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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1361714]Cooley was the comparison that immediately came to my mind when I first saw Sinnott. It won't be long before we all love this player.[/quote]

Cooley that can block. Cooley was not a good run blocker.
Sinnott is mentioned in several different publications as a good blocker.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1361736]if what you are saying is true and you maybe correct it is disturbing that the new regime is not competent and failed to pick cooper and guys on forums no more than they do .. if so welcome to another dismal future with this team .... i however believe they know exactly what they are doing and it will show on the field .. but everyone is entitled to their opinions. this is not a jab at you punch more than me questioning there abilities and the whiff on that pick ..[/QUOTE]


Yeah , its cool. Its just conversation. Thats what its all about. GM’s whiff. Guys on forums whiff. Lol. Only time will tell. Those guys went 2 for 1. Nobody knows how it will all unfold.
Im not insinuating that anyone is incompetent.

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[quote=Defensewins;1361738]Cooley that can block. Cooley was not a good run blocker.
Sinnott is mentioned in several different publications as a good blocker.[/quote]

Dude's a beast. He can block, run, catch... don't be surprised if he ends up being the best TE taken this year.

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Trotter Jr still available. Good C, G players out there. Johnny Wilson wr from fsu.

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And the Eagles get Trotter. Good D always falls to the birds.

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They must have liked Magee over Trotter Jr.

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Christian Jones would be a good pick here...

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Overall, I've been pleased with the selections and moves made so far. Would have liked to get more OL but it is what it is. Hopefully they can make it up next years draft.

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Dominique Hampton big and physical. Big hitter that also gets interceptions. Nice.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1361743]They must have liked Magee over Trotter Jr.[/QUOTE]


Yeah like the CB pick the other guy was rated higher. I just wish the picks weren’t going to the eagles in case we are wrong. [emoji58]

Hampton is a good safety and probably the late round secondary pick that peters has been known to hit on. Hopefully. Thought Brade would be the pick because Maryland. There were, again, higher rated S’s but like you keep saying Chief they must like Hampton better.

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Christian Mahogany the G from BC still out there.

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Interesting. Assuming Quan is now a safety full time we have a lot of safeties. With DFo and Percival being drafted by the previous regime I wonder if one of them is heading to the exit. Surprised when they passed on Austin Booker but they have a lot of bodies at DE right now. Wonder if we could get more than a bag of footballs for Phidarian Mathis.

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I was hoping they would take C Jones there, but it's becoming pretty clear that they don't feel as dire about the tackle position as we all do.

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[quote=punch it in;1361749]Christian Mahogany the G from BC still out there.[/quote]

A little surprising but shows again how out of touch with league thinking that the media actually are. Always lots of "highly rated" guys who seem to drop to the lower rounds. Assuming Ron wasn't drafting them of course.

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"Commanders aren’t worrying about needs and simply taking good football players, which is what you do when establishing the foundation of a roster under a new regime."

- Jordan Reid

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On the new guy

[quote]Ben Standig
The Commanders selected Washington safety Dominique Hampton with the 161st pick.

@dpbrugler's No. 9 safety runs a 4.45 40-time. An "impressive size/speed athlete who diagnoses well from the zone and is an explosive striker as a tackler.[/quote]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361753]"Commanders aren’t worrying about needs and simply taking good football players, which is what you do when establishing the foundation of a roster under a new regime."

- Jordan Reid[/quote]

I always thought that is how to do it .. when drafting need you can definitely over draft ! Maybe they do have a plan at tackle possible Trade Allen ? maybe that's why they drafted Newton .. who knows ? Only time will tell .. i'm trying to be optimistic!

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361753]"Commanders aren’t worrying about needs and simply taking good football players, which is what you do when establishing the foundation of a roster under a new regime."

- Jordan Reid[/quote]

They’re not try to win the SB in one offseason, it’s all about a multi year process.

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1361752]A little surprising but shows again how out of touch with league thinking that the media actually are. Always lots of "highly rated" guys who seem to drop to the lower rounds. Assuming Ron wasn't drafting them of course.[/QUOTE]


Surprising he is still there, yes. Could be a good or great value in the 6-7 round though. Hope he is there when we come around again.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1361756]They’re not try to win the SB in one offseason, it’s all about a multi year process.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, if they win the Super Bowl this year I'll win $6,000 from BET MGM so I want them to try this year [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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This thread is pretty funny.

Some scorching hot takes.

Overall, I think they did fine. We'll know in 3 years.

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[quote=rocnrik;1361755]I always thought that is how to do it .. when drafting need you can definitely over draft ! Maybe they do have a plan at tackle possible Trade Allen ? maybe that's why they drafted Newton .. who knows ? Only time will tell .. i'm trying to be optimistic![/quote]

It's refreshing having adults in charge who know what they are doing.

I don't think they'll trade Allen. Payne/Newton/Allen is going to be real tough to deal with on a rotation.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361761]It's refreshing having adults in charge who know what they are doing.

I don't think they'll trade Allen. Payne/Newton/Allen is going to be real tough to deal with on a rotation.[/quote]

I agree they won't unless a good offer comes in, i.e. swap for a top tackle. I'm not sure who would do that, while there will be teams that picked tackles the last 2 days, I'm not sure I see anyone that would definitely be looking to offload a 'spare'.

More likely they're looking at Newton as replacing Allen next year. But if they don't trade immediately and Newton shows starting level talent in camp, do they look to leverage Allen early?

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Our interior offensive lineman are going to improve just by playing our DT’s in camp and practice everyday. It will good for them.

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[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/4/27/24142538/2024-nfl-draft-grades-the-washington-commanders-steals-and-headscratchers-from-day-2[/url]

Good list of all the grades from first two days in one spot.

