

not sure your brush could get any more broad

it's especially funny considering who the Republican candidate is and his track record when it comes to honesty

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1363385]Can someone explain to me why G1 is allowed to continue to be a member. He constantly stalks certain posters, his posts add zero to any disqussion, and often verges on harassment if not just actual harassment and character assaults. I get that he bashes conservatives so therefore he's got more leeway but unlike Chico, for whom a similar case could be made, G1s not a Washington fan and he doesn't contribute much in the sports side of the forum.

In fact, a strong case can be made that any thread that G1 starts posting in is going to die because nobody wants to interact with him.



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nobody here has any more leeway than anyone else, maybe best to put him on your ignore list

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1363376]I do not understand how somebody could go from voting for Kamala Harris and then she makes a VP pick that is in line with her views and you switch to Trump. Sitting out I understand, switching to Trump - no because they're two diametrically opposed opponents. In short I don't believe you're too colleagues we're going to vote for Kamala they were probably just saying that but we're going to vote for Trump no matter what. Of course I don't understand how anyone is voting for Trump or Harris at this point so I'm just stuck in the middle with no one to vote for or to represent me.

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I couldn't even start to understand the mindset of someone whose vote is so fluid to go back and forth between polar opposite candidates based on the VP pick. If I knew someone like that personally I'd call BS to their face.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1363388]I really try my hardest not to interact with you but Every thread you start getting involved in dies because you don't know limits and you don't understand back and forth you only understand bashing. You have little if any logical cohesiveness to your arguments and ultimately you just resort to name calling and shutting down the threads.

It makes civil discussion fairly impossible. Are there others who probably could have a similar statement yes. [B] BUT discussions don't come to a screeching halt because of Chico or SD skins or others. [/B] They do when you get involved.

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Yes they do, many don't want to interact with them your assumption is it's me when many a time( I admit not always) it's them that cause a stop in the thread.

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[quote=Giantone;1363374][B]Donald Trump today:

What are the chances that Crooked Joe Biden,[SIZE="5"][/SIZE]
the WORST President in the history of the U.S.,
whose Presidency was Unconstitutionally
STOLEN from him by Kamabla, Barrack
HUSSEIN Obama, Crazy Nancy Pelosi, Shifty
Adam Schiff, Cryin' Chuck Schumer, and others
on the Lunatic Left, CRASHES the Democrat
National Convention and tries to take back the
Nomination, beginning with challenging me to
another DEBATE. He feels that he made a
historically tragic mistake by handing over the
U.S. Presidency, a COUP, to the people in the
World he most hates, and he wants it back,
NOW!![/B]



The man is a mental midget , right chico?![/quote]

Clearly deranged and unfit to lead, but we knew that a long time ago. The Republican Party is going to have to take a long hard look at itself after this election.

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[quote=Giantone;1363386][B] First and Foremost I have always respected the Football forums Giant Fan or Not so let's be clear on that from the start.[/B] As for "bashing conservatives" no, Maga, yes! The three posters I interact with have done 10 times worse to me then I have ever done to them............ I have always respected the Washington Team and Fans on this site's Football forums, always.[/quote]

:laughing2:laughing2:laughing2:laughing2

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1363380]A requirement to be a democrat voter is to a habitual, degenerate liar. If you expect a democrat to be politically honest, you're naive or stupid.[/quote]

Whoa, what the hell SD. I thought we were on civil terms here my guy.

Also that's a huge stretch when the conservative candidate lies every time he opens his mouth.

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[quote=MTK;1363393]Clearly deranged and unfit to lead, but we knew that a long time ago. The Republican Party is going to have to take a long hard look at itself after this election.[/quote]

They need to but won't if they win and it seems Harris (given her VP pick) wants them to win.

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[quote=nonniey;1363397]They need to but won't if they win and it seems Harris (given her VP pick) wants them to win.[/quote]

Do you really think the VP picks moves the needle that much in either direction? I don't personally.

I think the never Trump vote will be even stronger this time around, haven't we all had enough at this point? The guy is just beyond exhausting.