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Love the Jacksaint signing.

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We got some great college players with a lot of potential. While the OL situation scares me I like they players they picked after watching the highlights of each. Definitely a lot of potential. Reels are reels, I get it, but back when they drafted chase @ #2 I found myself less impress with his "best film package" than I was with some if these players.

Kool aid us getting stronger as the off season progresses lmao.

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people paid to cover football seems to be praising WFT, hopefully it translates to the field.

TE is like cooley, but faster/jumps higher/blocks ;) he played real h-back (only 20 years late for gibbs 2.0). he didn't have the crazy 1,200 yard college season though, but he was playing better competition. I'd be shocked if he wasn't playing significant time pretty early in the season (partially because the other TEs here are old guy ertz and nothing else).

as far as the DT, payne is here 2-3 more years and allen 2 more years on their current contracts. JN is here 4 years. So if the team can't/doesn't want to sign both (or wants to work a trade) they at least have a cheaper option (assuming he can play). Peters did ask DQ if it'd be a problem getting them all playing time and he said no, so the plan is to use them all in some kind of rotation.

They did take an OT... I'd be a bit surprised if he's starting week 1, but his competition is awful :/. I would still be looking for a move at OT if something looks like it's available.

Now it's time to see if the coaches can turn this jumble of players into a team that's significantly better than last year's garbage fire.

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I wonder if they’re going to switch Cosmi and Wylie. Wylie scares me at OT and while Cosmi was a stud at G, the OT situation is sufficiently scary that they’ll need to do something.

As for the draft, I don’t think anyone can know for a few years so all these post-draft grades seems a little silly to me. But I still like that we are getting decent reviews - been a while since that has happened.


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Like everyone else I was a bit disappointed that they were not able to find a legit OT in a draft that was deep at OT. I do not believe Coleman will play at tackle. But this OL did improve already and is not as bad as so many believe. The change at center can not be understated, it's a key position regarding pass pro and they went from bad to really good there. They also went from terrible to OK at LG, even better if Coleman pans out there. Howell also made the OL look far worse than it actually was, we saw what a difference Brissett made when he played.

When they went DT at 36 I was happy to see they were really drafting BPA and this is a really good prospect. Ron would have absolutely reached for a tackle and ended up with another JAG.

Sainristil is the most intriguing pick to me. He is a player no doubt and will be a fan favorite. But boy at that size you better have Darrell Green speed and he does not. I didn't see a lot of tape on Sinnott and people seem to rate this pick highly. But from what I saw I didn't see the athlete his combine numbers suggest, I didn't see quick change of direction when he runs patterns and I question if he can get open in the NFL But clearly those in charge no more than I do so I'll trust their judgement as this was clearly a big need.

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These last 4 posts are solid and demonstrate that sanity and reason are returning to the fan base.

The trackers giving out grades are so much BS and can drive you crazy. What I especially trust in our new management is that they are finding good kids who punch above their stat sheets


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🫣 [url]https://twitter.com/jacklich10/status/1784364722466258957[/url]

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[quote=Meks;1361768]We got some great college players with a lot of potential. While the OL situation scares me I like they players they picked after watching the highlights of each. Definitely a lot of potential. Reels are reels, I get it, but back when they drafted chase @ #2 I found myself less impress with his "best film package" than I was with some if these players.

Kool aid us getting stronger as the off season progresses lmao.[/quote]

Agree 100%. Highlights are Highlights. A lot of potential; only time will tell. However, what gives me optimisim are the talent evaluators we have now. (Peters, DQ, etc) run laps around the past regime.

This can be discussed elsewhere, but Rivera, Mayhew, Hurney drafted a lot of misses, especially in the 1st round. (Young, Davis, Forbes, & then trading up for a LS Cheeseman.)

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We all know that we can look back 4 years and laugh at the grades teams receive right after the draft. That's what makes this so fun, like everything else in sports we really do not know what will happen.

But getting such grades across the board is certainly not a bad thing. And I think we can all agree they have really good decision makers picking the players. So even if all these picks we like don't pan out the future here is very very bright IMO.

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New Owner, Top GM, super bowl head coach, top QB prospect, solid D line , added D help , solid Wr.. added TE .. i'm optimistic !

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[quote=rocnrik;1361784]New Owner, Top GM, super bowl head coach, top QB prospect, solid D line , added D help , solid Wr.. added TE .. i'm optimistic ![/quote]

Spring is Kool Aid season.

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This is pretty wild - tells you what Peters values.

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[quote=Defensewins;1361607]I really like Jer'Zhan Newton. This description suits him well, "He has shock in his mitts to jolt blockers. He mixes up his moves to generate sacks/pressures, routinely employing a violent club/swim and a quick-swipe maneuver. He also incorporates a Houdini-like move where he sticks his hand out and gets OTs to lunge at it before pulling it away and clearing the block."[/quote]

Illinois fan here. Have watched Newton his whole career.

Johnny Newton is possibly my favorite player of all time.

Great kid on and off the field. A super hard worker.

He was literally the highest rated DT by PFF over the last few years. The kid was disruptive on both offense and defense, and there were times he was being triple teamed. only player I've ever seen get triple teamed.

He is a great pass rusher, incredibly fast and athletic (was a RB in high school), and doesnt take plays off.

Easily the best player on the field in every game he played this season. A real stud.

If he stays healthy, and I think he will, Newton is going to be the steal of this draft.

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[quote=skinsnut;1361678]We needed 5 starters out of our 6 round 1-3 picks, we got 1. Here's the positive part. I think we finally got a franchise QB![/quote]

Newton will be a starter for you guys.