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[YT]Ah4KTtOg_28[/YT]

I think this country needs a midwestern Dad in the White House to help cleanse the Trump timeline

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[quote=MTK;1363399]Do you really think the VP picks moves the needle that much in either direction? I don't personally.

I think the never Trump vote will be even stronger this time around, haven't we all had enough at this point? The guy is just beyond exhausting.[/quote]


IMO , with Biden running trump had it all sewn up. I didn't think Biden dropping out would change anything and I was wrong . Harris has energized the Democrats and all never trumpers . While I wanted Kelly as VP no one has given a good reason Walz is a bad pick? All the trump supporters I know that don't like him but hated Biden are now all turning to Harris. I'm shocked with the stunning turn of events and like you I don't think Walz pick as VP is as bad as Vance, why would Walz sink Harris but Vance can't sink trump???

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[quote=MTK;1363399]Do you really think the VP picks moves the needle that much in either direction? I don't personally.

I think the never Trump vote will be even stronger this time around, haven't we all had enough at this point? The guy is just beyond exhausting.[/quote]

I'll give you that it will likely be even stronger than 2020, but it won't be as strong as it was 1 week ago. Example a week ago I think Harris had a decent chance of taking Georgia and N. Carolina now it's less of a chance.

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She's moved on him like a bitch

[URL="https://www.nj.com/news/2024/08/in-new-marist-poll-harris-makes-astronomical-move-on-trump.html"]In new Marist poll, Harris makes astronomical move on Trump[/URL]

In a new poll released Tuesday night, Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, has taken an enormous lead on former president Donald Trump among independent voters.

Harris is up nine points with that group (53%-44%) after being down 14 points with them when she launched her campaign just two weeks ago.

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[quote=MTK;1363399]Do you really think the VP picks moves the needle that much in either direction? I don't personally.
[/quote]

You're probably right. It should though. The VP matters in the sense that he or she is only one ([I]fill in the blank[/I]) away from being the Commander in Chief.

Granted, it doesn't happen often so that's probably not something everyone is considering.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1363380]A requirement to be a democrat voter is to a habitual, degenerate liar. If you expect a democrat to be politically honest, you're naive or stupid.[/quote]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhKMVlHz9FQ[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1363375]Quite a bit of both Biden's and Harris's support came from people like me who were voting against Trump (which likely made up about 30% of her support) Our votes were very reluctant for her as it was and by picking another progressive (and a populist one at that) it was essentially a slap in the face to independents and the Never Trump/GOP conservatives that made up that group. She basically told us to go pound sand and she doesn't need our votes. In my office alone 2 that would have voted for her if she picked Kelley (especially Kelley), Shapiro or any moderate told me they are now going to vote for Trump and she lost my vote as well (I will sit out). As you posted she's making a move thinking all she needs is her base. She read the audience wrong the anti-Trump vote was more important than her base support and now she will likely lose. Lets see what the polls say in 2 weeks.[/quote]

What is interesting and yes it has only been primaries but democrats have opted to vote out progressives in favor of more moderate candidates over the last few weeks, yet she doubled down on a progressive over a moderate. I can't imagine democrats not voting for her against Trump because of that but we will see, that rejection of progressive policies is not exclusive to moderate democrats.

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[quote=MTK;1363399]Do you really think the VP picks moves the needle that much in either direction? I don't personally.

I think the never Trump vote will be even stronger this time around, [B]haven't we all had enough at this point?[/B] The guy is just beyond exhausting.[/quote]

Allow me to speak for Chico.

No, we haven't had enough. In fact, we want more. We wanna bathe in Trump's bath water so his greatness will wash all over us like an erotic cologne. As soon as I heard he got shot I drove straight to Pennsylvania and offered to suck his ear gently back to health. Just doing what any real patriot would've done. I want him to be my dictator for life. I wanna suckle at the tit of greatness.

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"Mr. President, my kids are relying on handouts from me because they can't pay their rent - what are you gonna do to lower rent for those struggling?"

Trump:
[url]https://x.com/JoshuaPHilll/status/1821310132459884877[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1363389]not sure your brush could get any more broad

it's especially funny considering who the Republican candidate is and his track record when it comes to honesty[/quote]

I was drunk and pissed about the Braves. And they keep piling on. Just in general, not in a very good overall mood about life right now either. That isn't anyone else's problem though. I'm an asshole for that post. My apologies.

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[quote=mooby;1363396]Whoa, what the hell SD. I thought we were on civil terms here my guy.

Also that's a huge stretch when the conservative candidate lies every time he opens his mouth.[/quote]

See my last post. I was taking out life on everyone else. A lesson I already know but can't actually implement on a regular basis: Best to not post anything about politics if other things are pissing you off already.

No excuses. I said it. That's my fault.

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[quote=MTK;1363410]She's moved on him like a bitch

[URL="https://www.nj.com/news/2024/08/in-new-marist-poll-harris-makes-astronomical-move-on-trump.html"]In new Marist poll, Harris makes astronomical move on Trump[/URL]

In a new poll released Tuesday night, Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, has taken an enormous lead on former president Donald Trump among independent voters.

Harris is up nine points with that group (53%-44%) after being down 14 points with them when she launched her campaign just two weeks ago.[/quote]

Your first sentence may have been the best comment I have read here since I joined. Well played MTK. And of course you bring very good news.

As for the VP nobody votes for the VP, they can't win an election. But they sure can pull a candidate down and lose an election. We may be seeing that very thing with the Trump/Vance ticket.

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How are we feeling about not taxing tips?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1363479]How are we feeling about not taxing tips?[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea in theory, reality is it’s probably not

[url]https://www.vox.com/policy/366680/no-tax-on-tips-trump-harris-subminimum-wage[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1363491]Sounds like a good idea in theory, reality is it’s probably not

[url]https://www.vox.com/policy/366680/no-tax-on-tips-trump-harris-subminimum-wage[/url][/quote]

Question , we stop taxing "gratuities then how many CEO's will start "getting gratuities" as pay from their BOD?. Sorry but not in favor of it, just too much room for illegal stuff.

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Tips are income therefore they should be taxed. Pretty simple if you ask me.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363515]Tips are income therefore they should be taxed. Pretty simple if you ask me.[/quote]

I agree but I ask what will Boss's due to control the tips . Many pool the tips and divvy it up later some weekly, some monthly, some keep them. If they aren't tax they won't be reported. I know we are thinking "tips" , like the pizza guy but what about the big stuff? Ever watch "Below Deck"? these guys get 1200 to 2000 gratuities per charter(cash) they can finish with about 20 grand by the end of a Charter season. Will Bonus's be considerd "gratuities"? Sorry I don't like the idea.

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[quote=Giantone;1363516]I agree but I ask what will Boss's due to control the tips . Many pool the tips and divvy it up later some weekly, some monthly, some keep them. If they aren't tax they won't be reported. I know we are thinking "tips" , like the pizza guy but what about the big stuff? Ever watch "Below Deck"? these guys get 1200 to 2000 gratuities per charter(cash) they can finish with about 20 grand by the end of a Charter season. Will Bonus's be considerd "gratuities"? Sorry I don't like the idea.[/quote]

I see the Below Deck tip as no different than the server tip. If it's reported then you have to pay taxes. If it is in cash well I got no problem with the wink wink method of not reporting. I was after all a bartender in the 80's when all the tips were cash and none were reported.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363531]I see the Below Deck tip as no different than the server tip. If it's reported then you have to pay taxes. If it is in cash well I got no problem with the wink wink method of not reporting. I was after all a bartender in the 80's when all the tips were cash and none were reported.[/quote]

I agree, for me it was the 70's and I worked in Hotel Restaurants. I was 17 and busing tables at this really nice Hotel in NJ but we all so did the room service and made a killing.

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In other News trump looking stupid , again.......................


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-medal-gave-billionaire-044816232.html[/url]

[SIZE="6"]Trump Says Medal He Gave Billionaire Donor ‘Much Better’ Than Military Medal of Honor[/SIZE]



[B] Donald Trump said that a civilian Presidential Medal of Freedom is better than the Medal of Honor because soldiers who are recognized are “in very bad shape … or they’re dead.”[/B]

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Total fucking idiot and a national embarrassment, can’t believe this is real life